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 Posted:   Aug 1, 2018 - 7:51 PM   
 By:   John Webster   (Member)

I've never picked up the score before, so this is an easy buy.

Love the film.

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2018 - 8:00 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

Am I wrong, but I do not believe there are two extra minutes of music added on this new release. MV just said they are not remastering and all agreed the older one sounded fine. OR am I completely wrong in how I read their note?

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2018 - 8:15 PM   
 By:   Zoragoth   (Member)


I confess...I don't remember the ending of Lincoln or whether I liked it specifically or not. But I remember the movie far exceeding my expectations; I really loved it. And I like Schindler's List pretty well, though it's far from the most powerful holocaust film I've seen IMO (but it helps that the score is leagues better than SPR IMO). You know what I think is underrated, despite being a bit clunky and manipulative at times? Amistad. For some reason I manage to like/admire/enjoy it despite its flaws. It can get a bit preachy and heavy handed too but it feels so much more genuine than Saving Private Ryan.

Yavar


As far as SCHINDLER'S LIST, the movie was largely undone by Spielberg's leap for cheap sentiment, where Schindler laments that darn it, he could have been more heroic if he'd just given up his Rolex. Ugh! Even if it happened historically, it was a maudlin scene that ill-served what was at other times a powerful film. I think sometimes Spielberg doesn't trust his audience or the power of his own artistic efforts, and he can't resist telling audiences how they should feel.

Similarly, part of the power of the LINCOLN story is that as we follow this great man in his strategies and responses to fast moving events, we know he is doomed. We don't need to actually see it - such scenes would belong in another movie, not this one. His impending death is the elephant in the room. The film would have retained that power without the tacked on encomium, a rushed depiction of the outcome of the assassination.

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2018 - 8:16 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Am I wrong, but I do not believe there are two extra minutes of music added on this new release. MV just said they are not remastering and all agreed the older one sounded fine. OR am I completely wrong in how I read their note?

You're completely wrong.

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2018 - 8:39 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

Am I wrong, but I do not believe there are two extra minutes of music added on this new release. MV just said they are not remastering and all agreed the older one sounded fine. OR am I completely wrong in how I read their note?

You're completely wrong.


Okay, good to know. Edwin and I misread the note from MV. Thanks!

PS: Just saw the note on FB and I just saw the words BONUS TRACKS. Can't wait for this one!

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2018 - 9:17 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Never seen the film nor heard the score. I'll sample it with an open mind.

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2018 - 9:50 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

Never seen the film nor heard the score.

The fuck...?!

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2018 - 10:19 PM   
 By:   CK   (Member)


-3 bars from "High School teacher" (where the album version repeated a huge portion of track 3)


I never noticed this in the 19 years of owning the OST! wink Now that I'm aware of it, the score will engage me even less!

That said, "Hymn to the Fallen" is one of Williams' all-time great compositions.

Good on LLL for releasing this, and good on (for?) everyone who doesn't have this one yet. Agreed on the cover art, very evocative.

 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2018 - 1:12 AM   
 By:   Tom Guernsey   (Member)

I hate to jump on the “mild disappointment” bandwagon as I’m a huge LLL fan but I’m surprised the opportunity to fix the distortion in the louder parts of Hymn to the Fallen isn’t being taken. The rest of the score sounds fine to me but when the full choir and orchestra hit their stride towards the end of Hymn there’s some definite congestion. Ill get it anyway of course... it’s LLL does JW.

At the risk of really setting the cat amongst the pigeons, I remember thinking when I originally saw the film and heard the score that it was one of the vanishingly small number of times where I’d have swapped a JW score, suggesting that maybe Jerry Goldsmith would have been better suited. I feel he might have dialled back the warmth somewhat and presented a bleaker musical tone (thinking tracks such as Omaha Beach which just feels a touch cosy somehow).

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2018 - 1:20 AM   
 By:   12-Mile Reef   (Member)

DP

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2018 - 1:20 AM   
 By:   12-Mile Reef   (Member)

Basically this was supposed to be a digital and vinyl only release. We convinced UMG to let us do the vinyl, due this Fall, on one condition -- we get to do the CD as well. There is really nothing to add, less than 2 minutes, but it gave us the opportunity to have Mike write the notes and Jim do the artwork to one of the finest films in the past 20 years...to allow us to give this modern classic the deluxe package it deserves. We are honored to be releasing this score and we hope you enjoy its presentation.

Thanks very much for this MV, is the digital release due at the same time as the the CD or will it be released later with the vinyl? I'd be disappointed to miss out on Mike's notes but with the savings on international postage I'd be tempted to go digital, either way thanks for releasing this!

 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2018 - 2:21 AM   
 By:   Jörn   (Member)

Great to hear there will be a vinyl release too.

THANK YOU LALALAND :-).

I wish you would also release a vinyl of your wounderfull E.T. edition too!
It`s an all-time classic and deserves a release on a classic medium!

 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2018 - 4:55 AM   
 By:   afn   (Member)

"Not remastered at all. Mr Williams, Mike Matessino and Neil Bulk all agreed the master was fine as is, so no need to remaster anything."

MV

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Did you get the hidden message? "Mike Matessino and Neil Bulk all agreed the master was fine"... Well, I'm glad Mr. Williams, despite his age, is still as fresh as a daisy!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2018 - 7:12 AM   
 By:   townerbarry   (Member)

Nothing to see or hear folks, move along. Nothing behind that Green Curtain. What is truly exciting ...Aunt May got a new Buick.

 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2018 - 7:23 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Never seen the film nor heard the score.

The fuck...?!



 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2018 - 7:26 AM   
 By:   jedizim   (Member)

Great to hear there will be a vinyl release too.

THANK YOU LALALAND :-).

I wish you would also release a vinyl of your wounderfull E.T. edition too!
It`s an all-time classic and deserves a release on a classic medium!


http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=129803&forumID=1&archive=0

ET Vinyl the same day Saving Private Ryan is out on CD...

 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2018 - 9:28 AM   
 By:   Oscarilbo   (Member)

MV... should we expect the same album presentation, or will tracks be chronological ?
Thanks.

 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2018 - 10:42 AM   
 By:   CCW1970   (Member)

Absolutely love this score and the movie--minus the bookends of course.

Seconded. The bookends are totally unnecessary, and the last one feels cloying. To me, the bookends taint what is otherwise and amazing film. There are scenes in Saving Private Ryan that are among the best he's ever directed.

I heard one story that a set was built at the wrong angle, so the light wasn't what Spielberg planned. Instead of getting angry, or spending money & time correcting it, Spielberg walked away from the set for a bit, and returned with a different shooting plan. The assault was instead shot from Jeremy Davies' character's perspective, where he can only see bits and pieces of the battle from a distance, until he comes up at the very end. The man's a master.

 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2018 - 10:46 AM   
 By:   CCW1970   (Member)

The film is undeniably a technical masterwork but William Goldman's infamous takedown in THE BIG PICTURE is better than the film itself.

http://achtenblog.blogspot.com/2007/08/saving-private-ryan-goldman-essay.html


I love Goldman. But, I remember reading that at the time and thinking, "Jesus, what a negative take. And, what's with focusing so much on the young girl's chest at the beginning? Says more about Goldman's creepiness that it does about the movie."

Goldman's right about the bookends, though.

 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2018 - 10:47 AM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

Bill Goldman’s Saving Private Ryan screed was—and always will be—a sanctimonious pile of horseshit.

“Damon wasn’t on the beach! He couldn’t have seen what happened at Omaha!” Goldman doesn’t understand misdirection? Or that Ryan’s character is—in the end— the audience’s surrogate?

I love the movie, bookends and all.


You loving the movie does not invalidate Goldman's criticisms. Nor does the SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE strawman.

Personally, I don't agree with every single point Goldman makes. He puts an awful lot of critical weight, for instance, on his assumption that Ryan wouldn't just leave immediately to go see his mother once he finds out his brothers are dead. But I think he's right in charging the movie with grinding to a manipulative halt with the way that sequence is handled, as if it's spent the previous two hours trying to tell you that war doesn't make any logical sense only then to pivot for forty minutes and beg you to believe that it does.

 
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