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 Posted:   Dec 20, 2013 - 6:19 AM   
 By:   xG-MONEYx   (Member)

THE BUCCANEER should account for all of Elmer Bernstein's work at Paramount accounted for with the exception of WHERE'S JACK ? We know already that THE TEN COMMANDMENTS is being prepared elsewhere.

Is THE BUCCANEER being released today & what time?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2013 - 7:13 AM   
 By:   JB Fan   (Member)

Is THE BUCCANEER being released today & what time?

No - Bruce already said:

Monday morning.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2013 - 10:41 AM   
 By:   Niall from Ireland   (Member)

THE BUCCANEER should account for all of Elmer Bernstein's work at Paramount accounted for with the exception of WHERE'S JACK ? We know already that THE TEN COMMANDMENTS is being prepared elsewhere.

I remember some years ago someone said that very difficult licensing problems makes Where's Jack? an almost impossible title to release, sic, maybe things have changed in the meantime, I sure hope so as it's a superb score!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2013 - 10:54 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

I remember some years ago someone said that very difficult licensing problems makes Where's Jack? an almost impossible title to release, sic, maybe things have changed in the meantime, I sure hope so as it's a superb score!


Although things are obviously more open at Paramount than they used to be, there is still the Paramount Records LP (now controlled by UMG) for WHERE'S JACK? that still must be accounted for. But Kritzerland successfully navigated this same situation with THE MOLLY MAGUIRES.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2013 - 11:54 AM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

I remember some years ago someone said that very difficult licensing problems makes Where's Jack? an almost impossible title to release, sic, maybe things have changed in the meantime, I sure hope so as it's a superb score!


Although things are obviously more open at Paramount than they used to be, there is still the Paramount Records LP (now controlled by UMG) for WHERE'S JACK? that still must be accounted for. But Kritzerland successfully navigated this same situation with THE MOLLY MAGUIRES.



On the LP , It also states that the Mary Hopkin vocal is through the courtesy of Apple Records. Could this be causing added difficulty in having a CD of this excellent score released?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2013 - 12:43 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Excellent news. When can we order?

Monday morning.


This is wonderful news.

Bruce, is there any chance of releasing Waxman's brillant score to 'The Nuns Story' in 2014?


I wish. The LP version still seems to be with Stanyan (Rod McKuen's company) and he's been mining his Warners stuff for years on CD. It could sound so much better, though, but he either has it in perpetuity or he just keeps doing it anyway.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2013 - 12:54 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

On the [WHERE'S JACK?} LP , It also states that the Mary Hopkin vocal is through the courtesy of Apple Records. Could this be causing added difficulty in having a CD of this excellent score released?


For that matter, it also states that "Danny Doyle appears by courtesy of TRIBUNE RECORDS of Dublin." And one more potential hiccup: apparently, the music for this British production was recorded at International Recording Studios in Rome. So maybe the original tracks aren't in Hollywood.

 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2013 - 4:19 AM   
 By:   Stefan Huber   (Member)

Excellent news. When can we order?

Monday morning.


This is wonderful news.

Bruce, is there any chance of releasing Waxman's brillant score to 'The Nuns Story' in 2014?


I wish. The LP version still seems to be with Stanyan (Rod McKuen's company) and he's been mining his Warners stuff for years on CD. It could sound so much better, though, but he either has it in perpetuity or he just keeps doing it anyway.


You mean Warner has better tapes on this? Otherwise I find it hard to believe since these early Stanyan disks were mastered by Steve Hoffman - no less. His vintage masterings (and Dennis Drake's for UMG) usually kill all re-issues of the same stuff...

 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2013 - 7:23 AM   
 By:   finder4545   (Member)

Our CD runs around seventy-seven minutes. Some of that is source music (by Elmer), and some are Elmer's piano demos. I'm hoping people will be very impressed by the sound quality and improvements thereof.

THE BUCCANEER! But something is wrong in the calculation. The 13 tracks LP album runs about 47:00, the total CD time is 77:00 !!!
Some already known original tracks, missing a part of the score, runs about 60min.
So, are the "original" and the "album" tracks the one and same thing, with about 30:00 minutes added?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2013 - 7:52 AM   
 By:   James MacMillan   (Member)

On the [WHERE'S JACK?} LP , It also states that the Mary Hopkin vocal is through the courtesy of Apple Records. Could this be causing added difficulty in having a CD of this excellent score released?


For that matter, it also states that "Danny Doyle appears by courtesy of TRIBUNE RECORDS of Dublin." And one more potential hiccup: apparently, the music for this British production was recorded at International Recording Studios in Rome. So maybe the original tracks aren't in Hollywood.


Bob - The scoring for Where's Jack? was done at the old CTS Studios in London. The ALBUM for Paramount Records was recorded in Rome.

- JMM.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2013 - 9:05 AM   
 By:   Niall from Ireland   (Member)

According to Irish folk singer Danny Doyle the score and song was first recorded in Hollywood at the Paramount Recording Studios with The Los Angeles Philharmonic but Elmer wasn't happy with the sound so then they went to Rome and lastly London! Have a look at this very interesting snippet:

http://books.google.ie/books?id=nbnEPpxyDmoC&pg=PA90&lpg=PA90&dq=Where%27s+Jack+Elmer+Bernstein+and+Danny+Doyle&source=bl&ots=8AVQy125s6&sig=aQWM_43uCeIW_la6yPKz-gMpb9c&hl=en&sa=X&ei=0bG1Ut3xNpDwhQeA1YCIBw&ved=0CF4Q6AEwCDgK#v=onepage&q=Where%27s%20Jack%20Elmer%20Bernstein%20and%20Danny%20Doyle&f=false

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2013 - 9:55 AM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

According to Irish folk singer Danny Doyle the score and song was first recorded in Hollywood at the Paramount Recording Studios with The Los Angeles Philharmonic but Elmer wasn't happy with the sound so then they went to Rome and lastly London! Have a look at this very interesting snippet:

http://books.google.ie/books?id=nbnEPpxyDmoC&pg=PA90&lpg=PA90&dq=Where%27s+Jack+Elmer+Bernstein+and+Danny+Doyle&source=bl&ots=8AVQy125s6&sig=aQWM_43uCeIW_la6yPKz-gMpb9c&hl=en&sa=X&ei=0bG1Ut3xNpDwhQeA1YCIBw&ved=0CF4Q6AEwCDgK#v=onepage&q=Where%27s%20Jack%20Elmer%20Bernstein%20and%20Danny%20Doyle&f=false

Very interesting. Thanks for posting this.


 
 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2013 - 3:36 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Excellent news. When can we order?

Monday morning.


This is wonderful news.

Bruce, is there any chance of releasing Waxman's brillant score to 'The Nuns Story' in 2014?


I wish. The LP version still seems to be with Stanyan (Rod McKuen's company) and he's been mining his Warners stuff for years on CD. It could sound so much better, though, but he either has it in perpetuity or he just keeps doing it anyway.


You mean Warner has better tapes on this? Otherwise I find it hard to believe since these early Stanyan disks were mastered by Steve Hoffman - no less. His vintage masterings (and Dennis Drake's for UMG) usually kill all re-issues of the same stuff...


I'm not at all certain Stanyan was given first generation tapes when these were put on LP. Even if they were, they'd be the two-track album masters, and given what I know of these things, there should be a three-track album master somewhere. I know not if Warners has anything beyond what was on the LP.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2013 - 3:40 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Our CD runs around seventy-seven minutes. Some of that is source music (by Elmer), and some are Elmer's piano demos. I'm hoping people will be very impressed by the sound quality and improvements thereof.

THE BUCCANEER! But something is wrong in the calculation. The 13 tracks LP album runs about 47:00, the total CD time is 77:00 !!!
Some already known original tracks, missing a part of the score, runs about 60min.
So, are the "original" and the "album" tracks the one and same thing, with about 30:00 minutes added?


Actually we're probably closer to 75 or 76 minutes. The original LP didn't have the complete score and I don't think it runs all of forty-seven minutes. But this is complete, that's all I can tell you, but complete includes all the Elmer source music, some of which is in the score presentation and some of which is included as bonus tracks if I felt it interrupted the flow of the score proper. The rest are the Bernstein piano demos.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2013 - 5:27 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

Our CD runs around seventy-seven minutes. Some of that is source music (by Elmer), and some are Elmer's piano demos. I'm hoping people will be very impressed by the sound quality and improvements thereof.

THE BUCCANEER! But something is wrong in the calculation. The 13 tracks LP album runs about 47:00, the total CD time is 77:00 !!!
Some already known original tracks, missing a part of the score, runs about 60min.
So, are the "original" and the "album" tracks the one and same thing, with about 30:00 minutes added?


Actually we're probably closer to 75 or 76 minutes. The original LP didn't have the complete score and I don't think it runs all of forty-seven minutes. But this is complete, that's all I can tell you, but complete includes all the Elmer source music, some of which is in the score presentation and some of which is included as bonus tracks if I felt it interrupted the flow of the score proper. The rest are the Bernstein piano demos.




Sounds great Bruce ..... my order will be in Monday morning! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2013 - 8:15 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

Looking forward to ordering THE BUCCANEER and receiving SABRINA. A Kritzerland week is coming up fast.

 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2013 - 12:03 PM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

THE BUCCANEER is such a great news and one of the releases of the year (or the next) smile
It really can't any better than that... well... unless of course you would dig up anything by Luboš Fišer anywhere :-)

( )

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 23, 2013 - 3:07 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)


Bruce, is Sabrina, John Wayne etc. being shipped today?

I think you said last week they would be. Thanks. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 23, 2013 - 3:34 PM   
 By:   Niall from Ireland   (Member)

According to Irish folk singer Danny Doyle the score and song was first recorded in Hollywood at the Paramount Recording Studios with The Los Angeles Philharmonic but Elmer wasn't happy with the sound so then they went to Rome and lastly London! Have a look at this very interesting snippet:

http://books.google.ie/books?id=nbnEPpxyDmoC&pg=PA90&lpg=PA90&dq=Where%27s+Jack+Elmer+Bernstein+and+Danny+Doyle&source=bl&ots=8AVQy125s6&sig=aQWM_43uCeIW_la6yPKz-gMpb9c&hl=en&sa=X&ei=0bG1Ut3xNpDwhQeA1YCIBw&ved=0CF4Q6AEwCDgK#v=onepage&q=Where%27s%20Jack%20Elmer%20Bernstein%20and%20Danny%20Doyle&f=false

Very interesting. Thanks for posting this.


Thanks, so glad you enjoyed it!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 23, 2013 - 4:34 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Bruce, is Sabrina, John Wayne etc. being shipped today?

I think you said last week they would be. Thanks. smile


So it is written, so it shall be done. All went out this day.

 
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