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 Posted:   Jun 4, 2013 - 9:51 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

(Does Roddenberry get half of the fanfare? Or only the long line main title melody?)

My understanding of the handshake deal is that he gets half the royalties.

 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2013 - 10:05 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

(Does Roddenberry get half of the fanfare? Or only the long line main title melody?)

My understanding of the handshake deal is that he gets half the royalties.


I don't know anything about a handshake deal, and I don't believe one would be necessary. So long as Roddenberry got his lyrics published (and he did), he is entitled to half the royalties. If the fanfare is considered a separate piece of music (which it could be) and does not appear on the sheet music where the lyrics were published, it may fall outside of that issue.

 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2013 - 10:52 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

I don't know anything about a handshake deal, and I don't believe one would be necessary. So long as Roddenberry got his lyrics published (and he did), he is entitled to half the royalties. If the fanfare is considered a separate piece of music (which it could be) and does not appear on the sheet music where the lyrics were published, it may fall outside of that issue.

You could very well be right. I'm no lawyer and my reading musical legality could fill a thimble half-way.

 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2013 - 11:17 AM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

Why is this even an issue? Gene Roddenberry created Star Trek. If artists, writers and actors are going to work on "his" show, he should be entitled to half of their work even if that work doesn't reflect any of Gene's own contributions. I'm honestly surprised that the role for James T. Kirk isn't credited to William Shatner & Gene Roddenberry. If Gene had any input to his character, he should also get acting credit and half of Shatner's salary. Heck, he probably contributed to all the characters.

Kirk - William Shatner/Gene Roddenberry
Spock - Leonard Nimoy/Gene Roddenberry
McCoy - DeForest Kelly/Gene Roddenberry
Scotty - James Doohan/Gene Roddenberry
Uhura - Nichelle Nichols/Gene Roddenberry
Sulu - George Takei/Gene Roddenberry
Chekov - Walter Koenig/Gene Roddenberry

You make it sound like these artists use their talents in order to make an honest living. Well that doesn't bode too well with Gene's vision of a perfect humanity. Humanity doesn't work for money in

PICARD: Mankind is no longer obsessed with the accumulation of things. We've eliminated hunger, want. The need for possessions. We've grown out of our infancy.

You see? Gene was helping Alexander Courage not take the full share of his work because working for a living and expecting to get paid for it is infantile. Courage should be grateful that Gene altered the theme for later seasons based on his notes.

Pspspspsps! Yeah right. I will never accept nor acknowledge that Gene Roddenberry had anything to do with creating Star Trek's iconic theme where he deserves half the credit. If you create lyrics that you never plan on using just so you can take the real artists earnings, I will always denounce your co-credit as a farce.

 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2013 - 11:29 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Thank you for that update on how the real world doesn't work, Jeyl.

We now return you to our regularly scheduled discussion, already in progress.

 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2013 - 11:51 AM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

- Thank you for that update on how the real world doesn't work, Jeyl.

You're very welcome.

Also, did Gerald Fried ever get any credit or a thank you for his "Amok Time" notes being used in "San Fran Hustle"?

 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2013 - 10:04 PM   
 By:   TM2-Megatron   (Member)

I'm glad to hear CBS stuck to their guns and stonewalled JJ's plans to quash the Prime Universe. Since the split, I've always greatly preferred the treatment CBS gave to their portion of the franchise than Paramount's efforts, from merchandising to something as basic as CBS's excellent Blu-Ray Season sets compared to Paramount's releases of the films, which I haven't even bothered buying.

But I guess it shouldn't be surprising; CBS got the vast majority of the the best parts of Trek in the split.

 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2013 - 3:39 AM   
 By:   Moonie   (Member)

the Score and the movie are GREAT

 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2013 - 5:56 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

I'm glad to hear CBS stuck to their guns and stonewalled JJ's plans to quash the Prime Universe. Since the split, I've always greatly preferred the treatment CBS gave to their portion of the franchise than Paramount's efforts, from merchandising to something as basic as CBS's excellent Blu-Ray Season sets compared to Paramount's releases of the films, which I haven't even bothered buying.

But I guess it shouldn't be surprising; CBS got the vast majority of the the best parts of Trek in the split.


The TOS film series are a mixed bag. TMP has an amazing BluRay transfer. TWOK is way to grainy. TVH has so much DNR it looks like a cartoon.

 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2013 - 6:40 AM   
 By:   Grimsdyke   (Member)

I'm glad to hear CBS stuck to their guns and stonewalled JJ's plans to quash the Prime Universe. Since the split, I've always greatly preferred the treatment CBS gave to their portion of the franchise than Paramount's efforts, from merchandising to something as basic as CBS's excellent Blu-Ray Season sets compared to Paramount's releases of the films, which I haven't even bothered buying.

But it should be noted that TOS-Season 1 on BluRay was financed back then from Toshiba during the format war between HD-DVD and BluRay.

 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2013 - 5:44 AM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

New interview with Giacchino: http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2013/09/17/star-trek-composer-michael-giacchino-boldly-goes-into-darkness/

 
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