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This is a comments thread about FSM CD: Ben-Hur
 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2012 - 2:26 PM   
 By:   lexedo   (Member)

I suppose I'll have to live with the Rhino release.

I've got you LeHah. It's been pre-ordered, and will be delivered to my office, which is in NJ. (I did one for me, and one for you.) You can either accept it is a gift, or pay me back whenever it is good for you.

Drop me a note w the same fsm id on aol w your contact info, and this will get to you when it is formally released. You in the US dude?

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2012 - 2:39 PM   
 By:   Dr. Lao   (Member)

Thanks, Lukas.

Ordered BEN-HUR plus some orchestral works composed by Rozsa.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2012 - 2:41 PM   
 By:   paul rossen   (Member)

Lukas,
The definitive Ben-Hur! The samples sound wonderful. Much better than the Rhino. Beautiful production(as expected).

Thank you for being the 'champion' for Miklos Rozsa and all his wonderful music.

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2012 - 2:41 PM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

oh dear. WHO said they were previously unrecorded?


I did. And many others who researched the material and the cue-cards thoroughly. Shall we order a lynching party? How dare they not know? How dare they not have worked for major studios? They're inferior beings.

How dare they not know that the Lion album is mostly re-issues of the Savina? But... wait a minute .... it ISN'T. Oh dear. WHO told them that?

I'm guessing you had recordings of things like the spec 'Haroun al Rozsad' etc. in your garage.

Everyone knows about the boots and the MRSSS tapes. They don't cover all that's here, and the forensics and hunting to find this material ought not to be denigrated.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2012 - 2:47 PM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

The samples sound wonderful. Much better than the Rhino.

Yes, I'm sure the audio will improve on the Rhino. But can one judge from an .mp3?

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2012 - 2:57 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

I suppose I'll have to live with the Rhino release.

I've got you LeHah. It's been pre-ordered, and will be delivered to my office, which is in NJ. (I did one for me, and one for you.) You can either accept it is a gift, or pay me back whenever it is good for you.



 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2012 - 3:01 PM   
 By:   sprocket   (Member)

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 Posted:   Feb 16, 2012 - 3:15 PM   
 By:   David-R.   (Member)

Boy, this looks amazing. Me want! Me have to wait for funds, though! frown

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2012 - 3:57 PM   
 By:   Jon Lewis   (Member)


Lukas - Is there no chance of a box set a la Herrmann Concert Suites of Rozsa's 1970s re-recordings before you go?

This really is an urgent gap to be filled, and it would only require 2 CDs. I have a feeling Australian Eloquence (a division of Universal with a much more robust reissue program than their other divisions) might do it. They released the Rosza Phase 4s recently, and released a lot of Herrmann Phase 4s as well.

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2012 - 4:06 PM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

Lukas - Is there no chance of a box set a la Herrmann Concert Suites of Rozsa's 1970s re-recordings before you go?

This really is an urgent gap to be filled, and it would only require 2 CDs. I have a feeling Australian Eloquence (a division of Universal with a much more robust reissue program than their other divisions) might do it. They released the Rosza Phase 4s recently, and released a lot of Herrmann Phase 4s as well.


The three (1975, 1976 and 1977) Polydor recordings at Abbey Road in London were concurrently reissued (the 1975 and 1977 LPs only) by Deutsche Grammophon. Today their ownership is a big question:

Wikipedia: "In 1998, PolyGram was purchased by Seagram and absorbed into its Universal Music Group. During the consolidation of these two music giants, Polydor's US operations were dismantled into Interscope-Geffen-A&M, while its overseas branch remained intact with its records continuing to be distributed domestically through Interscope and A&M. However, North American re-issues of pre-1998 Polydor pop/rock releases are handled through Mercury Records. Today, in America, the Polydor Records name and logo is mostly used on reissues of older material from its 1960s and 1970s heyday."

They were sonically astounding recordings, impeccably played by the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra. In the assessment of Rozsa's music assistant Christopher Palmer: "The three historic ‘RÓZSA CONDUCTS RÓZSA’ albums are particularly valuable since they preserve the composer’s own authoritative interpretation of his music.”

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2012 - 4:17 PM   
 By:   Gary S.   (Member)

To answer a question: no, we will not be repressing this after the 2000 copies sell out. We have, I think more than any of the other labels, tried to press our titles in sufficient quantities and as a result have over-pressed more often than not...and we're sitting on stock that costs money to store.

I think that a title this high-profile would be re-licensed to another label so as not to go off the market. But that's not something I have any control over.

Lukas



I'm doing my share to reduce your stock as money becomes available. My order with Ben Hur included Joy in The Morning, Goodbye, Mr. Chips, On Dangerous Ground and The Thing.

How could I not order this release when I have every other disc Lukas and company have released by Miklos Rozsa, one of my favorite composers. What do you expect from someone who has posted in the past that my college graduation processional and recessional in 1976 were to wind ensemble transcriptions of Parade of the Charioteers and the Entry into Rome from Quo Vadis. Who needs Elgar. smile

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2012 - 4:26 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Sigerson Holmes took the words (image?) out of my mouth. I am not sure what I have done to find such generosity from you, sir, but I am deeply moved and in your debt.

You will find I will pay you back at the earliest moment I have.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2012 - 4:35 PM   
 By:   Jon Lewis   (Member)

I guess we should stop talking about the Polydor Rozsa Trilogy since there are already threads dedicated to those. But one of us might want to write to Australian Eloquence about it. They are run by a fellow named Cyrus Meher-Homji. There was an article about him in Fanfare a few years ago:

I asked him about repertoire choices. Cyrus is guided by feedback from collectors (of which he gets a lot) and, as a longtime collector himself, has an acute awareness of gaps in the catalog that might be filled, not only in terms of repertoire but particular artists as well. A large number of Eloquence releases are CD premieres. Once he has compiled his wish list, he sends it to Universal headquarters for approval. They may say no if recordings are about to be reissued in some other series, and occasionally contractual obligations with the original artist preclude reissues or are difficult to work out. When a recording has not had a recent CD release (or hasn’t been silvered at all) Cyrus works from the master-tapes.

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2012 - 4:44 PM   
 By:   JackBlu78   (Member)

i hope there are copies left by Next Friday, I have a Madonna ticket to buy this Tuesday and that is gonna cost me a an arm and a leg literally.

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2012 - 4:46 PM   
 By:   Moonie   (Member)

i hope there are copies left by Next Friday, I have a Madonna ticket to buy this Tuesday and that is gonna cost me a an arm and a leg literally.


I think ide pass on Madonna for this

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2012 - 4:50 PM   
 By:   John-73   (Member)

Damn I absolutely cannot afford this...

Ordered! razz

(this is going to hurt financially- but the thousands of hours I will spend listening to this one will offset that!).

Thanks to Lukas and team for this gem smile

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2012 - 4:51 PM   
 By:   JackBlu78   (Member)

I think i'd pass on Madonna for this

Sorry been a fan since I was about 10 years old and this is my first chance to see a live show.

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2012 - 4:54 PM   
 By:   Moonie   (Member)

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 Posted:   Feb 16, 2012 - 4:55 PM   
 By:   Moonie   (Member)

I think i'd pass on Madonna for this

Sorry been a fan since I was about 10 years old and this is my first chance to see a live show.



I liked her earlier stuff more, her Super Bowl show was good didnt care for the Rap Hip Hop stuff , to each his own smile

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2012 - 4:57 PM   
 By:   Moonie   (Member)

\ Sorry not sure how that happened smile

 
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