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 Posted:   Apr 12, 2013 - 10:20 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Does anyone besides me think that the two bonus tracks on this release may be "test balloons" like that great Conan the Destroyer cue was when it was included on the Barbarian recording? Perhaps Luc is wisely testing the waters on these two to see if people get more enthusiastic about them based on fresh new recordings in great sound?

Nope. Don't think that "Conan the Destroyer" cue was anything other than a bonus, and I think the same for these.

I honestly don't get this idea of soundtrack producers "testing the waters," as comes up here from time to time. It doesn't make a lick of sense. How in the world would anybody gauge enthusiasm? From us? Boy, I hope not. And by the way, if you go back and read the threads here about the Tadlow "Conan the Barbarian" release, the "Destroyer" cue was roundly criticized as being too slow and lifeless. Those waters were cold. The success of the "Barbarian" CD, however, allowed them to do the obvious follow-up, which they were hoping to do anyway.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2013 - 10:22 AM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

...and of course I eagerly await the premiere of the music for Franco Nero's infamous slo-mo jock strap fight scene... smile

Why wait?



Paul Smith is a joke in this film. He has only one squinty-eyed sideways look through the whole film. This is case where his acting runs the gamut from A to A.

The worst thing about this film is that it's BORING. Takes a all-star cast and drains the life out of them.

I remember Sybill Danning being a big deal back in the early 80s. I think she desperately wanted to be a Bond Girl but thankfully never got the chance. She's terrible in this too.

The film only has any spark when Goldsmith's score comes in and then it's mixed so poorly you can't enjoy it.

James

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2013 - 10:22 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Oh, and if that came off as harsh, Yavar, that was not my intention! Let me just say this: I respectfully disagree.

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2013 - 10:33 AM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

...and of course I eagerly await the premiere of the music for Franco Nero's infamous slo-mo jock strap fight scene... smile

Why wait?



Paul Smith is a joke in this film. He has only one squinty-eyed sideways look through the whole film. This is case where his acting runs the gamut from A to A.

The worst thing about this film is that it's BORING. Takes a all-star cast and drains the life out of them.

I remember Sybill Danning being a big deal back in the early 80s. I think she desperately wanted to be a Bond Girl but thankfully never got the chance. She's terrible in this too.

The film only has any spark when Goldsmith's score comes in and then it's mixed so poorly you can't enjoy it.

James


I can only imagine what Jerry Goldsmith must have thought having to repeatedly watch this fight scene when composing the music as well as when recording it with the orchestra! Constantly watching one hairy man wearing only a jock strap getting tossed by a burly, hairier man had to be somewhat awkward, right? smile

And only Jerry could supply such an odd scene with such orchestral ferocity. That time of movie scores will never come again.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2013 - 10:38 AM   
 By:   Peter877   (Member)

This is brilliant!! Arrived today very cool score, can,t stop listening

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2013 - 10:41 AM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Oh to have a photo of Jerry's face while conducting to the Jock Strap.

That would be truly classic. I'm sure he had some pretty hilarious thoughts about it and perhaps he and the orchestra even shared a few laughs.

Were the original scoring sessions done in Italy?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2013 - 10:44 AM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Anyone receive theirs yet? SAE says mine has shipped.

Hoping to have it today.

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2013 - 11:20 AM   
 By:   The Thing   (Member)

Got mine today from Tadlow.

Really enjoyed the score, and there were the occasional odd few seconds that reminded me of The Challenge.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2013 - 11:48 AM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Got mine today from Tadlow.

Really enjoyed the score, and there were the occasional odd few seconds that reminded me of The Challenge.


The love theme from THE SALAMANDER and that from THE CHALLENGE have the same feeling and yet melodically they are different. It's a structure and build that Goldsmith employs that is sheer brilliance. I totally hear it in both themes which are superb.

He gently plays the theme at first as delicate as possible and then builds and builds and builds until it just explodes with a grand passion that is his alone.

There's a cue of his in CABOBLANCO which also does this. Love Theme played ever so delicate and then builds to awesomeness.

And all 3 of these scores are ethnically diverse and yet the feeling is universally the same. Anyone hear what I'm hearing?

In the CABOBLANCO cue "Boat Attack / Jungle Run" played in the following Suite starting at 3:40, Love Theme quoted ever so delicately and then the glorious build.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsiNP2iZqbA

Here it is in THE CHALLENGE right at the beginning of this great Suite. Pure Goldsmith Passion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHM9zVa8vs4

Other composers did it in different ways, but no one could do it like Jerry Goldsmith. For me that is. Those "Goldsmith Moments" in a score would truly shiver my timbers.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2013 - 2:51 PM   
 By:   HAL 2000   (Member)

That Jock strap scene alone is full of awesome!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2013 - 10:49 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)








WOW!!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2013 - 10:53 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

Spectacular, brilliant, superb, gorgeous; Tadlow has executed with perfection this "lost" masterpiece by Jerry Goldsmith.

 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2013 - 4:23 PM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

Tadlow's Goldsmith series continues with a beautiful recording of The Salamander! So we have this one and THE CHAIRMAN to look forward to!

These guys are choosing some excellent titles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mN2_1Ar6C0M#!

-Rick O.


Just listened to samples of this on SAE site and it is wonderful! Track 5, Dante and Lili is so beautiful. On my list for sure.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2013 - 10:24 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

No one else get this great score yet ? I have been playing it nonstop


HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2013 - 2:00 AM   
 By:   CĂ©dricD   (Member)

My review (in French) :
http://melomad.wordpress.com/2013/04/15/the-salamander-jerry-golsmithprometheus/

 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2013 - 7:17 AM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

YOR never heard of this score or movie.

And the score is great!

Thanks to Tadlow!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2013 - 8:49 AM   
 By:   mnrvason   (Member)

The disc is worth buying just to listen to the second track. Wonderfully emotional music with a religious tone remiscent of Goldsmith's Final Conflict score (specifically, the track Second Coming), scored the same year, I believe.

This is a wonderful score and I, too, highly recommend it!!

SheriffJoe

 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2013 - 9:09 AM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

The disc is worth buying just to listen to the second track. Wonderfully emotional music with a religious tone remiscent of Goldsmith's Final Conflict score (specifically, the track Second Coming), scored the same year, I believe.

This is a wonderful score and I, too, highly recommend it!!

SheriffJoe


YOR agrees with sheriff-grammar-teacher-dude.

Even YOR being a fool-blood atheist!

 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2013 - 12:20 PM   
 By:   Gary S.   (Member)

No one else get this great score yet ? I have been playing it nonstop


HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!


I'm still waiting for my copy along with 2 other Tadlow releases to ship from SAE.

 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2013 - 3:13 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Got it! Wow! I hadn't listened to any preview clips. Was blown away. Also - the Ransom suite is incredible.

I must now start a new, massive playlist...

 
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