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 Posted:   May 1, 2013 - 6:54 PM   
 By:   JJH   (Member)

First, I am pretty sure that JJ wouldn't be allowed to use the "lens flares" nonsense. It doesn't "fit" in with all of the rest of the Star Wars movies.



I'm agreeing with you in regards to my annoyance level with the lens flares.

but lens flares are not unheard of in Star Wars.

Hate to make you do this, but the 3-way lightsaber fight in that giant room in Phantom Menace was all about lens flare, it seemed.

 
 
 Posted:   May 1, 2013 - 7:42 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

[I'm agreeing with you in regards to my annoyance level with the lens flares.
but lens flares are not unheard of in Star Wars.
Hate to make you do this, but the 3-way lightsaber fight in that giant room in Phantom Menace was all about lens flare, it seemed.



Wasn't there a HUGE lensflare in "A New Hope" just after Solo picks off Vader and the oncoming Falcon fills the screen?
If I'm remembering it correctly, it looked pretty cool.

 
 
 Posted:   May 2, 2013 - 10:40 AM   
 By:   musicpaladin2007   (Member)

[I'm agreeing with you in regards to my annoyance level with the lens flares.
but lens flares are not unheard of in Star Wars.
Hate to make you do this, but the 3-way lightsaber fight in that giant room in Phantom Menace was all about lens flare, it seemed.



Wasn't there a HUGE lensflare in "A New Hope" just after Solo picks off Vader and the oncoming Falcon fills the screen?
If I'm remembering it correctly, it looked pretty cool.


There is nothing wrong with lensflare when used artfully. JJ goes overboard and is like YAY LENSFLAREEEEEEEEEEEESS EVERYWHERE!!!!!!!! Much different.

 
 
 Posted:   May 2, 2013 - 10:44 AM   
 By:   musicpaladin2007   (Member)

Well said, Adam S.

I can understand some on this board unwilling to take that leap and make the assumption that Abrams is being overruled on choice of composer, but, nonetheless, it is still a reasonable assumption. And it doesn't need to bring with it the implication that Abrams is angry or upset about this, or that he doesn't care for working with Williams.

I'm glad that it is looking like Williams is revisiting the Star Wars universe. I don't think that Giacchino has what it takes to bring anything exciting to this franchise. Well, let me clarify that. I think that Giacchino's music for Star Wars might work sufficiently within the film, but as a standalone experience?... not so much.


I dont know, I'm kind of waiting to hear his Into Darkness score. The small snippets I've heard so far suggest that he might be taking a more mature approach to this one than the 2009 movie (just especially considering the tone of this one), so I'm encouraged that he might actually be up to the task. I'll reserve judgement until the score & film is released though.

 
 
 Posted:   May 2, 2013 - 1:18 PM   
 By:   Sabreman   (Member)

Oh, for crying out loud (as someone from a certain SF franchise would say). We've now got sites on teh interweb reporting it as fact that Williams is scoring episode 7:

http://www.classicfm.com/composers/williams/news/jj-abrams-john-williams-will-score-new-star-wars/

That's the trouble with teh interweb. Someone will say something (perhaps as a joke or perhaps as speculation) and then various websites will report what that person said as fact. Remember a few months ago when Abrams was asked if he'd be directing episode 7 and he said that he wouldn't? Websites all over the shop reported that as fact, and now of course we know that what Abrams said wasn't true.

 
 
 Posted:   May 2, 2013 - 1:20 PM   
 By:   Dan Hobgood   (Member)

I for one would be a lot more excited if Mel Brooks and John Morris were reuniting to make Spaceballs 2: The Search For More Money. (Sure seems like an opportune time!)

Dan

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2013 - 2:35 PM   
 By:   Mike_H   (Member)

Williams mentions it around 1:33

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jg1mUEDPOo&feature=player_embedded

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2013 - 3:19 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

Ah yes, I knew I forgot to post this somewhere

Kaya Savas: "So I have to ask, are you coming back for number 7, Star Wars, has JJ talked to you?"

John Williams: "I certainly plan to, and fully expect I'll be there and to be able to do it."


@ 1:33

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2013 - 10:10 PM   
 By:   ChristianKühn   (Member)

Vot. big grin

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2013 - 2:06 AM   
 By:   Talos   (Member)

They should hire Frederic Talgorn... now THAT would be really sensational.

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2013 - 4:57 AM   
 By:   Luc Van der Eeken   (Member)

Ah yes, I knew I forgot to post this somewhere

Kaya Savas: "So I have to ask, are you coming back for number 7, Star Wars, has JJ talked to you?"

John Williams: "I certainly plan to, and fully expect I'll be there, and that we'll do it."

@ 1:33



Always was and always will be a class act.

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2013 - 11:07 AM   
 By:   eggerty31   (Member)

Common sense does sometimes still rear it's head in Hollywood.
Star Wars really wouldn't be Star Wars without Williams.

Now..... how about some proper releases of the Prequel trilogy and a decently mastered Original trilogy?

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2013 - 11:25 AM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

A few things, and then I'll shut up. (Not likely.).... Stravinsky continued to compose into his mid-80s, Virgin Thomson into his late-80s, and Elliott Carter published 40 works between the ages of 90 and 100!

Just to correct the record, it's "Virgil" Thomson - though I love the switch, wish I'd thought of that.

But what a great point! Many people (well, of the people who listen to Carter) find Elliott Carter's later works among his most exciting and enjoyable.

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2013 - 11:40 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Ha! What kind of Freudian slip was that?

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2013 - 11:59 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Just to correct the record, it's "Virgil" Thomson - though I love the switch, wish I'd thought of that.
But what a great point! Many people (well, of the people who listen to Carter) find Elliott Carter's later works among his most exciting and enjoyable.



Sean, I love your avatar pic. The Blish books were like gold to me.
smile

 
 Posted:   May 22, 2013 - 2:43 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

Thanks, Octoberman - right you are, James Blish was the man!

 
 Posted:   May 22, 2013 - 6:37 PM   
 By:   yonythemoony   (Member)

There is also the possibility that this could be a Harry Potter 2 situation with Williams writing the themes and Giacchino taking the William Ross role of arranging and filling in the gaps.

Except, that Williams wrote most of the music of Chamber Of Secrets which it was conducted and recorded by Ross, and with some re-recorded cues from the first one.

Anyway, the last non-Spielberg/Star Wars related director who Williams worked with was Alfonso Cuaron, and that was almost 10 years ago. Notice how he couldn't work with Yates in Deathly Hallows because of Tintin and War Horse. If he manages to score Episode VII, it will be because of Star Wars.

 
 Posted:   May 24, 2013 - 2:31 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

Well if this isn't basically 100% confirmation that it's going to happen unless a change in health or something else happens between now and late 2014, I dunno what is!

From a Zap2It article published today:




As for another hugely popular franchise he's linked to, Williams -- whose legendary catalog of film scores also ranges from "Jaws" and "Raiders of the Lost Ark" to "Schindler's List" and "Saving Private Ryan" -- is game to give "Star Wars" its musical sound again when "Episode VII" goes into production for a planned 2015 release.
 
"We've certainly talked about that, and I'm happy and willing to do it," he confirms. "J.J. Abrams, who will be the director, seems excited about the idea. I have to say that J.J. is a much younger man than I, but I will try to keep up with him as much as I can!"
 
The imminent birth of a new "Star Wars" iteration intrigues Williams in general. "We now have the benefit of all this computer simulation and technical work that wasn't even possible 20 or 25 years ago," he reasons.
 
"I don't know how hands-on George Lucas will be -- I suspect he will be to some degree -- but I can only imagine how excited he must be, to have a director like J.J. have all these tools at his fingertips to produce something even more adventurous technologically. I can't wait to see what he will do with it."

http://blog.zap2it.com/pop2it/2013/05/man-of-steel-will-be-hard-for-me-to-see-says-superman-composer-john-williams.html





Wow!

 
 Posted:   May 24, 2013 - 2:37 PM   
 By:   EvilDead   (Member)

Yeah, that pretty much ends all speculations. Williams is back!

 
 
 Posted:   May 24, 2013 - 5:02 PM   
 By:   Adam S   (Member)

This is exciting! I think I'm most excited about the idea of a different director. I guess it took a Star Wars film for it to happen. I've been kind of bummed about Williams relegating himself to only Spielberg films. There's a kind of Spielberg voice, even with all the variety of films, that lends a familiarity to the music as well. I love the idea of connecting to the rich tradition of the Star Wars universe but with a director who will bring his own approach and, hopefully, an approach grounded in more emotion and gravitas than the prequels. That could lead to some very exciting scores.

- Adam

 
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