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This is a comments thread about FSM CD: Where Eagles Dare/Operation Crossbow
 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2011 - 12:04 PM   
 By:   Miguel Rojo   (Member)

"Another Snaps - Then I will escort you to your quaters"

Fraulein!



Mild, come on, its Derren Nesbitt, you know its "Anuzzer schnapps, und zen I vill escort you to your qvarters...!!!"

It just isnt the same without the accent!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2011 - 12:06 PM   
 By:   Miguel Rojo   (Member)

This is a fan site devoted to WED;

http://www.whereeaglesdare.com/movie/index.php


its a great site Chris. Spent hours there. Thats the one where you can buy your own alpine corps camoflage smock jacket, just like eastwood and Burton.

Always wanted one.

But too many soundtracks to buy.

 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2011 - 12:12 PM   
 By:   Chris Rimmer   (Member)

This is a fan site devoted to WED;

http://www.whereeaglesdare.com/movie/index.php


its a great site Chris. Spent hours there. Thats the one where you can buy your own alpine corps camoflage smock jacket, just like eastwood and Burton.

Always wanted one.

But too many soundtracks to buy.


Yep, it's a bugger really, you can't afford everything.

I'm off now packing for a break in Anglesey, I may take WED with me, to help while away a rain filled evening.

"Fences can be climbed, Lieutenant",

"I doubt those fences can, probably have around 2000 volts running through them".

 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2011 - 12:25 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Smith/Schmidtt: It's perfectly simple Major. The Lieutenant and myself have just uncovered a plot to assassinate the f├╝hrer.

General Rosemeyer, rising in indignation: This is preposterous!

Let's not forget that it's generally more preferable to complain there's too much music than to lament there's not enough.






 
 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2011 - 1:10 PM   
 By:   Miguel Rojo   (Member)

"....By ze fireplace..."

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2011 - 11:47 PM   
 By:   Miguel Rojo   (Member)

I see that after the wacky Brits went to bed last night, not a single American chipped in with a quote from the film. Boo! You guys cant let the side down like that! When British Intelligence needed an American to help the mission, coz they couldn't trust their own men, you sent Clint Eastwood's lethal Texas Ranger, who singlehandedly saw off 47 nazis. So I want verdicts on the score and a different quote from all of you as the day goes on! ha ha.

 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2011 - 11:57 PM   
 By:   mildcigar   (Member)

One of the Wacky Brits has arisen!

"Look, Major, either you start playing it straight or you can deal me out of this mess. Now we both know that radio operator wasn't killed in any drop. Now with MacPherson dead, there's only five of us left. So either you let me know what's going on or there's only gonna be four."

Still can't believe this hasn't sold out - I might get a second copy - just to be sure.

Mild.

 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2011 - 2:32 AM   
 By:   Chris Rimmer   (Member)

I see that after the wacky Brits went to bed last night, not a single American chipped in with a quote from the film. Boo! You guys cant let the side down like that! When British Intelligence needed an American to help the mission, coz they couldn't trust their own men, you sent Clint Eastwood's lethal Texas Ranger, who singlehandedly saw off 47 nazis. So I want verdicts on the score and a different quote from all of you as the day goes on! ha ha.

Another "wacky" Brit has arisen, and is posting one final quote before he retires his computer for a week ( I ain't lugging the damn thing on holiday)

Lt. Morris Schaffer: You mean we're gonna go down there? Mingle with the German Army?
Major John Smith: Of course. Why do you think we're not dressed as German sailors or Red Cross nurses?

Back in a week.

Broadsword calling Danny Boy, Broadsword calling Danny Boy over and out.

 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2011 - 2:49 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

Must admit, I haven't picked up this CD yet. Will be in my next batch.

Enjoy your holiday Chris!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2011 - 4:12 AM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

Miguel,

Perhaps our US colleagues have taken Lt. Schaffer's words to heart:

Do me a favour, will you; next time you have one of these things, keep it an all-British operation

(Penultimate line of dialogue)

Mitch

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2011 - 4:50 AM   
 By:   David Anthony   (Member)

After listening to the FSM cd I stand by more original comment that the LP works better as a listening experience to me. Don't get me wrong, there are some superb cues on the cd, but with the exception of 'Ascent on the Cable Car' it does'nt really get going till the 2nd half. Actually I'm surprised my comments were looked at as being so controversial, have you guys listened to the LP track recently? Anyway having listened to the FSM cd again, anyone who likes Goodwin's music that does not have it should get it!

I have fond memories of seeing Ron Goodwin in concert at the Bournemouth Winter Gardens, it was one of the last Christmas concerts he gave at this venue (which was closed down a few years ago now). Ron had been performing there with the Bournemouth Symphony Orchestra for many years, and had a great relationship with that orchestra. It was a thoroughly enjoyable concert, Ron was a great arranger of traditional,classical and pop music. But it was terribly frustrating to only here about 10 minutes of his own music, for me the highlight was from his New Zealand suite (now why the heck do I not have this on cd). He also played an excerpt from DRAKE 400 which was superb (one of my favourites that). Obviously there was a fair amount of Christmas music as well!
Later on I went to a memorial concert for him at Bournemouth Pavillion, again with the BSO. This one was introduced by Ed Stewart (who regrettably did not appear to know much about Goodwin's music). This included much more of Ron's own music and was more musically satisfying to me, WHERE EAGLES DARE was one of the highlights, and they played a few of his stand alone themes I had not heard before.

Dave

 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2011 - 4:58 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

Damn!

 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2011 - 5:39 AM   
 By:   mildcigar   (Member)

Double damned idiots for ignoring our advice in the first place.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2011 - 8:20 AM   
 By:   Miguel Rojo   (Member)

Chris - have a good holiday. Are you off for tea with the Bishop there?!!

Mitch - you might be right but its early yet, isnt it?

Leo/Dave - You were very lucky to get to see Ron at Bournemouth. Wish I had. I think Ron was very bashful about his own stuff. He had to be pushed to do it by others telling him it was liked and would go down well. I think he could tell stuff like 633 squadron was a crowd favourite from the reaction because he'd often do it as an opening number and was was known to quip afterwards "Well thats got that out of the way!" I dont know why he didnt promote his own stuff more - he didnt have an ego in the way some others in films do. I said this before but he once quoted as saying that, quite unbelievably, Where Eagles Dare was the one he was "least embarrassed by." Nice man. And more talented than he gave himself credit for.



"...Broadsword for you, sir..."


"....Father McCree here....All sins forgiven ....over...."

 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2011 - 6:57 PM   
 By:   Ray Worley   (Member)

I'm glad this thread has finally gotten to a discussion of this wonderful music. Even if it did take close to 2 years to fully recover from Thor's derailment.

This is one of my favorite FSM releases and one that gets played frequently. I like BOTH the album and film versions. And Goodwin's suspense music is FAR from boring.

I think this score best presents one of Goodwin's strengths: his immense skill at using the orchestra playing tutti. I get goosebumps every time I hear the full orchestra crashing away at the main title's basic rhythmn in the final part of the cue. And in the bus chase music.

OPERATION CROSSBOW isn't WED but its a damn fine score and I love the main theme. It stuck with me from the first time I saw it in a theatre in its original release. Years later, I could still hum it (how often can you do that with any film released today?). Needless to say, I was ecstatic to see it included with a full release of WED...an LP had played so much you could practically see thru it.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2011 - 11:52 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)


Leo/Dave - You were very lucky to get to see Ron at Bournemouth.


I saw him in concert in Sunderland in the late 1970s. He had a great rapport with the audience and I got the sense that the orchestra (don't recall which one) really enjoyed playing the likes of 633, Aces High and WED - before which he gave a warning that it was very scary music!

As well as providing one of the most atmospheric openings ever for a war film, what I enjoy about the score is its minimalist leanings. What I least enjoy are the source music extracts.

And to paraphrase some of the dialogue - if anyone tries to discredit this score, they bring it upon themselves...

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2011 - 7:00 AM   
 By:   Miguel Rojo   (Member)

more wacky brits have got up!!!!

I never thought there was a duff track on the whole score. It has such meanness and such energy. I understand the views of the source music - but if you remember it in the film it is the castle radio operator flicking from station to station finding various german flavoured music with a bad reception, and getting irritated with it, so I guess it served its purpose in the film.


"Tell him he is traitor"
"Tell him he is a renegade"
"Oh ja, zat ist Schmitt, no doubt about it."

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 24, 2012 - 10:14 PM   
 By:   Chris Malone   (Member)

Just a quick shout out for this set of Goodwin thrills. WED is an enjoyable romp and the score is great both in the film and on disc. Such a great powerhouse theme that builds, builds, builds from the quietest moments on a snare drum. Energy, excitement, action! Just played it all the way through. OPERATION CROSSBOW has some nice Goodwin-flavoured suspense too. And it all sounds great.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 24, 2012 - 11:46 PM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

I'll say four words: Chase to the Airfield.

 
 Posted:   Jun 24, 2012 - 11:56 PM   
 By:   Chris Rimmer   (Member)

I'll say four words: Chase to the Airfield.

Or, to put it another way, Escape from the Castle (Album Version)

 
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