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 Posted:   Aug 3, 2009 - 3:12 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

I'm betting I'm seeing the movie first before seeing an answer from Varese wink

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2009 - 5:59 AM   
 By:   bondo321   (Member)

Anyone else care to weigh-in on the score itself? Seems like it hasn't really gotten much attention, especially compared to his last Stephen Sommers' scores.

 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2009 - 8:47 AM   
 By:   Gold Digger   (Member)

Anyone else care to weigh-in on the score itself? Seems like it hasn't really gotten much attention, especially compared to his last Stephen Sommers' scores.

It's lots of fun, typically muscular for a Silvestri action score. Lots of traditional Silvestri military percussion and brass. Superb Silvestri motifs add to the fab action cues. The rock synth elements appear now and again but add to the driving tempo without ever sounding like Media Ventures. One of the few albums I have wanted to play more than once. Though I have now exhausted it I think so need a break from it. Waiting to hear if we will get a replacement disc now.

 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2009 - 10:37 AM   
 By:   T.J. Turner   (Member)

If Varese will respond, I have a feeling that they will handle the problem like they did with Arabian Nights. That is, there will be no announcement, no recall from store shelves. The customer must contact them directly and they will handle it on a case by case bases.

If the Movie comes out and tanks (which it will), theres no way Varese's doing a international recall.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2009 - 10:54 AM   
 By:   Michael24   (Member)

If the Movie comes out and tanks (which it will), theres no way Varese's doing a international recall.

Just wait. Initial reviews have been pretty positive so far, with some naysayers changing their minds and saying it was indeed better than they expected. LatinoReview.com, AintItCoolNews, even RottenTomatoes (which I normally never care for), have had good reviews. It certainly looks pretty good, and interviews I've seen with Stephen Sommers show him demonstrating much more knowledge of the Joe universe than the Internet movie haters would have you believe.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2009 - 11:30 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)


If the Movie comes out and tanks (which it will), theres no way Varese's doing a international recall.


Of course it will have tanks. Boats and airo-planes too.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2009 - 2:35 PM   
 By:   Synclave   (Member)

Just wait. Initial reviews have been pretty positive so far, with some naysayers changing their minds and saying it was indeed better than they expected. LatinoReview.com, AintItCoolNews, even RottenTomatoes (which I normally never care for), have had good reviews. It certainly looks pretty good, and interviews I've seen with Stephen Sommers show him demonstrating much more knowledge of the Joe universe than the Internet movie haters would have you believe.

The only film critics on the planet who haven't been barred from reviewing G.I. Joe before its release are web-only scifi fanboy reviewers. This so Paramount can inflate its Tomatometer to 80% for opening weekend in a desperate ploy to recoup something before the general public gets wind of its stinker. If it's so great why won't they let an adult at the Post or the Times review it too as well as JoBlo's Movie Emporium?

Having said that, got the CD today. Not bad. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2009 - 6:52 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

Man, this is the nerd dilemma of '09....I managed to hear this score and love
it - it's like Silvestri's greatest hits, and never a dull moment - even the hokey
electric guitars made me smile. Sure, he's putting one foot in MV Remote Land
here, but as a hater of most things new and Zimmy, I really like this one, a rare
example of current albums I've actually made it through more than once and
enjoyed....and it's fantastic to work out with!!! Too bad Silvestri didn't get
Transformers and that other guy this one.....

Now, the bad thing is having to hold off buying it since I want to see how
this Varese mastering thing is going to play out....probably not in our favor,
but yes it sounds like crap in many parts. A real shame, another smudge on
VS's non-existent customer service, since we do and will keep buying their
records and complaining until.......

 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2009 - 7:46 PM   
 By:   Silence Is Golden   (Member)

Man, this is the nerd dilemma of '09....I managed to hear this score and love
it - it's like Silvestri's greatest hits, and never a dull moment - even the hokey
electric guitars made me smile. Sure, he's putting one foot in MV Remote Land
here, but as a hater of most things new and Zimmy, I really like this one, a rare
example of current albums I've actually made it through more than once and
enjoyed....and it's fantastic to work out with!!! Too bad Silvestri didn't get
Transformers and that other guy this one.....

Now, the bad thing is having to hold off buying it since I want to see how
this Varese mastering thing is going to play out....probably not in our favor,
but yes it sounds like crap in many parts. A real shame, another smudge on
VS's non-existent customer service, since we do and will keep buying their
records and complaining until.......


....until we start a petition or send enough emails to jam up their email boxes to see if Varese will rectify the problem or give everyone a straight answer to so what they're planning to do. Only then, will they listen. I got the album anyway since it was on sale at Best Buy for 12.99 at least for this week. We'll see what happens, great score indeed!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2009 - 8:37 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

Yeah, I'm not sure on all the hate with this. It's not the best thing ever, but it's fun and has a couple of VERY hum-along-able moments, plus a lot of great percussive writing.

But...why must companies continue to fuck things up like this?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2009 - 12:45 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

I'm seeing the movie in 4 hours. Will post a nerdy soundtrackfan review when I get back.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2009 - 8:22 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

Ok, just came back from seeing it and I'm still processing it lol. Let me start off by saying that as an action flick, this has some of the best chase/flying/underwater battles I have ever seen. More than half of this movie is non stop action in the tradition of the cartoons. I read somewhere in a review someone said that it contains action you've never seen before and I have to say this is true (especially in regards to snake eyes/storm shadow).

The gadgets, the lairs, the vehicles, the action is so large in scope you get lost in the set pieces and the look of the movie is 'awesome'. The money is definitely on the screen. There are action sequences that are so ambitious that logic defies them and the special fx have a hard time getting away with it, but because it's Joe, you just accept that.

The downside to this is that the pacing of the movie is so high that it rarely allows for any meaningful interaction between the characters and in regards to some of the origin plots a lot feels rushed and taken for granted. Cobra Commander is not as enjoyable as in the cartoon and the Joe's are also not as... manly as in the cartoons (there's no Roadblock or Shipwreck) but as heroes they suffice. The baroness and scarlett are ... definitely all woman big grin

Also the dead count is surprisingly high in this movie!

Silvestri's music is doing its own battle against the countless explosions and action sounds but it holds up nicely and I enjoyed it, perhaps even more so than on the album.

Highlights for me was the chase through Paris (seen in the trailer) and I thought Zartan was a pleasant surprise.

 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2009 - 11:32 AM   
 By:   T.J. Turner   (Member)

Interesting,
Does the movie have any moral messages like, "Now remember kids, most problems can be sorted out by talking about them and expressiong how you feel, leave fighting stuff to us!"
"Now you know, and knowing is half the battle"

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2009 - 12:01 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

Interesting,
Does the movie have any moral messages like, "Now remember kids, most problems can be sorted out by talking about them and expressiong how you feel, leave fighting stuff to us!"
"Now you know, and knowing is half the battle"


SPOILER The "knowing is half the battle" phrase does appear a couple of times, Dennis Quaid mentions it and later it's goofed upon. But beyond that, there are no 30 second clips of telling us it's wrong to smoke or steal smile

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2009 - 2:32 PM   
 By:   BigMacGyver2000   (Member)

"beyond that, there are no 30 second clips of telling us it's wrong to smoke or steal"

Quite the contrary. For example, I was surprised how badass this film is and how much they strech the brutality to the limits of its rating.

I really liked the film. Its a nice action movie. Nothing more and nothing less. Lightyears ahead of transformers (2). This film actually attempts to develop some characters while some setups and plot twists are really nicely executed. The paris chase is just badass! Poor people on these streets!

The end credits begins with a dreadful song, then goes into a suite of the score edited together of several score pieces such as a part of the paris chase and others (including one short bit that was definitely not on the CD). The end credits track from the CD wasn't used in the movie.

One thing i noticed was that the score was mixed relatively low into the film's soundtrack. At least it did not feel as present as in van helsing or the mummy returns, but when you hear it, it gets the fluids going (and i am sure some of the people in the audience will buy the CD, some even stayed during the credits).

 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2009 - 2:44 PM   
 By:   T.J. Turner   (Member)

How'd did you all come to see the movie? Did you see it in Digital?
Paramount supposidly beefed up security on this movie, and have digitally locked all but the first reel for theater test screenings over here until thursday night.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2009 - 3:01 PM   
 By:   BigMacGyver2000   (Member)

I had no problem seeing it. UCI did one regular advance screening here (berlin, germany) which was open to regular audiences. Did not seem to be a big deal and the theater was only half filled.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 6, 2009 - 1:46 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

How'd did you all come to see the movie? Did you see it in Digital?
Paramount supposidly beefed up security on this movie, and have digitally locked all but the first reel for theater test screenings over here until thursday night.


In Belgium it was released yesterday in theatres, august 5th. New movies are always released on wednesday, don't ask me why smile

 
 Posted:   Aug 6, 2009 - 8:52 AM   
 By:   Hercule Platini   (Member)

Just came out of my local's second screening and I have to confess I'm feeling slightly puzzled as to why I enjoyed given that it shares so many faults with the unmitigated rubbish of Transformers 2 - based on a toy, full of things going bang, large-scale destruction, a ludicrous overload of CGI, and the women are pure eye candy. It's not particularly well written, it's monumentally senseless and overblown from start to finish, and some of the computer effects are sub-par. But dammit it's fun.

Good to hear Silvestri in action mode, though, and I might well pick up the album (if this sound quality malarkey is resolved). That would only be the second of this year's new scores I'm interested in (the other being Giacchino's STAR TREK).

 
 Posted:   Aug 7, 2009 - 2:18 AM   
 By:   Gold Digger   (Member)

Had a response from Varese re the GI Joe sound quality. Doesn't look good...

We also heard of some web site threads complaining about this disc and have since put effort into getting to the bottom of this. As I'm sure you know, there is a tendency in the message board world to light fires which are not based on facts. There is a great deal of misinformation spread about this way. We did actually receive a few emails about this as well, but the emails from different people were virtually identical ... word for word. We found that a little suspicious.

As a matter of procedure, viewing a spectral analysis of the audio files is never part of the approval process. A mastered album is always carefully listened to by Varèse Sarabande, the album producers and engineers and is approved before it is duplicated. This album went through the same approval process.

I can assure you that, after re-listening to the disc, everyone involved continues to stand behind the sound quality of the disc.

Hope that helps.

 
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