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This is a comments thread about FSM CD: Islands in the Stream
 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2010 - 4:48 AM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)

Hmmm.....

There's a handful of Goldsmith soundtracks on my current wish list, and this title has been one of them for a long time (mostly because my Goldsmith collection is too bombastic, so I need more calm stuff). However, what I've always desired is the rerecording, for reasons you all know. Now my dilemma is that the preferred Intrada is pricey and hard-to-find, while this alternative one is now widely available and affordable.

But for those of you who know both, how would you compare them in regard to sound quality and performance, specifically (Intrada will obviously always have an advantage in musical presentation)?


I have the Intrada re-recording, and I hate it. You can have my copy if you wish (email me). I'm looking forward to the original soundtrack, which I imagine will finally tell me why Goldsmith himself prized this music so much.

EDIT: I see someone else already made Thor the offer... my offer still stands if necessary.

 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2010 - 4:49 AM   
 By:   SillyString   (Member)

Anyone who cares to rid themselves of their Intrada copy, I'd love to have one.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2010 - 5:04 AM   
 By:   Zeno Cosini   (Member)

WOW! Ordered!

 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2010 - 5:14 AM   
 By:   Misanthropic Tendencies   (Member)

Ehhhh all this winging about the recording or something when a new version comes out is a bit silly IMO, be it a re release but remastered, a re recording of an original or an original when only a re recording existed previously, cf. Islands In The Stream.

The liner notes on the Intrada re recording by Jerry himself state he saw it as a chance to improve upon the performance and recording of the film soundtrack - the very thing you peeps are praising now whilst dissing the re recording.

The first time I heard music from Islands In The Stream was a BBC radio broadcast of a concert. it was the marlin cue and I didn't like it. But I later bought the Intrada CD and found I loved the score, mainly for the beautiful music contained on it. Then did learn to love the more atonal cues.

I saw the film on TV back in the early 1990s and loved it. Still do and eventually ditched my VHS recording of the broadcast for the Region 1 DVD - pity there are no 'proper' extras.

I've ordered the new FSM disc but I do like the Intrada and don't really appreciate there were any issues with the Intrada.

For those who have never watched Islands In The Stream, I would suggest you do - it is a lovely, lovely film, with great performances. Conversely, I tried to read the book years ago but didn't get that far into it at the time.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2010 - 6:59 AM   
 By:   JohnF   (Member)

Wow... A true masterpiece. Thank to all involved... Just wondering in which track does the "Boat Chase" cue reside? Wonder why it is not it's own cue... Sounds fantastic.

 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2010 - 7:10 AM   
 By:   Dadid L   (Member)

Why choose one recording ?

The re-recording was a labor of love, and I very much like it, especially its profound "classical style" sound. Thanks to Intrada and Goldsmith about this one.

The original recording have its own merits, much more close miking, and it seems this edition sounds great.

Island in the stream is a true masterpiece, I need both CD.

 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2010 - 7:15 AM   
 By:   SheriffJoe   (Member)

GAH!! I had no idea this was coming...WOW!!

I would like to officially thank Mr. Kimmel's foresight and his love of music for being able to help make this a reality. This is one of Goldsmith's most heartfelt scores (and, for a long while, one of his admitted favorites...and who can blame him?) and a treasure to have the music as it was actually heard in the film is glorious.

So, yes, thank you to Lukas and FSM, as always. But thanks to Bruce as well. My thanks to the maestro himself, and to all the other artists who created this beautiful film, are as obvious as the day is long.

Joe

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2010 - 7:32 AM   
 By:   John McMasters   (Member)

A huge thank you to absolutely everyone involved. This was an immediate order (and I threw in some former Rozsa releases too).

 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2010 - 7:34 AM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)

I attended an orchestral (LSO?) performance of the Marlin cue years ago in London. Goldsmith nailed it far better than both the original and the rerecording. The music surged and billowed, and so did the composer himself - he was visibly swaying in sympathy with it. He really drew every ounce of emotion from the piece. Hair-raising stuff.

 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2010 - 7:44 AM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)

Ehhhh all this winging about the recording or something when a new version comes out is a bit silly IMO, be it a re release but remastered, a re recording of an original or an original when only a re recording existed previously, cf. Islands In The Stream.

You're imposing a general criticism on the response to a specific release (at least I think that's what you're trying to say). In this case the Intrada re-recording is flawed enough to justify the 'winging' (sic). The sound quality wasn't very good and intonation problems ruined the listening experience. What one can hear in the music is the potential for a great CD that I hope this original soundtrack will fulfill.

 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2010 - 7:49 AM   
 By:   JasonComerford   (Member)

One of my favorite Goldsmith scores. Man, I can't wait to get this. Truly one of my most-wanted over the years.

 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2010 - 8:00 AM   
 By:   Misanthropic Tendencies   (Member)

The sound quality wasn't very good and intonation problems ruined the listening experience.

Hmmm sounds fine to me.

 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2010 - 8:10 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

A Goldsmith score to a Frank Schaffner movie = A MUST HAVE! My credit card takes another hit. If Goldsmith releases in 2010 are anything like they were in '09, I'm going to have to really pay down the credit card.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2010 - 8:21 AM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

A Goldsmith score to a Frank Schaffner movie = A MUST HAVE! My credit card takes another hit. If Goldsmith releases in 2010 are anything like they were in '09, I'm going to have to really pay down the credit card.

Better start paying it down Rory.

James

 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2010 - 9:04 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I'm buying this watermelon!!!!

 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2010 - 9:40 AM   
 By:   Misanthropic Tendencies   (Member)

A Goldsmith score to a Frank Schaffner movie = A MUST HAVE! My credit card takes another hit. If Goldsmith releases in 2010 are anything like they were in '09, I'm going to have to really pay down the credit card.

Better start paying it down Rory.

James


I don't have a credit card. My philosophy is, if you can't afford something, don't buy it.

 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2010 - 9:40 AM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

Lovely cover image.
Any chance of a high-resolution reproduction of it for download? (Like the one Mark Ford shows above, without the text running over it?)

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2010 - 10:32 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

This is a great release for a number of reasons.
The first time I heard the music was while watching the film on TV and I loved it. That surging/ebbing theme reminded me of Herrmann's GHOST AND MRS MUIR, albeit Jerry-style.
I then aquired that strange LP boot that had about half the score on one side, and selections from REINCARNATION OF PETER PROUD on the other. I loved that LP and played it again and again.
Then, I heard/saw Jerry conduct the Marlin sequence live at the BBC Maida Vale studios, with the National Philharmonic, and the roof nearly blew off (or maybe that was Bronco Bustin' from WILD ROVERS...I can't remember....probably both!!).
I never bought the Intrada CD initially, because I had a problem with re-recordings of film soundtracks for a long time (still do, to some extent).
I ended up picking a copy up dirt cheap at a film fair, minus the cover/booklet. I spun it about twice and never bonded with it (no cover/booklet didn't help).
AND NOW!!!..my favourite label for soundtracks are putting it out...complete (yay), with great sound (yay), a Bob Peak cover and a booklet to die for (yay) and 5000 copies, so I can just add it to my next SAE order, without going into a SELL-OUT FRENZY !!!! (yay, yay and yay).
And people say living today sucks !!??

 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2010 - 11:08 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2010 - 11:34 AM   
 By:   Nick Haysom   (Member)

Odd that this apparently came out last month but no one mentioned it... confused Maybe it got lost amongst all the other releases?


As to people chucking their Intrada disc: what sort of Goldsmith fan are you? Given that it was his personal favourite score and he himself did the re-recording I'd think you ought to cherish it, whatever the performance or sound failings.

 
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