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"I'm telling you, people will be ALL OVER that rerecording when it comes out." Yeah, just like fans of the awful Disney MIGHTY JOE YOUNG ordered our CD of the classic original and then returned it because it wasn't the soundtrack from the CGI version. I don't know....I liked some of the Disney movie and the score. But of course the original is in a class by itself. They're just two different eras..
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"I'm telling you, people will be ALL OVER that rerecording when it comes out." Yeah, just like fans of the awful Disney MIGHTY JOE YOUNG ordered our CD of the classic original and then returned it because it wasn't the soundtrack from the CGI version. Oh, well, as we all know, life isn't always fair. By the by, when shall we be able to purchase this fine, new item?
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"I'm telling you, people will be ALL OVER that rerecording when it comes out." Yeah, just like fans of the awful Disney MIGHTY JOE YOUNG ordered our CD of the classic original and then returned it because it wasn't the soundtrack from the CGI version. Sorry to hear about your Mighty Joe Young CD, but to be honest there is no remake of A&CMF in the works to hurt the sales or confuse the yoots born after 1990. I refuse to believe that this CD release will not be a big seller. I have been collecting MPS for years, since the 60s, and I am so excited about this upcoming release that I keep checking Tribute's website for any news. Seriously, it was the announcement of A&CMF that made me check out their site and other CDs as well. I am not a big fan of Prince and the Pauper, but Mysterious Island and SHE are extremely well done. And after hearing the YouTube version contributed by Mr. Thaxton, I am more eager to buying this CD then anything else at the moment, and that includes the latest monster model kit. MMM, your comments about Baby Boomers not being interested or just plain dead seems so negative to the MPS industry, I am surprised with your reaction. Also, my own kids were exposed to Abbott and Costello films in the last 7 years. They are both 16 and 18 and they love them all. I did not force them to watch, they just made that decision themselves, and have told their friends about them too. Personally, if the films were shown more often on TV like they were during the 70s, I think they would find an audience just like the Three Stooges have and still do today.
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Oct 28, 2009 - 2:39 PM
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Anyone claiming that soundtrack CDs will sell in greater quantities than they actually will -- based on their own experience as a shopper -- is completely anecdotal evidence, unless you happen to be running a soundtrack company and have actual experience in these matters. Of course there are some people who have children who love these movies and would buy 10 copies of any film music CD that came out. But that's cherry-picking the statistics because the fact is there simply aren't enough of them in the marketplace to make such releases automatically profitable. If 70 people who frequent Baby Boomer and film music sites write in and state that they will buy these releases and they have five friends each who will buy these releases, even if all of those people actually buy the releases, that's only 420 copies sold, and I can guarantee you that most of those people WOULDN'T buy the releases. And it should be noted that this sampling is not representative of the population as a whole, because most of the people interested in such recordings are on those web sites. There aren't "vast unknown quantities" of people around the world who will buy them if they are released. There's a reason why labels are releasing classic scores in 1,000-unit quantities, and those released in larger quantities often fail to sell out. And if you think that selling 1,000 copies of a re-recording is going to pay for all your costs, you are living in some imaginary universe. I'm sorry to sound so pessimistic, but there's an obvious reason why few soundtrack labels are doing the classic score re-recordings they did in the past. They simply cost too much, take too much time, and the profits don't support many of those works. Just look at some of the labels who did these in the past and ponder why they aren't doing them any more, or only doing a few from really famous movies or featuring really famous scores? Quite simply, the Boomers are dying off or not spending as much money, and they aren't being replaced by Boomer babies and grandbabies to the extent that the marketplace stops shrinking. The reason those labels who continue to do re-recordings of classic scores do them is because they LOVE the music and feel it's important to document it by having the music restored, performed, and recorded. But the existence of those recordings doesn't mean that it's profitable. There are a million products on the marketplace that have failed -- just seeing them on the shelves having been produced does not mean they turned a profit. That doesn't mean there won't be new re-recordings, from our label and others -- it just means that certain classic score re-recordings are probably going to fail from an economic standpoint. And I have a bad feeling ABBOTT AND COSTELLO MEET FRANKENSTEIN just might be one of them. Had it been done ten years ago, it might have been another story. CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON is one of our worst-selling albums, although I think it happens to be our best. I felt it should have been nominated for a Grammy, I believe it's that good. It has sold very well, but relatively-speaking, compared to our other releases, sales haven't been where everybody assured us they would be. Because every monster movie and monster movie music expert in the world KNEW it would be our best-selling release when we were thinking of recording it, despite the fact that there had been a previous release on another label, because that was a mono version of original tracks and we recorded music featuring themes that had never been released before, composed by different composers, in brilliant stereo sound, and the Creature is the most famous monster of the 1950s, etc., etc. The bottom line is that all the experts who don't work in the soundtrack arena simply aren't experts. They are just fans who love the music and want to believe there are many, many other people like them in the world. I was one of those people before I entered the business. Now I am still somebody who loves the music, but I also realize the reality of the commercial world in which we now live -- a world that has changed immensely in only the last ten years.
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Oct 28, 2009 - 3:25 PM
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CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON is one of our worst-selling albums, although I think it happens to be our best. I felt it should have been nominated for a Grammy, I believe it's that good. It has sold very well, but relatively-speaking, compared to our other releases, sales haven't been where everybody assured us they would be. Because every monster movie and monster movie music expert in the world KNEW it would be our best-selling release when we were thinking of recording it, despite the fact that there had been a previous release on another label, because that was a mono version of original tracks and we recorded music featuring themes that had never been released before, composed by different composers, in brilliant stereo sound, and the Creature is the most famous monster of the 1950s, etc., etc. David, that's probably as good of an example as anyone can give. I too think it is your best album and am shocked it hasn't sold better than some of your others based on some of the factors you listed. Goes to show how hard it can be to predict anything in the entertainment business. I can see that unless you guys are independently wealthy or living off of some very active mineral rights royalties or something, trying to do this would seem very difficult in the long term with the costs associated with it. I'm glad you were able to do what you have done so far and I'm the richer for it, too bad monetarily you aren't! Thanks!
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Great news David...I hope your upcoming projects "challenge the world" ( "from beyond space")
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I'd like to say I cannot wait for your Leith Stevens science fiction scores release but since I will have to wait, I won't.
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Cosmic, man
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Quite simply, the Boomers are dying off or not spending as much money, and they aren't being replaced by Boomer babies and grandbabies to the extent that the marketplace stops shrinking... And I have a bad feeling ABBOTT AND COSTELLO MEET FRANKENSTEIN just might be one of them. Had it been done ten years ago, it might have been another story. Well, I can't say I'm an expert in the selling of these CDs, but I'm a Baby Boomer and dammit I'm still alive and hope to be for the next 40 some years. That should be enough time for Tribute and your company to produce some nice CDs for poor souls, such as I, so we can listen to them on lonely nights while writing pitiful comments such as this one about how I love to listen to old monster movie music, while building old Aurora monster models. I do understand your financial situation, but your company and Tribute are the few that will produce these albums. I wish I could offer hundreds of thousands of dollars to see you continue and market your product, but as you wrote, that is not reality. I can only sit back and hope that one day someone will take the opportunity to fill my bucket wish of CD desires. Enough of this negative bantering. Let's all think positive and hope Tribute releases A&CMF.
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Ya know, not that this changes anything, but I just thought I'd mention that there are a lot of folks over at another website, The Classic Horror Film Board, who also discuss A & C M F, both film AND score, and are praying just as hard as some of us here for that release. Cheers, everybody.
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Ya know, not that this changes anything, but I just thought I'd mention that there are a lot of folks over at another website, The Classic Horror Film Board, who also discuss A & C M F, both film AND score, and are praying just as hard as some of us here for that release. Cheers, everybody. Yes, I know several who also post here or at least look at the FSM board. I wonder how many of the tens of thousands that post over there will buy a copy? Sorry to be this way, but dammit, it's true.
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There are lots of horror/scifi conventions every year and I can imagine that there ought to be at least a decent amount of sales in those events. But David is right....hard copy CD stores are vanishing, and those that remain are struggling.
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