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Sep 21, 2012 - 8:14 PM
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TroyF
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I am sooooo excited about this release. La La has been consistently getting better and better. They're almost as good as FSM now  I picked up the 3 Disc set for ST:TMP and was very impressed (and I've been collecting soundtracks for decades). Sound and the packaging were just top notch.
I definitely have money set aside for this release, I just hope 6000 are enough. When it's announced, I'm ordering. This really appears to be a must-have release. When I heard that a lot of 3rd season material was in this set, I got so hot I started smoking. If it has all the music from Way to Eden, I'll probably exploded!. Yeah, Brother!
And No Shatner? Well, I've heard him sing and you can leave him off as far as I'm concerned.
This time its the music.
Lukas, Ford, Jeff and everybody at La La Land, Thanks for all the hard work on this epic release. This appears to become your Masterpiece. This Trekkie salutes you. (I've been a Trekkie to long to be a Trekker now.)
Live Long and Prosper! "Click, Click"
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Actually, "Star Trek" borrows a lot from "Voyage": they have the same format, more or less.
How so? Both were semi-military shows about a ship going on missions, but I don't remember the Enterprise constantly being attacked by giant monsters, endless evil duplicates, and wacky spies. The Enterprise reactor wasn't perched to blow every week, the crew didn't get brainwashed and fight themselves and no episode of Star Trek was made up of primarily stock footage from movies or previously aired episodes (don't even mention The Menagerie, it does not count). Voyage's idea of sci-fi was monsters from the deep and aliens coming to take the Seaview's nuclear reactor.
Don't get me wrong, I love - LOVE - Voyage. It's my favorite show just after Trek. But aside from one or two similar stories (they both did The Enemy Below and both had an android duplicate of the head guy come aboard), Star Trek borrowed nothing from Voyage.
"Voyage" has a score by Alexander Courage.
Voyage has MANY scores by Courage and they're all great. And one by Jerry Goldsmith.
Besides, LLL stated that they will release it in 2013.
As far as I have heard, they HOPE to release some music if they can get the rights squared away. There has been no formal, definite announcement.
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Sep 22, 2012 - 11:41 AM
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Rollin Hand
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Actually, "Star Trek" borrows a lot from "Voyage": they have the same format, more or less.
How so? Both were semi-military shows about a ship going on missions, but I don't remember the Enterprise constantly being attacked by giant monsters, endless evil duplicates, and wacky spies. The Enterprise reactor wasn't perched to blow every week, the crew didn't get brainwashed and fight themselves and no episode of Star Trek was made up of primarily stock footage from movies or previously aired episodes (don't even mention The Menagerie, it does not count). Voyage's idea of sci-fi was monsters from the deep and aliens coming to take the Seaview's nuclear reactor.
Don't get me wrong, I love - LOVE - Voyage. It's my favorite show just after Trek. But aside from one or two similar stories (they both did The Enemy Below and both had an android duplicate of the head guy come aboard), Star Trek borrowed nothing from Voyage.
"Voyage" has a score by Alexander Courage.
Voyage has MANY scores by Courage and they're all great. And one by Jerry Goldsmith.
Besides, LLL stated that they will release it in 2013.
As far as I have heard, they HOPE to release some music if they can get the rights squared away. There has been no formal, definite announcement.
"Star Trek" is very similare to "Voyage": a crew, a ship, two officers, a doc, adventure.
They both tilts the frame for collisions.
Nelson is Kirk.
Crane is Spock.
Chief is Bone.
Sparks is Uhura.
Impulsive Kowalski turns into Tchekov.
Same mold.
"Voyage to the Bottom of the Star" or "Sea Trek": all the same.
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Same mold.
"Voyage to the Bottom of the Star" or "Sea Trek": all the same.
We're gonna need a bigger sub.
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I will say that I am a tad dissappointed (just a tad, mind you) that Shatner's narration isn't included on one disc in the set.
I'm disssssappointed we didn't get "Lois Pad" in the Superman box.
But there's always the third edition.
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"Star Trek" is very similar to "Voyage": a crew, a ship, two officers, a doc, adventure.
Both shows feature semi military vessels patterned after the US Navy. Of course the command and crew structure are similar. There will be similar jobs (like communications person) because that's how it is on naval vessels. Both being adventure shows is meaningless.
They both tilts the frame for collisions.
Oh please, every series that needed a vehicle to tilt used the same technique. Voyage didn't invent it, neither did Star Trek.
Nelson is Kirk.
Crane is Spock.
Chief is Bone.
Sparks is Uhura.
Impulsive Kowalski turns into Tchekov.
Same mold.
You're really not serious are you? How is the personality of Admiral Nelson in anyway similar to Kirk? Nelson is a upper middle aged, brilliant and cranky. Kirk is a young, brash ladies man. Tell me how Crane is a half alien with controlled emotions under constant inner turmoil? Bones and Starkey couldn't be farther apart in personality.
"Voyage to the Bottom of the Star" or "Sea Trek": all the same.
Sorry, no. The only thing that is similar is the military, naval format. Otherwise, they are totally different shows and characters.
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Sep 23, 2012 - 8:05 PM
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Last Child
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The only thing that is similar is the military, naval format. Otherwise, they are totally different shows and characters.
I know what he means. Both series were made roughly at the same time, and did have several superficial similarities. Being about ships, the plots were bound to overlap (battling foreign enemies, investigating strange phenomena, etc). Both Shatner and Basehart are short, and do slightly resemble each other (more so as they got older). Heh, they played brothers in "Brothers Karamazov"(1958). Hedison and Nimoy are both tall, lean and tend to be unemotional.
One of the shows Courage scored has a very similar plot to "What are little girls made of?" Mad scientist Victor Bono wants to run the world with cyborgs, and creates a duplicate of Nelson.
Of course, how each series was realized in detail are quite different.
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The only thing that is similar is the military, naval format. Otherwise, they are totally different shows and characters.
I know what he means. Both series were made roughly at the same time, and did have several superficial similarities.
Superficial similarities are not the same thing as ""Voyage to the Bottom of the Star" or "Sea Trek": all the same."
I touched on most of the stuff you mentioned, and most of these things are inherent in the format of that type of show (and I don't agree about David Hedison playing Crane unemotionally). But one did not "borrow" from the other nor were they "all the same." The characters were still miles apart. Wanna see a similarity between characters? Williams Shatner and Robert Conrad were both short and both played action leads in 60's adventure shows and were both named "Captain James T." something. Both were quick with their fists and big with the ladies and ripped their shorts often. Wild Wild West premiered a year before Trek.
Voyage had nothing nearly as close. Star Trek borrowed form a ton of sources, but not Voyage. I don't think Roddenberry would have been caught dead taking any inspiration from Irwin Allen. It was exactly the kind of S-F that Roddenberry hated.
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I don't think Roddenberry would have been caught dead taking any inspiration from Irwin Allen. It was exactly the kind of S-F that Roddenberry hated.
Irwin Allen, on the other hand, had no problem borrowing from Roddenberry.
"The Making of Star Trek" and other subsequent books tell the tale of the infamous meeting between Roddenberry and "the suits" at CBS. They picked his brain, and took notes, on every topic they could think of having to do with producing a weekly science fiction adventure on a TV budget.
Then they rejected Roddenberry's pitch saying, "Thanks, but we're already working on something very similar."
"Lost in Space" debuted on CBS a year before NBC's "Star Trek."
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