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 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 5:58 AM   
 By:   GreatGonzo   (Member)


I'll tell you one thing -- Herrmann is the one composer I would KILL to do a release of. Literally KILL. Perhaps one day.
MV



Hmmm ... sounds like an Obsession, really ... hmmm ...

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 6:09 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

god would you just give it a rest already. LLL just released True Grit and Intrada The Miracle, but no, you're never satisfied. You Golden Agers have a label in Kritzerland that caters to your tastes more often than not so quit acting like you're being left out in the cold.

So your good idea is to act the exact same way as the person you're chiding...?

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 6:17 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

And the way to address that is to post pictures like YOR?

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 6:53 AM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

It´s a pretty good picture.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 1:35 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

god would you just give it a rest already. LLL just released True Grit and Intrada The Miracle, but no, you're never satisfied. You Golden Agers have a label in Kritzerland that caters to your tastes more often than not so quit acting like you're being left out in the cold.

Yeah well, in the past whenever there's been a lot of 50's and 60's titles released one after the other a lot of the eighties (and beyond) score fans have made the same sort of complaints.


Best way I've found is to like scores from the 'Golden Age' and from the 80s too...




For every one golden age cd issued there are probably 20 or 30 cds issued from the 70s on up ............ I'm just saying ....... smile

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 2:41 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

I'm on your side PFK. Tell them what you think of pushing Dimitri Tiomkin into 2014. I also remember MV's earlier posts.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 3:55 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)



For every one golden age cd issued there are probably 20 or 30 cds issued from the 70s on up ............ I'm just saying ....... smile


And how many scores from the 70s on up SURVIVE compared to 'Golden Age' scores?

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 4:43 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

Lalaland was the first to open the Paramount vault with AIPRPLANE. They then went after only a few famous golden age titles. Shane, which is magnificent, probably didn't sell as well as they had hoped. So for the most part they took their eyes off golden age titles and went for 80's and more resent scores. In the meantime our friends at Intrada , Kritzerland, and Quartet went after the good stuff,scores from the 50's and '60's at Paramount and 20CF and got them. So like MV says there isn't much left for them even if they wanted to do them, which I don't think their heart is in anyway. I haven't purchase anything from Varese since THE RED PONY. That's how I see it.

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 4:49 PM   
 By:   Senn555   (Member)

And the way to address that is to post pictures like YOR?

The picture response in this thread is akin to keying your own car.

Do we really need to put up with this? I'm fine if LeHah has his little fandom thing but does he really need to rub it in everyone's face?

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 5:30 PM   
 By:   SBD   (Member)

Compliment to SALEM's LOT, hmmm?

I'm guessing Fiedel's FRIGHT NIGHT. Right?

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 8:51 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)



For every one golden age cd issued there are probably 20 or 30 cds issued from the 70s on up ............ I'm just saying ....... smile


And how many scores from the 70s on up SURVIVE compared to 'Golden Age' scores?




I seem to get the impression there are quite a few golden age scores that still survive from WB, MGM, Fox and Paramount that have not been released. Of course they may not sell as well as scores from the 70s on up. Maybe LLL does not want to deal with cds that sell 1,000 copies, I don't know.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 8:59 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

Lalaland was the first to open the Paramount vault with AIPRPLANE. They then went after only a few famous golden age titles. Shane, which is magnificent, probably didn't sell as well as they had hoped. So for the most part they took their eyes off golden age titles and went for 80's and more resent scores. In the meantime our friends at Intrada , Kritzerland, and Quartet went after the good stuff,scores from the 50's and '60's at Paramount and 20CF and got them. So like MV says there isn't much left for them even if they wanted to do them, which I don't think their heart is in anyway. I haven't purchase anything from Varese since THE RED PONY. That's how I see it.



I agree with your comments Cody.

I find it hard to believe what LLL says: "All the good stuff (golden age) is now under contract to other labels." Like, there are only a dozen golden age scores left in the vaults?

There must be a ton of Max Steiner at Warner Bros. to be issued on future cds!

There must be a large amount of Victor Young at Paramount yet to be done!

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 9:43 PM   
 By:   La La Land Records   (Member)

Guys,

There are plenty of other great labels out there to release some of the Golden Age titles. I would rather Bruce release a Victor Young and he would rather us release a Jablonsky. Doug and Roger are more apt to release a Mancini while we would prefer an Elfman. Every so often we do a Golden Oldie and Kritzerland explores the 90's. Nothing is set in stone. A DAY OF THE DEAD will always outsell a CERTAIN SMILE...not because its a better score, it's because those with a disposable income and deep love of the film will snatch it up in a heart beep. And, as cold as it sounds, those folks are still alive, while a lot of older collectors are no longer with us. Musical tastes change with each generation. There are some old souls out there, but they are few. If I had boatloads of cash I would release 20 scores a week from every age until there was nothing to release regardless if they sold or not. I love it all (well, most of it), but I have to be fiscally responsible for my company, my employees and my family.

We are working on some great Golden Age scores currently...one will be one of our BLACK FRIDAY titles. 2014 will see some great titles from us that aren't just from the 70's, 80's, 90's and today. I adore Tiomkin, Herrmann, Waxman, and Korngold. However, Newman, North, Steiner and Rozsa are hit and miss for me. I find them either brilliant or bland. It stands to reason that some of their works are bland simply because they scored so many damn pics back in the day! Just because it's old doesn't mean it's good. You guys think Horner rips himself off all the time? Have you heard more than 10 Rozsa scores? lol! Then there are some unsung heroes like Salter, Skinner, and Stothart who barely have anything out there. Then again, most of their works are most likely lost to the ages.

Matt and I do this job 24/7. This is all there is (we gave up the gigolo job when we hit our mid 30's). This isn't a hobby for us nor is it a part time gig. It's this or nothing. At the end of the day we run a business. We have a much larger overhead than most labels, so we need to make sure we release stuff that sells more than 1000 units. Sorry if you don't like the answer, but its the cold hard truth. smile

MV

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 10:03 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

Guys,

There are plenty of other great labels out there to release some of the Golden Age titles. I would rather Bruce release a Victor Young and he would rather us release a Jablonsky. Doug and Roger are more apt to release a Mancini while we would prefer an Elfman. Every so often we do a Golden Oldie and Kritzerland explores the 90's. Nothing is set in stone. A DAY OF THE DEAD will always outsell a CERTAIN SMILE...not because its a better score, it's because those with a disposable income and deep love of the film will snatch it up in a heart beep. And, as cold as it sounds, those folks are still alive, while a lot of older collectors are no longer with us. Musical tastes change with each generation. There are some old souls out there, but they are few. If I had boatloads of cash I would release 20 scores a week from every age until there was nothing to release regardless if they sold or not. I love it all (well, most of it), but I have to be fiscally responsible for my company, my employees and my family.

We are working on some great Golden Age scores currently...one will be one of our BLACK FRIDAY titles. 2014 will see some great titles from us that aren't just from the 70's, 80's, 90's and today. I adore Tiomkin, Herrmann, Waxman, and Korngold. However, Newman, North, Steiner and Rozsa are hit and miss for me. I find them either brilliant or bland. It stands to reason that some of their works are bland simply because they scored so many damn pics back in the day! Just because it's old doesn't mean it's good. You guys think Horner rips himself off all the time? Have you heard more than 10 Rozsa scores? lol! Then there are some unsung heroes like Salter, Skinner, and Stothart who barely have anything out there. Then again, most of their works are most likely lost to the ages.

Matt and I do this job 24/7. This is all there is (we gave up the gigolo job when we hit our mid 30's). This isn't a hobby for us nor is it a part time gig. It's this or nothing. At the end of the day we run a business. We have a much larger overhead than most labels, so we need to make sure we release stuff that sells more than 1000 units. Sorry if you don't like the answer, but its the cold hard truth. smile

MV




Thanks for taking the time for a reply MV. And thanks for the amazing SHANE cd and for planning some more golden age cds for the future. smile

By the way, I never meet a Max Steiner score I didn't like! smile

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 10:46 PM   
 By:   Loren   (Member)

... However, Newman, North, Steiner and Rozsa are hit and miss for me. I find them either brilliant or bland. It stands to reason that some of their works are bland simply because they scored so many damn pics back in the day! Just because it's old doesn't mean it's good. You guys think Horner rips himself off all the time? Have you heard more than 10 Rozsa scores?

I have heard more than 100 Rozsa scores and I'll tell you couldn't agree more!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 11:05 PM   
 By:   peterproud   (Member)

Just curious, will the Oct 22 release be announced before then....I can't keep track of the way the various labels announce and release confused

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 11:59 PM   
 By:   shicorp   (Member)


Come to think of it, there's plenty of unreleased Herrmann at Universal: "Cape Fear", "Marnie", "Companions In Nightmare", "The Virginian", "Convoy"...


The Trouble With Harry
The Man Who Knew Too Much
Psycho

Originally Paramount, but Universal these days...

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2013 - 6:29 AM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

I thank you MV for a very honest reply. It is a business and a business goes where the money is.

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2013 - 1:31 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

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There must be a ton of Max Steiner at Warner Bros. to be issued on future cds!

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Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
brm

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2013 - 1:39 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

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There must be a ton of Max Steiner at Warner Bros. to be issued on future cds!

!



Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
brm




Ah But Mr. Marshall, you DON'T have to buy them! smile

 
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