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This is a comments thread about FSM CD: Black Sunday
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2010 - 1:37 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

Now how about SPACECAMP?

Why not buy and enjoy this one first?


I have purchased it (I actually had a copy okay it was bootleg but it was the music) but I have a legit one now. But SPACECAMP is the only one I think from the 80's not released on CD.

I also want SUGARLAND EXPRESS and SECRET WAYS (1961).


Why not enjoy this one now?


I will enjoy and have but I still want the others. What is your problem?


You might ask yourself the same question. This thread is about BLACK SUNDAY- not what you want.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2010 - 1:39 PM   
 By:   TownerFan   (Member)

[Faints after reading the news]

[Wakes up and does the happy dance]

Whaaaa!!! Finally!! Definitely one of my holiest grail!! smile And the clips sound terrific!

Thanks FSM, Lukas & gang, you're really, really awesome!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2010 - 1:40 PM   
 By:   guest   (Member)


Now how about SPACECAMP?



I have purchased it (I actually had a copy okay it was bootleg but it was the music) but I have a legit one now. But SPACECAMP is the only one I think from the 80's not released on CD.

I also want SUGARLAND EXPRESS and SECRET WAYS (1961).



Can't answer your question about Spacecamp but according to Roger Feigelson @ Intrada, Williams has nixed a release of The Sugarland Express.

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2010 - 1:52 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

So what is exactly wrong with planning to buy this CD later? A Sale is a Sale right?

Nothing's wrong with it, per se, and Lukas wasn't chastising anybody who doesn't (or can't) order it this week. But many people here complain that very limited editions of popular scores pressure them into buying things before they can properly consider them, or afford them. Fair enough. But if that lack of pressure means people don't buy (which I doubt in this case), the experiment will suggest that smaller numbers goose sales and are a necessary evil.

And no, a sale isn't exactly a sale. If Lukas had to pay more upfront to get this number pressed, that's more money he has to earn back. If he took a loan to do it, the longer he takes to pay it back, the more interest he owes. If he just paid out of pocket, further expenses (read: future CDs) will have to be put on hold until the money comes in. So $20 in November is nice, but not the same as $20 in January.

Besides, some huge percentage of sales of any CD comes within the first few weeks of release. An actual insider here could give the proper figure, which I don't remember, but I know it's a very big chunk. People may well intend to buy something down the line, but newer and shinier releases get in the way, and often it never happens. There's nothing at all wrong with that -- you should spend your money however you choose, whenever you choose -- but it's just a fact.

So all Lukas is doing is giving us fair warning that he's gone out on a longer-than-usual limb on this one, so if it doesn't pay off, he's unlikely to do so again. Reasonable.

I don't mean to speak for Lukas, who can do so more articulately himself (and, by the way, have actual knowledge). Just answering the question in my usual long-winded way.

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2010 - 1:53 PM   
 By:   soop.broth   (Member)

A final note about this release: In recent years, a limited edition of this sort would sell out quickly. FSM has negotiated with the American Federation of Musicians (whose players performed the music and are due “re-use” fees for the album) to make this CD a limited edition of 10,000 copies (not the customary 3,000)—enough so that everyone can get one. But if your response to this is, “Good, I’ll get it later”—truly no good deed goes unpunished, and we’ll never try this again! Black Sunday is John Williams action scoring circa 1977—what are you waiting for? Buy it now!

This would be a lot easier to accommodate if I hadn't just placed an order for Islands In The Stream. This seems like an odd/unfair request considering the label released another title just a few days ago. SAE's shipping costs are pretty absurd for single discs, so unfortunately I'm going to have to put this off for a few weeks.

Combining announcements saves us shipping costs.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2010 - 1:56 PM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

So what is exactly wrong with planning to buy this CD later? A Sale is a Sale right?

Well if you sort of want it, but are not too bothered, why not wait. But if a disc comes out that I really want, I can't see the point of waiting, I order it & count the days. People do post here about missing out on a disc that's been out for a couple of years, I can never understand that.

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2010 - 1:58 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

A final note about this release: In recent years, a limited edition of this sort would sell out quickly. FSM has negotiated with the American Federation of Musicians (whose players performed the music and are due “re-use” fees for the album) to make this CD a limited edition of 10,000 copies (not the customary 3,000)—enough so that everyone can get one. But if your response to this is, “Good, I’ll get it later”—truly no good deed goes unpunished, and we’ll never try this again! Black Sunday is John Williams action scoring circa 1977—what are you waiting for? Buy it now!

This would be a lot easier to accommodate if I hadn't just placed an order for Islands In The Stream. This seems like an odd/unfair request considering the label released another title just a few days ago. SAE's shipping costs are pretty absurd for single discs, so unfortunately I'm going to have to put this off for a few weeks.

Combining announcements saves us shipping costs.


That, I believe, is a legitimate concern.

The days of shopping in a store are gone , at least as far as music goes. Those S&H fees add up- like 20-25%. PER ITEM!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2010 - 2:01 PM   
 By:   BobaMike   (Member)

Woohoo! Thanks FSM! I ordered this as soon as I saw the Facebook update from SAE smile

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2010 - 2:07 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

Did Williams give you some quotes and/or interview for this release? I hope he was able to help out!!

I hope so too Peter !

Anyway, 2010 begins in terrific ways...

Black Sunday, who could ask for anything more ? I mean, that would have been impossible since 1977... and look now, we have so many graals.

We really live great times ! Thanks so much FSM staff for this no more MIA score.



Well JW has a little more time now a-days since he's only scoring Steven's films.



If they are hand signed by JW, can mine say To Peter... I hope that's not too much to ask for! Also, can I have a letter of authenticity.

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2010 - 2:08 PM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

I just hope its still around for a few more weeks, as I dont have any money to order it at the mo! Mind you, if BTTF is still around.............does this mean that release is also likely to be 10,000, just of interest?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2010 - 2:21 PM   
 By:   adilson   (Member)

CONGRATULATIONS FSM FOR THIS GREAT TITLE !!!!!

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2010 - 2:25 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

I can assure any and all sundry, this is a LONG awaited soundtrack release. Like maybe 1/3 of of a Century awaited. But who's counting?

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2010 - 2:29 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)


If they are hand signed by JW, can mine say To Peter... I hope that's not too much to ask for! Also, can I have a letter of authenticity.


Dear Peter, I do not sign hands, but I will sign your CD cover if you click your heels three times and say, "There's no place like John." Oh, and I like cookies shaped like musical notes.

JW

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2010 - 2:33 PM   
 By:   RonBurbella   (Member)

SO ORDERED! Deepest thanks to Lukas and the FSM staff!

Scanning the above number of incontinent FSM posters had me thinking.

Having some insight into the Tsunami of heretofore unavailable film scores in the offing for 2010 and beyond, I heartily recommend that those of you with weak excretory functions invest in Depends (in bulk) or some such other adult sanitary products NOW! smile

They're going to be coming atcha one after another!!

Ron Burbella

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2010 - 2:35 PM   
 By:   rmos   (Member)

This was released just in the time for the Super Bowl®!

IIRC, I purchased my boot of the score (long ago) from Screen Archives. Now, I'm getting a legit copy from the same store! Amazing!

Thanks, FSM!

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2010 - 2:35 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

SO ORDERED! Deepest thanks to Lukas and the FSM staff!

Scanning the above number of incontinent FSM posters had me thinking.

Having some insight into the Tsunami of heretofore unavailable film scores in the offing for 2010 and beyond, I heartily recommend that those of you with weak excretory functions invest in Depends (in bulk) or some such other adult sanitary products NOW! smile

They're going to be coming atcha one after another!!

Ron Burbella


Just find them a way to constipate themselves.

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2010 - 2:42 PM   
 By:   Adam B.   (Member)

Too bad the film's special effects weren't as good looking as this CD's cover art. Well done.

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2010 - 2:42 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)


Scanning the above number of incontinent FSM posters had me thinking.

Having some insight into the Tsunami of heretofore unavailable film scores in the offing for 2010 and beyond, I heartily recommend that those of you with weak excretory functions invest in Depends (in bulk) or some such other adult sanitary products NOW! smile

They're going to be coming atcha one after another!!


Well, they should be "regular" from now on then, eh?

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2010 - 2:44 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

Wow! Wowee wow, wow!




Awesome news. And 10,000 copies?! eek Is this the largest-ever pressing for a limited release? I'd like to see the movie first, but the DVD is listed as a "long wait" on Netflix. frown Wow, prime, unreleased 70's Williams. big grin

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2010 - 3:04 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

Wow! Wowee wow, wow!




Awesome news. And 10,000 copies?! eek Is this the largest-ever pressing for a limited release? I'd like to see the movie first, but the DVD is listed as a "long wait" on Netflix. frown Wow, prime, unreleased 70's Williams. big grin


It reminds you of a younger composer, edgier- not stolid and uninteresting. It's vintage Williams, for sure.

 
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