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 Posted:   May 15, 2019 - 11:40 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

Nice posts Steve, thanks for that.

My all-time favorite score & one of the most poorly produced (and sounding in most parts) albums there is.
Grateful for what is here, but a shame on album.
The one I'd make a beeline to re-record if I win the lottery.
Hire me John Scott to conduct this mutha....


Sadly at last report the written scores were water damaged and pretty much are lost.

The original masters were erased by the the recording studio and reused for another project.

:-(

 
 
 Posted:   May 16, 2019 - 7:17 AM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

I knew the tapes were erased & reused but...

THE WRITTEN SCORES TOO?????

FFS, I retire. Who wants to buy a score collection....

:-( x 100

 
 
 Posted:   May 16, 2019 - 7:43 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

yeah, fantastic score, I love both of those first two, i need to dust them off and put them on

 
 Posted:   May 16, 2019 - 9:25 AM   
 By:   spook   (Member)

I know I'm venturing into dangerous territory but the 'other' version of this out there (in mono). Where would that have come from then?

 
 Posted:   May 16, 2019 - 10:26 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I knew the tapes were erased & reused but...

THE WRITTEN SCORES TOO?????

FFS, I retire. Who wants to buy a score collection....

:-( x 100


Effin' Oz film industry!

 
 Posted:   May 16, 2019 - 11:09 AM   
 By:   Bus_Punk   (Member)

What about the film stems? Surely something can be done with those and incorporated into the existing album. If today’s technology can isolate the score and sound effects in Psycho, I’m sure a clean up of the best elements available for MM2 is at least feasible.
Trying to maintain a little optimism here wink

 
 
 Posted:   May 16, 2019 - 11:27 AM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

Big problem if there WAS another version in mono its PROBABLY still missing the big set piece, a near 7min. long piece for Max driving the big rig into the compound.
One of the best action setpieces & cues ever IMHO.
Yeah it would probably not been on such a thing....

It exists now....only in my memories....

 
 Posted:   May 16, 2019 - 11:29 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

This is one of the best action scores ever composed. What a shame.

 
 
 Posted:   May 16, 2019 - 12:00 PM   
 By:   Michael_McMahan   (Member)

For anyone interested here's a breakdown of the somewhat confusing and sometimes erroneous
Varese album.

1 Montage/Main Title
Montage - Actually an exciting action cue from near the end of the film after Max has
turned the rig around and heads back in the same direction.
It was called The Chase Continues on the Japanese LP.
Main Title - I presume is what they mean by 'Montage' as it's really the dirge like
main theme presented with 4:3 movietone style images with a recap of the previous film
The prologue if you like?
2 Confrontation
3 Marauders Massacre
As Ive said earlier in the thread this seems to be an edit excising the build up but I've listened to this track in the
film many times and can't really find where or how they made the edit cleanly.
4 Max Enters Compound
5 Gyro Saves max
6 Breakout
7 Finale and Largo
Finale - this is actually 'Largo' which is the Main Title.
Largo - this music is the head on collision between the rig and Humungous' vehicle.
The ending is cut off and edits rather awkwardly into the actual finale.
8 End title - This a repeat of the Montage music which is the end titles as in the film.
9 SFX Suite
Boomerang Attack - Gyro Flight - The Big Rig Starts - Breakout - The Refinery Explodes -
Reprise
After the Boomerang attack sound effect we get two short musical stingers.
The first is as the body of the truck driver falls out as Max opens the door.
The second as the boomerang hits Wez' partner in the skull and Wez return throws.
Gyro Flight, The Big Rig Starts, Breakout and The Refinery Explodes all play
out with sound effects.
Reprise is just a repeat of the Rig/Humongous head on collision/truck roll cue from earlier.

The Japanese LP did resequence and correct a lot of the cue titles but the content remained the same.
Like i said, a bit of a head scratcher?


Thanks for the breakdown Steve. One of my favorite action scores.

 
 Posted:   May 16, 2019 - 12:28 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

We're lucky Varese gave us a North American release at all.

This score is a prime candidate for some kind of Nic Raine/City of Prague Phil standalone or package re-record.

 
 Posted:   May 16, 2019 - 1:19 PM   
 By:   Steve H   (Member)

We're lucky Varese gave us a North American release at all.

Agreed but it's a bit of a mystery in itself.
The Jap LP had different sequencing and presented it as a better cohesive listen. It also included an extra sequence of sfx for Confrontation.
So we're did the original master come from? What was it comprised of?
Where is it now?
Since Varese have never reissued it I figure they no longer have it or the rights either.


This score is a prime candidate for some kind of Nic Raine/City of Prague Phil standalone or package re-record.


That would be great however I'm not so sure if that snarley, raw sound May was able to get out of his orchestra could be replicated. Hopefully.

 
 
 Posted:   May 16, 2019 - 1:52 PM   
 By:   Nono   (Member)

Since Varese have never reissued it I figure they no longer have it or the rights either.

Varèse reissued it very recently on LP :

https://www.varesesarabande.com/products/mad-max-trilogy-the-gray-black-sand-vinyl

 
 Posted:   May 16, 2019 - 2:54 PM   
 By:   Steve H   (Member)

Since Varese have never reissued it I figure they no longer have it or the rights either.

Varèse reissued it very recently on LP :

https://www.varesesarabande.com/products/mad-max-trilogy-the-gray-black-sand-vinyl


Oh, I did not know that. Well they have the master then.
Thanks.

 
 
 Posted:   May 16, 2019 - 3:19 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

The Max LP set...

It's pretty ok, creative graphics, zero notes, minimal credits, postage stamp replications of the original covers within the tri fold package.

Max sounds fine, as does Road Warrior (fine as it can....)
but to my ears Thunderdome lacked the firepower of the Capitol CD & certainly the amazing Tadlow set.

It's been my go to playing 2 out of 3 lately but probably more out of bring suckered back into vinyl than audiophile joy.
For uber-fans only.

I'm guessing that Varese just has the same album master that is always released, like the same film print Warners trots out every few years. I think that's all there is, Peggy Lee....

 
 
 Posted:   May 16, 2019 - 3:35 PM   
 By:   Nono   (Member)

Oh, I did not know that. Well they have the master then.
Thanks.


I've just seen that Silva Screen also issued it on LP last month :

https://www.discogs.com/fr/Brian-May-Mad-Max-2-The-Road-Warrior-Original-Motion-Picture-Soundtrack/release/13484015

https://www.amazon.co.uk/WARRIOR-SPLATTER-VINYL-EXCLUSIVE-LIMITED/dp/B07QLJB5ZY

 
 Posted:   May 16, 2019 - 3:45 PM   
 By:   Steve H   (Member)

I recall hearing the montage music in one of the Missing In Action films. The one that May actually scored. Can't be sure though it's been a long time since I've seen it. Maybe the tapes are with those sessions. But I guess Intrada would have found them when they released thier album.

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2019 - 5:04 PM   
 By:   Steve H   (Member)

I know I'm venturing into dangerous territory but the 'other' version of this out there (in mono). Where would that have come from then?

Good question?

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2019 - 8:20 PM   
 By:   Paul MacLean   (Member)

I recall hearing the montage music in one of the Missing In Action films. The one that May actually scored. Can't be sure though it's been a long time since I've seen it. Maybe the tapes are with those sessions. But I guess Intrada would have found them when they released thier album.

The actual "Montage" cue was tracked into one scene in MIA 2.

I'd hazard a guess a miserly operation like Canon Films would not have spent the time and effort to have May's master tapes shipped over from Australia. They probably just took the track off the Varese LP or cassette.

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2019 - 10:55 PM   
 By:   Steve H   (Member)

I recall hearing the montage music in one of the Missing In Action films. The one that May actually scored. Can't be sure though it's been a long time since I've seen it. Maybe the tapes are with those sessions. But I guess Intrada would have found them when they released thier album.

The actual "Montage" cue was tracked into one scene in MIA 2.

I'd hazard a guess a miserly operation like Canon Films would not have spent the time and effort to have May's master tapes shipped over from Australia. They probably just took the track off the Varese LP or cassette.


That is true.
Unless it was originally temped with The MM2 score.

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2019 - 3:58 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Isn't it about time MAD MAX and MAD MAX 2 had another life on CD?

 
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