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 Posted:   Dec 9, 2013 - 11:14 PM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)

Surely one of the main reasons there are few Golden Age titles being released is because most of the best scores of what is available from the major composers have already been released. I can think of only a few scores from my personal favourites of Rozsa, Newman, Herrmann, Korngold or Tiomkin which I am still waiting for and despite liking scores from that era I don't buy everything just because it's from that period.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2013 - 11:27 PM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

Well I didn't really expect any golden age from Varese. They were releasing 50's Fox titles some years ago & then the baton passed to Intrada, & now it's Kritzerland, who are doing a great job. It looks like Varese went out with a bang with the Herrmann box. The last Varese I bought was the two-disc, The Egyptian. I still would have liked a 60's title (which I may or may not have bought, depending on whether or not I wanted it). If you look at what is released every month by all the other labels, then Varese are now minor players in the soundtrack catalogue market.

 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2013 - 11:43 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Surely one of the main reasons there are few Golden Age titles being released is because most of the best scores of what is available from the major composers have already been released. I can think of only a few scores from my personal favourites of Rozsa, Newman, Herrmann, Korngold or Tiomkin which I am still waiting for and despite liking scores from that era I don't buy everything just because it's from that period.

Yup this. I just placed my order for Brass Target though smile Lovely themes.

 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2013 - 11:56 PM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)


All of this because Joe said he wished there had been a single stinkin' Golden Age title among the Varese releases? It didn't seem like "ire" to me, but I guess it depends on which side of the counter you're on.


Well, the thread title is in all caps (which correlates with screaming), with five question marks, then five exclamation points in the text, plus the general implication that they somehow 'owe' people a Golden Age title because it's been so long since the last club releases.

That seems pretty ireful to me.


The content is pretty tame and straightforward though, more plaintive than "ireful," seems to me. I wouldn't have done the title like that, but the content is the message. Some people use caps to get attention, thinking you are more likely then to read what they have to say. (And he is Joe Caps, after all!)

 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2013 - 11:56 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

Hey, I'm at the front door of their office with a pitch fork and a torch, where are you all at? I thought we should just finish them off for good...

 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2013 - 12:07 AM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

I merely comment, as an observer of human behavior, that (some) people are awfully demanding of the labels. I see posts complaining that there are too many CDs to buy, and also CDs criticizing the choices of titles...which is it?

Is this a serious question? It's like General Motors saying, "Some of you people say you want red cars and some of you want blue cars...so which is it gonna be, folks?" Obviously people want red cars and blue cars, and if you want to sell a lot of cars, you'll offer both. Are customers regarded as "demanding" by the car companies because they don't all want the same thing? ("Oh, those pain-in-the-ass customers -- always wanting something!!") What an odd version of a market economy we have here!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2013 - 6:09 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

Surely one of the main reasons there are few Golden Age titles being released is because most of the best scores of what is available from the major composers have already been released. I can think of only a few scores from my personal favourites of Rozsa, Newman, Herrmann, Korngold or Tiomkin which I am still waiting for and despite liking scores from that era I don't buy everything just because it's from that period.


On top of which, there's far less availability. How many have tapes lost, etc?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2013 - 6:57 AM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

okay - always hopin for another classic from Fox and gang
Newman - O Henrys Full House,
this Above All,
bckground music to South Pacific
Varese has specialised in relesing Elmer Bernstein scores from Bernsteins own tapes.
they also have done the same for Alex North.
How about a complete Freindly Persuasion.
The album tapes are around and could be expanded using the up and down mono track that is on the Warners remaster, recently run on TCM.

Newman - Diary of Anne frank.
We seem to be going backward here.
Fox even screwed up the music on its second dvd release.
On the first release, the Overture was stuffed into the menu.
Now its back as part of the beginning of the film, but improperly edited.
The Overture finishes, then the film starts with the Fox logo with NO sound. that is because the last 18 seconds of the Overture is meant to be played directly into the Fox logo.
Again, there is an intermission card, but still missing is the exit music for act one (1:53),
and the entracte is missing (3:00).
So again, five minuts of the film and Alfred Newmans score are still missing.
All Fox had to do for reference was look at the old laserdisc edition, where everything is there, correctly. this is all very sad.

MUCHO thanks to Kritzerland for bringing out some of the most interesting releases of the past few years !!!!!!

 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2013 - 8:04 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Y'know, when I rewind 20 years and there was practically NOTHING coming out — and what did was often an unremastered LP reissue — it's weird to think that we'd be complaining about what's happening today.

Yeah okay, I'm not that moved by this batch myself and, yeah, why not a this and why not a that ... but folks these are golden, abundant times for soundtrackers, not sparse ones.

I'm more inclined to celebrate than mourn the current state of soundtrack releasing even if I have repetitively unfulfilled wants and not all batches are equally exciting.

I tell you, you'll miss it when it's all over.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2013 - 8:11 AM   
 By:   paul rossen   (Member)



Newman - Diary of Anne frank.
We seem to be going backward here.
Fox even screwed up the music on its second dvd release.
On the first release, the Overture was stuffed into the menu.
Now its back as part of the beginning of the film, but improperly edited.
The Overture finishes, then the film starts with the Fox logo with NO sound. that is because the last 18 seconds of the Overture is meant to be played directly into the Fox logo.
Again, there is an intermission card, but still missing is the exit music for act one (1:53),
and the entracte is missing (3:00).
So again, five minuts of the film and Alfred Newmans score are still missing.
All Fox had to do for reference was look at the old laserdisc edition, where everything is there, correctly. this is all very sad.

MUCHO thanks to Kritzerland for bringing out some of the most interesting releases of the past few years !!!!!!



If I remember correctly it was at the request of George Stevens Jr that the Diary of Anne Frank is without it's intermission music etc. Thus, I blame him not Fox for the removal of some of the
Newman music.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2013 - 8:21 AM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

Why delete this music in Anne frank. It makes no sense.

Especially when its been available before.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2013 - 8:32 AM   
 By:   paul rossen   (Member)

Why delete this music in Anne frank. It makes no sense.

Especially when its been available before.


It was Stevens Jr's belief that his father did not want the Intermission and the music break. It makes no sense but it is what it is...

 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2013 - 8:34 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

Y'know, when I rewind 20 years and there was practically NOTHING coming out — and what did was often an unremastered LP reissue — it's weird to think that we'd be complaining about what's happening today.

Actually, 20 years ago was right when expansions first started happening! Varèse's issue of Conan the Barbarian, Southern Cross' Krull, Silva's Legend: The Jerry Goldsmith Score, Intrada's Planet of the Apes (only expanded by one cue, but it was the films signature musical sequence!)…

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2013 - 9:15 AM   
 By:   John Black   (Member)

I've made no secret of the fact that my holy grail would be a complete OBSESSION. That score seems to exist in a no-man's land which falls somewhere between The Golden Age and the newer 80's/90's milieu.

I would think that OBSESSION might appeal to devotees of both of those eras.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2013 - 9:16 AM   
 By:   John Black   (Member)

Duplicate post.

 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2013 - 9:28 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

I've made no secret of the fact that my holy grail would be a complete OBSESSION. That score seems to exist in a no-man's land which falls somewhere between The Golden Age and the newer 80's/90's milieu.

I would think that OBSESSION might appeal to devotees of both of those eras.


I'm with you. OBSESSION belongs to the elite list of unreleased scores — that list of the highest prizes amongst remaining unreleased scores.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2013 - 9:45 AM   
 By:   The Beach Bum   (Member)




"There are unpleasant surprises as well as pleasant surprises."

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2013 - 9:48 AM   
 By:   slint   (Member)

I've made no secret of the fact that my holy grail would be a complete OBSESSION. That score seems to exist in a no-man's land which falls somewhere between The Golden Age and the newer 80's/90's milieu.

I would think that OBSESSION might appeal to devotees of both of those eras.


I'm with you. OBSESSION belongs to the elite list of unreleased scores — that list of the highest prizes amongst remaining unreleased scores.


Soundtrackcollector gives a few releases (LP/CD) for this one (apart from a bootleg), so they are all re-recordings?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2013 - 10:03 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

I've made no secret of the fact that my holy grail would be a complete OBSESSION. That score seems to exist in a no-man's land which falls somewhere between The Golden Age and the newer 80's/90's milieu.

I would think that OBSESSION might appeal to devotees of both of those eras.


I'm with you. OBSESSION belongs to the elite list of unreleased scores — that list of the highest prizes amongst remaining unreleased scores.


Soundtrackcollector gives a few releases (LP/CD) for this one (apart from a bootleg), so they are all re-recordings?



Well my copy stems from the very beginning of the Varese club (actually theirs Masters of Film Music offshoot) and sold out the longest time ago ever for a CD. The rest are boots or rerecordings.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2013 - 10:18 AM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

I always wanted that MFM OBSESSION disc, but was happily surprised
when Unicorn Kanchana reissued those contents in 1994, just with uglier
art. It's probably easier to get than the MFM disc, but still OOP more than
likely.....

Put me down for THAT as a grail too - the mono complete 'thing' out there
is taken from isolated laserdisc score tracks, sounds rotten in retrospect, but
dammit there is a TON of amazing music unaccounted for in Herrmann's 38
minute assembly....

http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/2862/Obsession

 
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