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This is a comments thread about FSM CD: The Wonderful World of the Brothers Grimm/The Honeymoon Machine
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2020 - 2:09 PM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

It’s Official! Warner Archive will be releasing a restored Wonderful World of the Brothers Grimm next year. David Strohmaier gave some insight into what is going into the process at Home Theatre Forum, which I am including here:

Hello "Grimm" fans

A restored 4K “The Wonderful World of the Brothers Grimm” trailer has just been shown on the Cinerama louvered 146 degree screen last Sunday at the annual Widescreen Weekend Festival in Bradford, UK. This trailer is a 1961 original MGM five-minute pre-release announcement trailer that was reconstructed from 6-perf Cinerama negatives as well as a 7-channel magnetic soundtrack. (See below) This brings up the restoration efforts currently underway between Cinerama Inc. and Warner Bros. for the complete digital restoration of the roadshow version of what the original ads stated as ”The first Cinerama film to tell a story.” When this project is completed all the Cinerama 3-panel feature films will have been digitally restored.

Tom H. March and I enthusiastically decided to tackle this project since we were allowed to work out of our home offices as I now live in Eagle, Idaho and Tom lives in Calgary, Canada. This decision was made last November long before Covid-19 came on the scene. Tom and I have worked together on several of the Cinerama travelogues as well as “Windjammer” and 2 other non-Cinerama features over the past 6 years. Warner Bros. Motion Picture Imaging provided the expert scanning of the original 6-perf 3-panel o-negatives and Cinerama Inc. updated my home editing bay with new computers, monitors and appropriate software to accommodate such a 4K restoration.

Many who participate in this forum know that the “Grimm” elements had suffered damage due to some sort of a flood many years ago at MGM and until now there has been an understandable hesitancy to attempt such a digital restoration due to the great expense of dealing with these 3-panel films. Utilizing some new amazing software and much faster computers, it is possible to perform restoration miracles in your own home restoration/edit bay. At this point you might want to see my former comments (#20 in this thread) from back in 2018 called “The Grimm Truth about Brothers Grimm” to get an idea of the challenge we faced. Truth be told, and to my relief, I did not have to follow up with all of my former assumptions.

Fortunately, we found the negatives were in somewhat better condition than a 1994 inspection report seemed to indicate, however still problematic with the many damaged and worn areas. Digital restoration can allow a lot of flexibility that photo chemical or earlier digital work could never accomplish. We can now report that we have repaired all the damaged areas in “Grimm,” including compositing and aligning the 3 panels which now look quite stunning. For those who are very familiar with the 35mm CinemaScope version that has appeared on TCM, this restoration will appear like a completely different film as if it was shot yesterday. We also obtained some IB Technicolor frame clip samples from the Bradford UK print and we feel we can give the final film something very close to the Technicolor look that audiences originally saw back in 1962. Having done all the former Cinerama 1950s travelogues and dealing with their many grain problems, “Grimm” seems to have an almost grainless look to it now, other than some of the vintage 1961 opticals. Correcting some of the damage required several digital passes, that’s why our original composite assembly master (3 panels aligned and joined together) was in 6K so we could suffer multiple digital passes, however the actual restoration work is being done in 4K for speed and rendering efficiency. As with Warner Bros. “How the West Was Won” digital remastering back in 2008, the legendary Cinerama join lines are practically invisible with “Grimm” as well.

We are remastering the film in both letterbox and SmileBox formats for eventual Blu-ray and DVD release from the Warner Archive Collection sometime later in 2021. I noticed in earlier comments that someone believed Cinerama Inc. pressured WB to release “How the West Was Won” in SmileBox. That is simply untrue, Warner Bros. asked for SmileBox early in the game for the “West” release. Due to the stunning reviews and comments for the “West” release, they clearly indicated to me, the SmileBox was a big part of that success as well as the inclusion of my documentary “Cinerama Adventure.” The only thing Cinerama Inc. ever required of a distributor was that Flicker Alley release the original travelogues in SmileBox in order to be more faithful to the original roadshow releases. It was I who insisted on adding the Cinerama Dome curtains to recreate as close as possible the original roadshow presentations for the home video release. FYI all the 1950s travelogues I have done exist in both straight SmileBox, SmileBox with curtains, and Letterbox digital masters. “Grimm” will grace the Cinerama Dome screen in Hollywood sometime next year before the eventual home video release. Since the project started last November, I have to say it has been a real pleasure working with Cinerama’s Jim Vandever and the Warner Bros. people such as George Feltenstein, Steven Anastasi and Craig Johnson. They are as thrilled as Tom and I to see it finally coming to fruition. A 15 to 20 minute documentary is also being planned about this restoration by award winning documentary filmmaker, Harrison Engle, to include interviews with the team and several before and after examples explaining in layman's terms how the project was accomplished.


https://www.hometheaterforum.com/community/threads/my-2-cents-worth-on-brothers-grimm.358328/page-25

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2020 - 2:18 PM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

Great news! This is one film that I never thought would get restored, & a Smile Box version too. I never did see this at the cinema & I think I've only seen it once on TV decades ago. I'll certainly be buying the Blu-ray smile

...& maybe there's a chance for Around The World In 80 Days now.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2020 - 12:37 PM   
 By:   tiomkinfan   (Member)

Great news! I hope you can go on to lend the Smilebox magic to the Todd-AO films. Thanks for your dedication and unwavering support for these projects.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2020 - 10:52 PM   
 By:   RonBurbella   (Member)

I'm thrilled to read this restoration news.

I saw this film in Cinerama in New York City in its initial run and both the score and the film were well done. You never can tell what restoration miracles lie in the future.

Ron Burbella

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2021 - 1:29 PM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

A trailer (in letterbox and smilebox versions) and comparison video can be found in the link below to wet everyone’s appetite for the new restoration:

https://www.in70mm.com/news/2021/grimm/index.htm

 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2022 - 4:35 PM   
 By:   NSBulk   (Member)

Now if only this movie would come out on Blu Ray... in smilebox format...

Here you go!

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B09R6VTNNV/?coliid=IHRCI2YPMO89L&colid=B1VIFRE5NUH7&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 28, 2022 - 12:06 PM   
 By:   eriknelson   (Member)

I watched the smilebox version on TCM last evening, along with an interesting documentary about how the restoration was accomplished. Man, they had to do a lot of work! It looks and sounds as good or better than it did in the theatre. I have vague memories of seeing it in Cinerama in Denver when I was a tyke.

Now, after hearing Merrill and Harline's great score, I only wish I had purchased the FSM CD when it came out. The only copy I can find is on eBay for about $90. Ouch.

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2023 - 8:25 AM   
 By:   Josh   (Member)

I'm looking to purchase a copy of this set after regrettably selling mine years ago.

I've already checked discogs, ebay, etc. but the currently listings are way out of my league.

If anyone is willing to sell, please email me (address in profile).

Thanks!

Josh

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2023 - 1:52 PM   
 By:   JThree   (Member)

I watched the smilebox version on TCM last evening, along with an interesting documentary about how the restoration was accomplished. Man, they had to do a lot of work! It looks and sounds as good or better than it did in the theatre. I have vague memories of seeing it in Cinerama in Denver when I was a tyke.

Now, after hearing Merrill and Harline's great score, I only wish I had purchased the FSM CD when it came out. The only copy I can find is on eBay for about $90. Ouch.


That's nothing. One CD soundtrack I missed out on (Superman Animated ) is now several hundred dollars.

==jthree

 
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