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 Posted:   Mar 29, 2014 - 8:29 PM   
 By:   yonythemoony   (Member)

Ottman did an ok job at reusing John Williams's themes for Superman Returns, but nowhere near as good as Ken Thorne or Alexander Courage did for their Superman movies. At leat they knew how not to mess with perfection unlike these composers today.

A great thing about older movies from the 70, 80s to mid 90s was that those movies which had multiple sequels, all had distinctive main themes and sub themes which were reused and expanded upon in the sequels.

The fact that this X Men series doesn't even utilise a single Main theme which has been memorable or been reused again is frankly proof of how terrible these modern film directors and composers are.

They have no concept of creating a distinctive melody or memorable theme which stands out and which continues in the next installment.

All they do is create a generic, useless score which nobody can remember or even bother to listen to again because they are simply devoid of anything memorable.

It doesn't help that these recent superhero movies seem to have different directors for each sequel, and then these directors hire someone completely different to the original movie's composer, and then create a score without a single connection to the previous one.

Its frankly hilarious.


So Powell's X Men score (which it had a main theme that adapted Williams's Superman ostinato, the main themes for the first two X men scores) is a generic useless score? Give me a break. You can't sound more like an old fart if you try. Now that's generic and useless.

 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2014 - 11:18 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

So Powell's X Men score (which it had a main theme that adapted Williams's Superman ostinato, the main themes for the first two X men scores) is a generic useless score? Give me a break. You can't sound more like an old fart if you try. Now that's generic and useless.

Pretty much. I've tried listening to the Xmen scores and they were mostly just as generic as he said. At least the scores don't drag down the films for all the mediocrity they present. Even Jackman's generic score for the previous film, though pretty generic, worked OK in the film.

 
 Posted:   May 1, 2014 - 8:30 PM   
 By:   David (Giacchino-fan)   (Member)

This pre-order has probably already been posted, but right now it's down to $9.99!

http://www.amazon.com/X-Men-Days-Future-John-Ottman/dp/B00IUA5FC0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1399001266&sr=8-1&keywords=x-men+days+of+future+soundtrack

 
 
 Posted:   May 1, 2014 - 9:03 PM   
 By:   skyy38   (Member)

I love and still have my copies of the two issues of the X-Men that the movie is based on. Can't wait to ,see if the score can be heard over Wolverine slicing and dicing large purple and grey robots.

Loosely based on, from what I've seen.

 
 
 Posted:   May 1, 2014 - 9:08 PM   
 By:   skyy38   (Member)

I actually find FIRST CLASS to be one of the best of the X-MEN films, I love it. And I love Fassbender's performance as Magneto, I couldn't care less about the Irish accent, he owns almost the entire movie. Complaining about his accent in FIRST CLASS is like complaining about Sean Connery's Scottish accent in every role he ever played. It didn't matter, his great performances were what sold each role.

Connery has played the only Scottish-Russian Sub Commander in history!

Actually, it's not the same. He's playing a character that was born German, not Irish. It's only different if Connery is playing a Canadian but has a Scottish accent; or if he plays an Irish character with a Scottish accent, and etc., so unless the decent of the character Connery plays is established and he still goes for the Scottish accent, it can be Scottish.

Now, according to information online, Fassbender is German-Irish. Could it really be that hard for him, as an actor, to drop the Irish for Magneto?

 
 
 Posted:   May 1, 2014 - 9:11 PM   
 By:   skyy38   (Member)

I just hope someone told Fassbender this time that Magneto is not supposed to have an irish accent!
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I'm sure they will... Right after they tell Ian Mckellen that Magento isn't supposed to have a British accent. Neither is Professor Xavier for that matter. Not to mention that Wolverine should have a Canadian accent...and be quite short.

Just sayin'.


What's a "Canadian Accent"-Bob and Doug McKenzie?

 
 Posted:   May 1, 2014 - 11:54 PM   
 By:   Stefancos   (Member)


Actually, it's not the same. He's playing a character that was born German, not Irish.


Fassbender totally neglected Ian McKellen's fine German accent from the first three films yes...

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2014 - 12:08 AM   
 By:   Stefancos   (Member)

So it is a sequel to X-MEN FIRST CLASS but it picks up after X-MEN: THE LAST STAND and it follows directly after THE WOLVERINE...

The problem with this franchise when it comes to continuity is that Fox seems to have changed it's mind about what direction to go in several times.

After X-Men 3 they were planning to put out a range of Origin films. However the first one, while making a decent amount of money, was panned by critics and fans alike.
So they went in a different direction and did a sort of prequel, which was in some ways a reboot, but not in others.

Both these films had continuity issues when compared to the first 3 films. (a different Sabre-tooth, Xavier being crippled early etc etc).
Then comes The Wolverine, which plays largely as an independent story, but does have Logan remembering experiences from WWII, even though he is supposed to have amnesia. (the only slight niggle in an otherwise fine film)

So now Brian Singer comes back to the franchise, bringing his usual cast, meaning First Class is no longer as much as a reboot as was previously planned, leading to it all being a bit of a mess.

I thought Fassbender made a strong Magneto, though his silent brooding was a far cry from McKellen's more theatrical villain.
Going to be interesting seeing both play the same character in one film. I hope some of McKellen's mischievous-ness will seep through in Fassbenders Magneto.

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2014 - 12:21 AM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

There´s no doubt that the franchise was zig-zagging in many directions after the third film. But, so far, it seems as if the story worked all those strands into one narrative again. Which is absolutely fine with me.

And to have the older incarnations differ from the young ones - what is wrong with that? People change, develop different traits. As long as the films keep on telling how and why, it´s perfectly okay, isn´t it?

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2014 - 3:32 AM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

Fassbender has said in interviews that for this film he emulated McKellen's speech, which was not deemed important in the previous film since McKellen wasn't in it!

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2014 - 5:28 AM   
 By:   Scott M (Oldsmith)   (Member)

Not to mention that Wolverine should have a Canadian accent...and be quite short.

What's a "Canadian Accent"-Bob and Doug McKenzie?


Different word pronunciation. "Mooth" for "mouth" for example. Depends on the region, but there there is a difference. Like British actors who adopt an "American" accent, even though - like everywhere else - it will vary (or in this case, an Aussie). Something middle of the road and recognizable.

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2014 - 11:52 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

ok... time to cut all this crap that has nothing to do here anyway and focus on far more important things that all this accent bs that should be in non-film score discussion anyway if anywhere at all...


 
 
 Posted:   May 2, 2014 - 4:18 PM   
 By:   captain_avis   (Member)

Is that really the final film poster artwork? It's dreadful... looks like something a fan whipped up in photoshop.

Chris

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2014 - 4:51 PM   
 By:   David (Giacchino-fan)   (Member)

It's the CD cover. Funny, I thought it looked better than the very bland last few X-Men score covers (Wolverine, First Class, Origins and so). I originally suspected it was fan-made or the European cover (which seems to always get the best of the 2 choices), but no, it's on Amazon's page.

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2014 - 5:10 PM   
 By:   johnmullin   (Member)

I'm really excited to hear Ottman revisit this material. I'm a little surprised to read through this thread and see that people spent much of the first part of it bagging on what Ottman did for X2. I thought it was a great score at the time, and I still like the movie too.

 
 Posted:   May 3, 2014 - 3:33 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

They had a recording session for this score THE DAY of the print master for your information. That is UNHEARD of. The print master is the FINAL day of doing anything to the movie as after that, they make the copies from that for all the theaters and NOTHING can be changed to the print.

A scoring session on that day is beyond strange. I wonder what that means. I know at least one cue is going to be REALLY awesome!

 
 Posted:   May 3, 2014 - 4:48 PM   
 By:   Erik Woods   (Member)

Different word pronunciation. "Mooth" for "mouth" for example.

I've never heard any Canadian mispronounce "mouth" like that. By the way, there isn't ONE Canadian accent just like there isn't ONE British accent or ONE American accent. People from Saskatchewan sound different than people from Newfoundland. Hell, people only 40 minutes south of where I live have a bit more of a Western New York accent then... well, what ever I sound like here in the Golden Horseshoe.

-Erik-

 
 
 Posted:   May 10, 2014 - 4:11 PM   
 By:   ShadowStar   (Member)

X2 had a great, memorable score in my opinion, and its main theme was a real standout. I'm glad John Ottman is back for this one and I've hope he's done as good a job this time around, if not better!

 
 Posted:   May 12, 2014 - 1:52 AM   
 By:   batman&robin   (Member)

Is that really the final film poster artwork? It's dreadful...

I love it!! (both this design and Ottman's music in general). Can't wait to get this album!!

 
 Posted:   May 12, 2014 - 2:37 AM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

I love the cover, very very colorful and cool smile

 
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