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 Posted:   Oct 6, 2014 - 3:17 PM   
 By:   Mike Skerritt   (Member)

Williams told an audience at a concert in Milwaukee that he was set to begin work on EPISODE VII in two weeks.

Link: http://makingstarwars.net/2014/10/john-williams-begins-work-star-wars-episode-vii-2-weeks/

 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2014 - 5:10 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Well, if the maestro is called upon to be the film's official composer I still think Giacchino will have familiarised himself with every energetic cue from the best musically diverse sequences from the originals. In other words, any itch Mr Williams feels could theoretically be scratched by Mr Giacchino - a probable case of a stout heart and young mind - in both cases the opportunity of a lifetime.

 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2014 - 6:14 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Giacchino has said he'd rather have a new John Williams score than having to write it himself.

https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/michael-giacchino-wants-john-williams-score-star-wars-201100058.html

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2014 - 6:25 PM   
 By:   connorb93   (Member)

Back in 2011 at Symphony Hall in Boston, Williams said "There are talks of a new Star Wars film in the works. Now I haven't been lifting any weights...but I am eating my wheaties"

The crowd went NUTS! smile

 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2014 - 6:39 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

That wasn't 2011 - Disney hadn't even bought LucasFilm yet back then!

It was last June that was said: http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=22882&p=909330

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2014 - 6:45 PM   
 By:   connorb93   (Member)

That wasn't 2011 - Disney hadn't even bought LucasFilm yet back then!

It was last June that was said: http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=22882&p=909330



I'm talking about a concert of his I went to in 2011. News about a new Star Wars had just broken out and Williams was giving a maybe/maybe not as to his involvement

 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2014 - 6:52 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

I rather have Han Zimmer do it.

 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2014 - 7:55 PM   
 By:   johnmullin   (Member)

Well, if the maestro is called upon to be the film's official composer I still think Giacchino will have familiarised himself with every energetic cue from the best musically diverse sequences from the originals. In other words, any itch Mr Williams feels could theoretically be scratched by Mr Giacchino - a probable case of a stout heart and young mind - in both cases the opportunity of a lifetime.

Um... huh? Are you saying that John Williams should hire extra personal security or something?

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2014 - 8:38 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

I think it is about time for John Williams to retire. He has been there done that, need some new blood to infuse that film with some fresh originality.

 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2014 - 9:42 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Somehow I think that if someone said that about Goldsmith in regards to the TNG films, you wouldn't necessarily agree with them?

I for one am very excited to hear what Williams comes up with. I thought his TinTin score showed that old 70s/80s adventure spark and with a sufficiently inspiring film (gotta be better than the prequels!) I feel pretty sure he can do a great job.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2014 - 2:47 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

This isn't Lucasfilm, it's Disney. It's not unusual for them to have had collaborative teams working the music. I know this would typically be in the form of a composer and lyricist, however, that combi can be worked to suit the corporation's requirements - whatever they may be. In the past those collaborative efforts have produced very commercial, if not award winning bodies of work. Just a thought, of course. wink

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2014 - 4:07 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Somehow I think that if someone said that about Goldsmith in regards to the TNG films, you wouldn't necessarily agree with them?

I for one am very excited to hear what Williams comes up with. I thought his TinTin score showed that old 70s/80s adventure spark and with a sufficiently inspiring film (gotta be better than the prequels!) I feel pretty sure he can do a great job.

Yavar


Not a good analogy. Goldsmith was in his prime. I prefer they give it to someone else like Powell, Shore, Doyle. Someone that can still do grand.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2014 - 5:50 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

With Lucas' attention turning more to sound and visual effects, the Star Wars music became secondary beginning with the mix in the special editions . This was worst in Episode where 4 the music was in some cases just buried under new effects where before it was way up front in the mix. The prequels didn't give the music much time to shine either. Abrams seems to be much more favorable to scoring, he always gives Giacchino a good mix, so my feeling is he'll spotlight the music much more than Lucas did, and probably give Williams more inspiration to compose something memorable.

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2014 - 6:27 AM   
 By:   Mike Skerritt   (Member)

More than anything else I'm looking forward to Williams getting a chance to spot a STAR WARS film without Lucas calling the shots. The prequels were ridiculously oversaturated with music (I won't say overscored because a lot of the end result was due to the music editing) - it seemed like every single walk-and-talk was accompanied by some generic, unnecessary flourish of score. So I'm very curious to see how Abrams and Williams approach the project from that standpoint.

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2014 - 6:33 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)



That wasn't 2011 - Disney hadn't even bought LucasFilm yet back then!

It was last June that was said: http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=22882&p=909330



I'm talking about a concert of his I went to in 2011. News about a new Star Wars had just broken out and Williams was giving a maybe/maybe not as to his involvement



I'm sorry connorb93 , but you're just empirically wrong. Disney bought Lucasfilm and announced Star Wars 7 in October of 2012, and it was the June 2013 concerts at Symphony Hall in Boston that Williams made the Wheaties joke. I'm sure it feels like longer ago, but it wasn't!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2014 - 8:10 AM   
 By:   CitizenJoe   (Member)

I think it is about time for John Williams to retire. He has been there done that, need some new blood to infuse that film with some fresh originality.

I prefer they give it to someone else like Powell, Shore, Doyle. Someone that can still do grand.

I will never understand the need to trash excellent composers for absolutely no reason at all.

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2014 - 9:03 AM   
 By:   johnmullin   (Member)

You said it, CitizenJoe!

Every time 'Star Wars' is mentioned, it seems that several people come out with bizarre, unfounded fantasies about how John Williams will be somehow incapacitated or dead and that someone else (nearly always Michael Giacchino) will need to come in to take the movie over.

The other comment you often see is similar to the one above: That since Williams is, by his own admission, no longer 35, he needs to be put out on an ice floe and released into Los Angeles harbor, having proved, in accordance with Eskimo tradition, that he is no longer a useful member of society.

What the hell is this about? I think we just need to assume that Williams is in good health - with all his limbs attached, and completely free of all debilitating illness, terminal or otherwise - until he holds some kind of press conference and tells us otherwise.

The man's a living legend and Star Wars is his baby... If the producers want him and he wants to do it, what's wrong with him continuing to revisit his signature work?

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2014 - 9:20 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

I think it is about time for John Williams to retire. He has been there done that, need some new blood to infuse that film with some fresh originality.

I prefer they give it to someone else like Powell, Shore, Doyle. Someone that can still do grand.

I will never understand the need to trash excellent composers for absolutely no reason at all.


I hardly take either quote as "trashing" JW.

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2014 - 9:27 AM   
 By:   Mike Skerritt   (Member)

You said it, CitizenJoe!

Every time 'Star Wars' is mentioned, it seems that several people come out with bizarre, unfounded fantasies about how John Williams will be somehow incapacitated or dead and that someone else (nearly always Michael Giacchino) will need to come in to take the movie over.

The other comment you often see is similar to the one above: That since Williams is, by his own admission, no longer 35, he needs to be put out on an ice floe and released into Los Angeles harbor, having proved, in accordance with Eskimo tradition, that he is no longer a useful member of society.

What the hell is this about? I think we just need to assume that Williams is in good health - with all his limbs attached, and completely free of all debilitating illness, terminal or otherwise - until he holds some kind of press conference and tells us otherwise.

The man's a living legend and Star Wars is his baby... If the producers want him and he wants to do it, what's wrong with him continuing to revisit his signature work?


Absolutely. Further to that, while I guess any number of things could keep him from the physical rigors of conducting, there's no reason he can't keep writing scores until his dying day. If anything, the mental and physical work of composing and conducting is probably one reason he's in such great health at 82. Hell, Clint Eastwood is 84 and still making big movies. We should be so lucky to find careers that compel us into keeping active well beyond what anyone else would say is viable.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2014 - 9:48 AM   
 By:   theMaestraX   (Member)

Excellent news & expected! John Williams IS the composer for the job & I
wouldn't want anyone else doing it! Hopefully he'll introduce new themes into the mix!
June 2013 was when the wheaties joke was mentioned - I know, I was there!

 
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