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 Posted:   Jan 22, 2011 - 8:26 AM   
 By:   Gary S.   (Member)

Well that is disappointing as it is my most played release of last year and is a recording that should be in everyone's collection.

Every one of James' film score re-recordings from THE GUNS OF NAVARONE on (TADLOW001) should be in every serious collector's collection:



George I agree which is why Larry of Arabia and True Grit are high on my to be purchased when I have some spare cash list. I'd add the Far From The Madding Crowd release to the above though.

 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2011 - 8:40 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I hope the "epic" is The War Lord by Jerome Moross (with some Hans J. Salter) -- it's time to add more composers to the Tadlow stable, and this is one of the greatest epic scores of the 60s!

Out of curiousity James do you have any other releases of original film recordings coming up or will that have to wait until you find tapes for Jesus of Nazareth?

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2011 - 9:01 AM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)


What I don't understand is how the Rozsa Estate has the power to withold score material for film scores for which the film company and/or publisher retain the rights.

Neither do I ...especially when I have a letter from EMI Music (the publishers and therefore the copyright owners of the scores) requesting Syracuse University to make copies of the original sketches and any scores for both Tadlow Music and EMI themselves. Yet Syracuse refuse to make any copies unless permission also comes from the Rozsa family....


Maybe there's scope for EMI, as the copyright owners, to consider legal action if Syracuse University and/or the Rozsa Estate are refusing to make the material available. If EMI were making a recording, Syracuse would surely have to supply the score.

 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2011 - 9:04 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Yeah, but is is worth making enemies of the Rozsa estate?

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2011 - 9:31 AM   
 By:   JamesFitz   (Member)

I hope the "epic" is The War Lord by Jerome Moross (with some Hans J. Salter) -- it's time to add more composers to the Tadlow stable, and this is one of the greatest epic scores of the 60s!

Out of curiousity James do you have any other releases of original film recordings coming up or will that have to wait until you find tapes for Jesus of Nazareth?

Yavar


Just the remix from original tapes of A PASSAGE TO INDIA ... liitle bit of extra stuff ... plus source cues

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2011 - 9:34 AM   
 By:   JamesFitz   (Member)


What I don't understand is how the Rozsa Estate has the power to withold score material for film scores for which the film company and/or publisher retain the rights.

Neither do I ...especially when I have a letter from EMI Music (the publishers and therefore the copyright owners of the scores) requesting Syracuse University to make copies of the original sketches and any scores for both Tadlow Music and EMI themselves. Yet Syracuse refuse to make any copies unless permission also comes from the Rozsa family....


Maybe there's scope for EMI, as the copyright owners, to consider legal action if Syracuse University and/or the Rozsa Estate are refusing to make the material available. If EMI were making a recording, Syracuse would surely have to supply the score.


I am sure there is a case ... but to be honest I don't really want to get involved in that. If the Rozsa estate want to do QUO VADIS themselves then fine, all well and good. However it would be annoying if nothing was every done with QUO VADIS ... in my lifetime!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2011 - 9:35 AM   
 By:   JamesFitz   (Member)

I hope the "epic" is The War Lord by Jerome Moross (with some Hans J. Salter) -- it's time to add more composers to the Tadlow stable, and this is one of the greatest epic scores of the 60s!

Out of curiousity James do you have any other releases of original film recordings coming up or will that have to wait until you find tapes for Jesus of Nazareth?

Yavar


Sorry not WAR LORD ...yet

 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2011 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

I'd love you to re-record Magnificent Seven, but that probably wouldn't sell very well either, previous re-recordings have always been somewhat lacking, I'd love to hear a complete score recording done by Tadlow, sadly I think this will be one dream that doesn't come true.

Why Magnificent Seven for Christ sake?
It's certainly a score that would IMHO sell quite well, but there are far too many scores that haven't been released half a dozen times and re-recorded twice already.
Speaking about Bernstein,... Sons of Katie Elder, Hallelujah Trail, The Miracle or The Ten Commandments or whatever is lost would be far more interesting to re-record as they could be therefore finally available in the complete form for the first time. Not for the 5th time, Magnificent seven would. smile

 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2011 - 10:19 AM   
 By:   Guenther K   (Member)


Maybe there's scope for EMI, as the copyright owners, to consider legal action if Syracuse University and/or the Rozsa Estate are refusing to make the material available. If EMI were making a recording, Syracuse would surely have to supply the score.


Doubt it. EMI doesn't own the physical paper and ink. A bit like if you wrote a novel that got published and years later the publisher knocks on your door and demands the sketches for a unused chapter in the book. You won't be able to publish those sketches with someone else but they have no right to access them either.

 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2011 - 10:41 AM   
 By:   Chris Rimmer   (Member)

I'd love you to re-record Magnificent Seven, but that probably wouldn't sell very well either, previous re-recordings have always been somewhat lacking, I'd love to hear a complete score recording done by Tadlow, sadly I think this will be one dream that doesn't come true.

Why Magnificent Seven for Christ sake?


It just happens to be my favourite score of all time, it was the first film I ever saw and the music has remained my favourite ever since (46 years at no 1) none of the previous re-recordings have caught the "feel" of the score, some are too slow and one sounds like the guitar players where in another room. It may have been re-recorded and released many times ( so had Lawrence) but none of the previous releases have done it justice. smile

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2011 - 1:44 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

I hope the "epic" is The War Lord by Jerome Moross (with some Hans J. Salter) -- it's time to add more composers to the Tadlow stable, and this is one of the greatest epic scores of the 60s!

Out of curiousity James do you have any other releases of original film recordings coming up or will that have to wait until you find tapes for Jesus of Nazareth?

Yavar


Sorry not WAR LORD ...yet


There's always hope! smile
This score simply needs the Tadlow touch. I can't thank you enough for Exodus, El Cid, Lawrence, or True Grit!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2011 - 3:10 AM   
 By:   JamesFitz   (Member)

I hope the "epic" is The War Lord by Jerome Moross (with some Hans J. Salter) -- it's time to add more composers to the Tadlow stable, and this is one of the greatest epic scores of the 60s!

Out of curiousity James do you have any other releases of original film recordings coming up or will that have to wait until you find tapes for Jesus of Nazareth?

Yavar


Sorry not WAR LORD ...yet


There's always hope! smile
This score simply needs the Tadlow touch. I can't thank you enough for Exodus, El Cid, Lawrence, or True Grit!


Well already did a long suite many years ago in Prague ....I think that turned out really well (?) despite being recorded at a time when the orchestra were not so good? (I never said that ...they have alays been a fine orchestra, it is just that now they are a great orchestra and in the view of Nic Raine as good as any of the many orchestras he has conducted in Germany, France, Sovakia, Spain, UK etc... and he regards their string sound as the very best)

So imagine how well they could do the complete WAR LORD now !!!

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2011 - 4:50 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

I think the whole Moross album turned out really well! (as did the second one)

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2011 - 10:50 AM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

I think the whole Moross album turned out really well! (as did the second one)

Indeed those two Moross albums made me take notice of how good the Prague orchestra had become. The Vikings Suite, the Taras Bulba Suite, the John Barry re-recordings... all very good.

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2011 - 10:55 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

Sorry not WAR LORD ...yet

I just love that 'yet' James .... the joy of a three-letter word!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2011 - 11:56 PM   
 By:   JamesFitz   (Member)

Sorry not WAR LORD ...yet

I just love that 'yet' James .... the joy of a three-letter word!


I've always wanted to do a complete WAR LORD... so let's see if finances hold out a wee bit longer before I retire from this recording lark

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2011 - 8:52 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

Sorry not WAR LORD ...yet

I just love that 'yet' James .... the joy of a three-letter word!


I've always wanted to do a complete WAR LORD... so let's see if finances hold out a wee bit longer before I retire from this recording lark


Would you want to rerecord the Salter cues too? I think I could live without them if you could save some money not recording them.

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2011 - 9:24 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Maybe there's scope for EMI, as the copyright owners, to consider legal action if Syracuse University and/or the Rozsa Estate are refusing to make the material available.

Given that James acknowledges that his recordings are money-losing ventures, it seems unlikely that EMI would incur the additional cost of legal proceedings, even if they were confident of their rightness.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2011 - 11:18 AM   
 By:   Ryan Brennan   (Member)

Too bad about the Rozsa estate because I'd sure like to hear a proper recording of THE GOLDEN VOYAGE OF SINBAD.

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2011 - 11:29 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

Would you want to rerecord the Salter cues too? I think I could live without them if you could save some money not recording them.


You'd need the 'Death of Draco' sequence at least, since it's essentially integral to the dramatic flow.

There are other bits and pieces that are Salter's arrangements of Moross's themes. It would be nice to know which is which. For example, there's an exquisite little passage that finishes two battle scenes, (it's on the album CD, just at the tail-end of 'The War Lord in Battle': it's also at the end of the first fight with the Frisians early on), which just perfectly describes musically the whole 'joyous comradeship' thing that was part of chivalry, just a few bars. Not necessarily in keeping with the score's overall feel, it still has Moross's feel about it, though it's probably Salter.

The whole thing is a one-CD affair anyway.

 
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