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 Posted:   Oct 14, 2013 - 6:42 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

.....I agree with your comments David. You know, it always struck me odd that UA records would issue a soundtrack LP to God's Little Acre and neglect The Magnificent Seven! Of course I was happy to get any Elmer LPs, including God's Little Acre.....


I'm confused here. Bernstein's 1958 score of GOD'S LITTLE ACRE wasn't released on UA records. It was released on Imperial Records, later absorbed into Liberty Records, who in turn merged into United Artists Records in 1970. So, GOD'S LITTLE ACRE's score didn't have anything to do with UA Records in 1958, only the film was released by United Artists pictures at that time.

Isn't the MAGNIFICENT SEVEN/RETURN OF THE SEVEN score on United Artists/Sunset Records really a re-recording, not the soundtrack???

It is extremely likely that Warners Records realized that THE MIRACLE film was going to be a real turkey, so why bother with issuing a score that they couldn't sell. Try to remember that in those days the score was primarily released to promote the film, not the composer---and the quality of the score was rarely considered as a selling point by record companies of the day. Since it was recorded in the US, it was also likely a very expensive proposition with the re-use fees.

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2013 - 6:55 PM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

.....I agree with your comments David. You know, it always struck me odd that UA records would issue a soundtrack LP to God's Little Acre and neglect The Magnificent Seven! Of course I was happy to get any Elmer LPs, including God's Little Acre.....


I'm confused here. Bernstein's 1958 score of GOD'S LITTLE ACRE wasn't released on UA records. It was released on Imperial Records, later absorbed into Liberty Records, who in turn merged into United Artists Records in 1970. So, GOD'S LITTLE ACRE's score didn't have anything to do with UA Records in 1958, only the film was released by United Artists pictures at that time.


Interesting. In Tony Thomas' first edition of "Music for the Movies" he includes a "film music on records" listing, by composer, in the back of the book. For GOD'S LITTLE ACRE, he lists the LP release as "United Artists UAL 40002," which is my recollection as well. Not to be disagreeable, but I was just wondering what your information source is for the Imperial Records release. MEN IN WAR is the only Imperial release of a Bernstein score of which I am aware...

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2013 - 7:37 PM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

Interesting. In Tony Thomas' first edition of "Music for the Movies" he includes a "film music on records" listing, by composer, in the back of the book. For GOD'S LITTLE ACRE, he lists the LP release as "United Artists UAL 40002," which is my recollection as well.

Yes, GOD'S LITTLE ACRE was released on United Artists 40002:

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=24423&forumID=1&archive=1

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2013 - 7:41 PM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

Isn't the MAGNIFICENT SEVEN/RETURN OF THE SEVEN score on United Artists/Sunset Records really a re-recording, not the soundtrack???.

It was a belated re-recording.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2013 - 7:50 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

.....I agree with your comments David. You know, it always struck me odd that UA records would issue a soundtrack LP to God's Little Acre and neglect The Magnificent Seven! Of course I was happy to get any Elmer LPs, including God's Little Acre.....


I'm confused here. Bernstein's 1958 score of GOD'S LITTLE ACRE wasn't released on UA records. It was released on Imperial Records, later absorbed into Liberty Records, who in turn merged into United Artists Records in 1970. So, GOD'S LITTLE ACRE's score didn't have anything to do with UA Records in 1958, only the film was released by United Artists pictures at that time.

Isn't the MAGNIFICENT SEVEN/RETURN OF THE SEVEN score on United Artists/Sunset Records really a re-recording, not the soundtrack???

It is extremely likely that Warners Records realized that THE MIRACLE film was going to be a real turkey, so why bother with issuing a score that they couldn't sell. Try to remember that in those days the score was primarily released to promote the film, not the composer---and the quality of the score was rarely considered as a selling point by record companies of the day. Since it was recorded in the US, it was also likely a very expensive proposition with the re-use fees.



Hi Manderley, don't confuse me any more than I already am! smile

I have the God's Little Acre LP in front of me, sure is a UA LP. I got it in the mid 60s. Wow! Tina Louise looks really HOT! razz

The Return of the seven/magnificent seven LP 1966 was a rerecording with a smaller sounding orchestra. So I guess a Magnificent Seven LP was 6 years late!

In jan. 1970 I was in the Navy in Japan. I got the "original motion picture soundtrack" LP to Guns of the Magnificent Seven. It was a re-packaging of Mag 7/Return 7 LP!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2013 - 1:31 AM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

You guys are all TOO SMART, and you're all TOO CORRECT! smile

You're no fun to play with at all!!! smile

I'm going to tell my mommie you're all bullies! smile

MEN IN WAR was on Imperial, and GOD'S LITTLE ACRE was on UA Records, no doubt about it!

Funny thing is, before I made that post, I looked at it quite awhile after I'd typed it and kept thinking something was wrong. It didn't dawn on me exactly what it was, and I finally clicked the button to post it.

Senior moment, no doubt! smile

The covers don't look alike, the material is wildly different---it must be something else going way back which connects the two recordings in my mind. Oh, well.....

Just wait 'til YOU get to be 73 and you confuse Hans Zimmer with Hans Salter! Then I'll laugh! smile



 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2013 - 8:13 AM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

Just wait 'til YOU get to be 73 and you confuse Hans Zimmer with Hans Salter! Then I'll laugh! smile

LOL! I'm a decade behind you.

As long as you don't start a thread titled "The problem with the Salter haters..." you're OK.

 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2013 - 8:17 AM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

You guys are all TOO SMART, and you're all TOO CORRECT! smile

You're no fun to play with at all!!! smile

I'm going to tell my mommie you're all bullies! smile

MEN IN WAR was on Imperial, and GOD'S LITTLE ACRE was on UA Records, no doubt about it!

Funny thing is, before I made that post, I looked at it quite awhile after I'd typed it and kept thinking something was wrong. It didn't dawn on me exactly what it was, and I finally clicked the button to post it.

Senior moment, no doubt! smile

The covers don't look alike, the material is wildly different---it must be something else going way back which connects the two recordings in my mind. Oh, well.....


It's that catchy little song at the beginning:

"I'm gonna tell ya 'bout Men in Wa-ar...."

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2013 - 8:36 AM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)


many labels were releasing based on cost of reuse fees.

John Paul Jones was recorded in London to begin with and the rerecording was also done there.

The Nuns Story was originally recorded all in rome because of the musicians strike,

when everyone was called back home, the director took whole chunks of music out.
Jack Warner had them all returned, plaus had MORE music written and at least half of the score recored in Rome, was rerecorded with the superior Warners Orchestra.

According to the booklet for theMiracle, the orchestra was arounde 80 pieces, unusually large for a Hollywood soundtrack. the reuse fees would have been too high.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2013 - 9:25 AM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

You guys are all TOO SMART, and you're all TOO CORRECT! smile

You're no fun to play with at all!!! smile

I'm going to tell my mommie you're all bullies! smile

MEN IN WAR was on Imperial, and GOD'S LITTLE ACRE was on UA Records, no doubt about it!

Funny thing is, before I made that post, I looked at it quite awhile after I'd typed it and kept thinking something was wrong. It didn't dawn on me exactly what it was, and I finally clicked the button to post it.

Senior moment, no doubt! smile

The covers don't look alike, the material is wildly different---it must be something else going way back which connects the two recordings in my mind. Oh, well.....

Just wait 'til YOU get to be 73 and you confuse Hans Zimmer with Hans Salter! Then I'll laugh! smile




Who is Hans Zimmer? smile

 
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