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This is a comments thread about FSM CD: Gremlins
 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 5:59 PM   
 By:   Moonie   (Member)

Ordered without hesitation , YES!!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 6:03 PM   
 By:   paul rossen   (Member)

I suppose this puts a kibosh on thinking (as some did) that Gremlins would be FSM CD 250.

Apart from that: CONGRATULATIONS and THANK YOU to all involved with the Gremlins CD.

Ordered (as well as a heap of Williams stuff) from bsx.

Now riddle-me riddle-me dee, what score will the last FSM CD be? big grin


I thought that everyone knew the answer to your question. The 250th CD will be.....Bernstein's The Ten Commandments. 'So let it be written so let it be done!'

Of course this is just a guess.

 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 6:15 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I suppose this puts a kibosh on thinking (as some did) that Gremlins would be FSM CD 250.

Apart from that: CONGRATULATIONS and THANK YOU to all involved with the Gremlins CD.

Ordered (as well as a heap of Williams stuff) from bsx.

Now riddle-me riddle-me dee, what score will the last FSM CD be? big grin


My money is on Ben-Hur: the complete film recordings (three discs with alternates on the third disc), plus probably two discs for the three LP recordings (one of which has never been released on CD). This is from the online liner notes to the Rozsa box (emphasis mine):
"What to say about Rózsa’s magnum opus for this legendary film starring Charlton Heston? The original soundtrack was never released until a 2CD set issued by Rhino in 1994 (Rhino Movie Music R2 72197), but no less than three LP re-recordings were made around the time of the film. The first was recorded in Rome with an orchestra and chorus conducted by Carlo Savina and timed to coincide with the film’s release; it became a best-seller for MGM Records. Two follow-up LPs were recorded in Nuremberg, Germany and credited to the “Frankenland State Symphony Orchestra Conducted by Erich Kloss”; although Kloss was a real conductor, having made an LP of Rózsa concert music for MGM Records in 1958, Rózsa later admitted he himself led the orchestra. The first was a carbon-copy of the Savina LP (minus the chorus) and was issued on “Lion,” the company’s budget label; surviving copies are relatively rare. The second was the better-known More Music From Ben-Hur (released in 1961), featuring new content. The Savina album and second “Kloss” album have been released on CD (most notably combined on Sony Music Special Products A2K 47020/21) but not the first “Kloss” LP. Some additional alternates and outtakes from the film soundtrack sessions have yet to be released and for licensing reasons were not available for inclusion on this box set, but will hopefully be made available in the future. Original soundtrack pre-recordings made May 25, 1959. Score recorded June 29, 30, July 1, 14, 15, August 4, 5, 6, 13, 14, 18, and October 9, 1959. Additional recordings made in Rome, Italy; dates and venue unknown."
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/notes/rozsa_at_mgm.html

And in a recent post Lukas said this:
"My obsession to release every last Rózsa M-G-M note eventually became the 15-disc Miklós Rózsa Treasury."
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/daily/article.cfm/articleID/6728/FSM-Catalog—Low-Quantities-Report-Part-4-CD-Vol.-7-2004/

I think the chances are that Lukas's obsession has not fully been sated until a truly definitive Ben-Hur comes out, and what better or more fitting final release could FSM have for #250?

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 6:22 PM   
 By:   paul rossen   (Member)

I suppose this puts a kibosh on thinking (as some did) that Gremlins would be FSM CD 250.

Apart from that: CONGRATULATIONS and THANK YOU to all involved with the Gremlins CD.

Ordered (as well as a heap of Williams stuff) from bsx.

Now riddle-me riddle-me dee, what score will the last FSM CD be? big grin


My money is on Ben-Hur: the complete film recordings (three discs with alternates on the third disc), plus probably two discs for the three LP recordings (one of which has never been released on CD). This is from the online liner notes to the Rozsa box (emphasis mine):
"What to say about Rózsa’s magnum opus for this legendary film starring Charlton Heston? The original soundtrack was never released until a 2CD set issued by Rhino in 1994 (Rhino Movie Music R2 72197), but no less than three LP re-recordings were made around the time of the film. The first was recorded in Rome with an orchestra and chorus conducted by Carlo Savina and timed to coincide with the film’s release; it became a best-seller for MGM Records. Two follow-up LPs were recorded in Nuremberg, Germany and credited to the “Frankenland State Symphony Orchestra Conducted by Erich Kloss”; although Kloss was a real conductor, having made an LP of Rózsa concert music for MGM Records in 1958, Rózsa later admitted he himself led the orchestra. The first was a carbon-copy of the Savina LP (minus the chorus) and was issued on “Lion,” the company’s budget label; surviving copies are relatively rare. The second was the better-known More Music From Ben-Hur (released in 1961), featuring new content. The Savina album and second “Kloss” album have been released on CD (most notably combined on Sony Music Special Products A2K 47020/21) but not the first “Kloss” LP. Some additional alternates and outtakes from the film soundtrack sessions have yet to be released and for licensing reasons were not available for inclusion on this box set, but will hopefully be made available in the future. Original soundtrack pre-recordings made May 25, 1959. Score recorded June 29, 30, July 1, 14, 15, August 4, 5, 6, 13, 14, 18, and October 9, 1959. Additional recordings made in Rome, Italy; dates and venue unknown."
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/notes/rozsa_at_mgm.html

And in a recent post Lukas said this:
"My obsession to release every last Rózsa M-G-M note eventually became the 15-disc Miklós Rózsa Treasury."
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/daily/article.cfm/articleID/6728/FSM-Catalog—Low-Quantities-Report-Part-4-CD-Vol.-7-2004/

I think the chances are that Lukas's obsession has not fully been sated until a truly definitive Ben-Hur comes out, and what better or more fitting final release could FSM have for #250?

Yavar


The problem with such a Ben-Hur release is that it would be a 'box' set and Lukas
has already said he is
not releasing any new boxed 'sets'. That is not to say a 3 disc version isn't coming with the first 2 discs from the original soundtrack properly edited, complete and in better sound(than the Rhino version) with a 3rd disc devoted to alternative takes etc including the unused entr'acte. This is all probably wishful thinking in any case...

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 6:29 PM   
 By:   Martin Williams   (Member)

I couldn't wait to jump online after I got out of work. Ordered!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 6:59 PM   
 By:   captain_avis   (Member)

I suppose this puts a kibosh on thinking (as some did) that Gremlins would be FSM CD 250.

Apart from that: CONGRATULATIONS and THANK YOU to all involved with the Gremlins CD.

Ordered (as well as a heap of Williams stuff) from bsx.

Now riddle-me riddle-me dee, what score will the last FSM CD be? big grin


Frankly, FSM releasing Gremlins is fantastic enough already. But, if I had to hope for one more grail amongst the final, what, 7 or 8 CDs it would be an expanded ST:TMP. Pretty please....

 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 7:00 PM   
 By:   Josh Mitchell   (Member)

Well done, chaps!


 
 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 7:02 PM   
 By:   captain_avis   (Member)



The problem with such a Ben-Hur release is that it would be a 'box' set and Lukas
has already said he is
not releasing any new boxed 'sets'. That is not to say a 3 disc version isn't coming with the first 2 discs from the original soundtrack properly edited, complete and in better sound(than the Rhino version) with a 3rd disc devoted to alternative takes etc including the unused entr'acte. This is all probably wishful thinking in any case...


Depends on how you define box set. If by boxset, you count a single score release on >2 disks (a la Mutiny on the Bounty) then it looks like a no. But if you restrict a boxset to mean "smorgasboard of scores" on >2 disks, then it's possible...

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 7:16 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

And just in time for Christmas (though by a month early)!

 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 7:16 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I don't think Lukas intended to rule out the smaller sets, but only meant he wasn't doing any more "FSM BOX X"s (ie. the five big boxes that had "BOX" in their catalogue number. I believe that several 3-5 disc sets have come out since he said he wasn't doing box sets any more. I really think Ben-Hur is going to be it (but I'd be happy for it to be Ten Commandments too!)

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 7:19 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)


Frankly, FSM releasing Gremlins is fantastic enough already. But, if I had to hope for one more grail amongst the final, what, 7 or 8 CDs it would be an expanded ST:TMP. Pretty please....


I'd be LaLaLand gets that one eventually, though it sounds like there may still be some issues to work out licensing-wise. Still -- don't forget it was them who did STV (like TMP also Sony/Columbia for the original album), albeit with Lukas and Jeff's help. I find it unlikely that it would be one of the last FSM releases since they didn't do The Final Frontier.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 7:21 PM   
 By:   That Bloke   (Member)

My money is on Ben-Hur: the complete film recordings (three discs with alternates on the third disc), plus probably two discs for the three LP recordings (one of which has never been released on CD)...

...I think the chances are that Lukas's obsession has not fully been sated until a truly definitive Ben-Hur comes out, and what better or more fitting final release could FSM have for #250?

Yavar


This makes sense, and thank you for backing up your assertions. The only thing I would say that could counter the possibility of such a release is that the earlier releases may still be out there on the market and selling. Can the market sustain another release? Or does Lukas's passion for Rosza's work outweigh market considerations? Will he put this out on another label?

I have about 5 Ben Hur releases on CD, (including the Rhino) and would still welcome what FSM would do with it, but how many of me are out there who would buy a 6th version of the score (albeit one given the Kendall/Matessino treatment)?

Assuming Ben Hur isn't it, then Ten Commandments or ST:TMP would be apt as a send off. I would love more FSM Williams (Hook?) but after the Nightwatch release and only 7 more FSM releases left, I'm willing to say we've seen the last FSM Williams.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 7:40 PM   
 By:   Eugene Iemola   (Member)

Recession/ What recession?

 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 8:42 PM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

Today is History! Well done Lukas & SAE team. This will be a day long remembered. FSM is back with a Vengence! Yes. wooho!. My electric order placement is on its way!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 8:47 PM   
 By:   RonBurbella   (Member)

This long-anticipated score release has had a lot of unusual adjectives used to describe it over the years.

Look at the FSM/SAE promo blurb: raucous, funky, off-kilter, outrageous, pulse-pounding.

All of these offbeat, quirky, out-of-the-ordinary qualities in the music have endeared this score to its fans, including me.

And when Jerry conducted the full orchestral "Gremlins Suite" in concert, both the audience and the orchestra would very obviously have a good time.

For completeness sake and for comparison purposes, I kind of wish FSM could have found a way to include that orchestral suite as a bonus cue in this CD.

But it's a MOST welcome release. Thanks guys.

Ron Burbella

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 8:52 PM   
 By:   ScottDS   (Member)

Well, it won't be Star Trek: TMP.

Lukas mentioned this in the "As we count down..." thread:

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=84231&forumID=1&archive=0

Actually, I was going to post that these latest two are our last respective Goldsmith and Williams albums. It's been fun! (And Quincy Jones.)

Lukas

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 8:59 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

Very wise of Lukas to make this unlimited it appears so far, reading this thread it looks like Macy's 9am, doors opening on 34th street in New York City.

 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 9:02 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

Very wise of Lukas to make this unlimited it appears so far, reading this thread it looks like Macy's 9am, doors opening on 34th street in New York City.

Yeah, with women fighting over bras and girdles in the unmentionables department

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 9:09 PM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

It may be the last Goldsmith from FSM, but it won't be the last Goldsmith release ever... smile Bring it on!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 9:54 PM   
 By:   Yen Fai   (Member)

Is this the first time the original Gremlins mini album has seen a CD release in the US? I do have it on CD but I believe it was a German import. (And I don't mind buying it again one bit for the complete score!)

 
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