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Jul 29, 2014 - 3:20 PM
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Tom Servo
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By the way it's not entirely complete. There's the so called bootleg that leaked early this year, and the VS release will not include 6m43A Spock to Spock and End Credits Part 2. Anyone know why this is? They provided the film version end credits, instead of the concert version I'm guessing.. I have not heard the leaked "so called bootleg" (so called because, you know, it's a bootleg), but I'm pretty certain that the end credits were recorded in several sections and assembled into the final version that appears in the film and on this album. Therefore, "End Credits Part 2" is purely a technical name indicating how it was recorded, but not how it was intended to be presented. I'm guessing the music itself is folded into the end credits suite on the CD. Rule of thumb in soundtrack collecting - never trust a bootleg, it was never intended as the final listening version of the score, in terms of sound and presentation.
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Jul 29, 2014 - 8:40 PM
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MikeP
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I love, LOVE Giacchino's Star Trek theme! I think it's exciting, optimistic, adventurous and has a "Lets Go!" attitude. I get all giddy when I hear it. I'm surprised so many don't like it. I just wish his action cues were more thematically developed because that's where his scores suffer. I do love the piano pieces which are very beautiful. Absolutely. Mg's theme is wonderful and stands shoulder to shoulder with any other Trek theme ( so sez me ) . I like Giacchino's action music, but agree his strong suit is in dramatic, sad, wistful music. That is where he leads the pack of today's composers, in writing really beautiful music. I'm happy this was released and kudos to Varese and MG for making it happen. Sure I bought the original CD a year or whatever ago, and was thought, but wasn't sure, that there'd be an expanded edition. After some of the fanboy backlash over the deluxe edition of the first score, my thought was they might just say "the hell with this" and just let it be. Glad I was wrong. And damn, mine has shipped too. Fastest service ever for a club release. Varese is doing fine by me, thank you very much
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Got my shipment today (LA County) . Thank you DMD and team! And STID does have chorus on multiple tracks. Enjoying. You are MOST welcome, ENJOY the goodies!! That photo of the club discs above a few posts, that looks quite familiar. OH wait, that's from my Facebook page, lol.
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Just placed my order a few minutes ago, can't wait to get it! It was this or Empire of the Sun, hopefully the next time I have some extra money EotS will still be available. My love for Trek won out for now.
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And mine shipped too. Yay !!!
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Jul 30, 2014 - 2:48 PM
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Jeyl
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- yeah, that was a cheat too Funny how the film uses a cheat to expel a cheat. How do you confiscate an equation? Transwarp Beaming was not depicted as a 'special device' that needed a unique power source to function. It was a number you inputed into the transporter's computer that made it the most powerful tool ever created. They were able to get a torn apart shuttlecraft to use it to it's fullest capability, and integrate it into the Enterprise's transporter computer to beam all the way from Titan to Earth. It was also an equation that Scotty now fully understands since seeing the equation showed him why it wasn't working. Why couldn't Scotty just replicate his equation? Did Starfleet just disregard it as dangerous and go through every single transporter in every single one of their ships and establishments to ensure that the equation would never work? Why? Even with that hiccup involving Scotty being beamed into water tubes, the transwarp equation has so far killed... *checks details*... ZERO PEOPLE. Not only that, it was pivotal in saving the entirety of the Federation. And whatever dangers there were, they should know that this equation was discovered 120 years into the future, so the level of technology was no doubt much more sophisticated. Not to mention that they were beaming from a shuttlecraft on a planet onto a ship cruising at warp speed that was already lightyears away. Were they afraid of transwarp beaming falling into the wrong hands? That's hardly a worry since, again, if you can confiscate an equation, you can hide it in the computer itself. I mean, if anyone who is going to hijack a Federation ship, how are they going to know about the equation if the technician simply deletes it? There are so many ways to hide an equation in a computer it shouldn't be a risk. Maybe Starfleet literally confiscated it from Scotty's mind and left that part blank. If that was the case, why did they allow Scotty to remember having it confiscated in the first place? Why was beaming aboard a ship that took Khan to a Klingon controlled world less practical? As we see in both movies, there is nothing in Earth's orbit that is capable of handling anything. If they can't see two starships fighting around the moon and seeing the Enterprise and Vengeance falling into Earth's atmosphere, why couldn't Khan just take a ship and be gone? At least tracking the ship would have added more believable obstacles than having a genetically superior human forget to clear the history on his electronic device.
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That photo of the club discs above a few posts, that looks quite familiar. OH wait, that's from my Facebook page, lol.
I gave you credit under the picture.
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- There's the so called bootleg that leaked early this year, and the VS release will not include 6m43A Spock to Spock How appropriate that a piece of the score that will not be on this release comes from a scene that should have been cut out of the movie altogether. Hey, you know that bad guy who has been doing bad things? Well, I'm here to tell you that he's the bad guy and he's probably going to do some bad things. I'm glad we had this conversation because if you didn't know he was the bad guy, you would never have figured it out on your own. One of my favorite things I ever read on a message board was a post on The A.V. Club about this very sequence. The guy wrote, "When you do a reboot, you're not allowed to call the old show on the phone and ask them what they did in their version."
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