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 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 8:11 AM   
 By:   La La Land Records   (Member)

"I'm sick of you people. You're just a bunch of fickle mush heads"









Vote Quimby

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 8:12 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

At least I'm complaining for something *missing*. For sure I will never complain for music added as bonus.

Negativity is not allowed. Accept. Obey.

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 8:15 AM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

At least I'm complaining for something *missing*. For sure I will never complain for music added as bonus.

Negativity is not allowed on a Kritzerland thread. Take note.


Glad you said it. If what you were saying were worded in a way that was supportive of the work a label does but also expresses your concerns, I'd agree. With all due respect, some of your posts in this thread would feel antagonistic to me, and I'm not altogether sure that surprises you. Does it?

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 8:15 AM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

At least I'm complaining for something *missing*. For sure I will never complain for music added as bonus.

Negativity is not allowed. Accept. Obey.


Let us know when you're finished editing your comment to provide just the right negative tone.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 8:18 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Glad you said it. If what you were saying were worded in a way that was supportive of the work a label does but also expresses your concerns, I'd agree. With all due respect, some of your posts in this thread would feel antagonistic to me, and I'm not altogether sure that surprises you. Does it?

I haven't been antagonistic at all. I simply pointed out that certain aspects of this release are not as optimum as they could have been. It's no different to comments made by many other people on many other threads.

It's everybody's response to those comments that have blown what I said out of proportion!

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 8:18 AM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

I was hoping track 5, 'One the Move/ Runaway' would be broken into separate tracks. It plays without the 'On the Move' section in the movie and the last fading chords of the 'Move' track blending into 'Runaway' seem to diminish the effect of the halting, chugging orchestral forces Goldsimth was employing to characterize the lumbering wheels and pistons slowly but inexorably gaining speed and momentum.

Bruce, can you tell us if this track to which they're referring appears on your release exactly as it does on the LLL? I'm picking up the Kritzerland as well, but just want to know what to expect in terms of differences, etc.

And at the risk of purposefully countering the few negative posts here, thank you for going the extra mile to give your release of this title something extra.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 8:19 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Let us know when you're finished editing your comment to provide just the right negative tone.

Finshed now. Thanks.

I expressed my views (as a consumer and part of the key target audience) about the content/sequencing of a new CD release. And I've been called all sorts of crap for it. It's almost as if I murdered somebody's cat or something. Geesh!

Is this a forum or a CD promotional site?

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 8:24 AM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

Glad you said it. If what you were saying were worded in a way that was supportive of the work a label does but also expresses your concerns, I'd agree. With all due respect, some of your posts in this thread would feel antagonistic to me, and I'm not altogether sure that surprises you. Does it?

I haven't been antagonistic at all. I simply pointed out that certain aspects of this release are not as optimum as they could have been. It's no different to comments made by many other people on many other threads.

It's everybody's response to those comments that have blown what I said out of proportion!


C'mon, look at your post previous to this ("Negativity is not allowed. Accept. Obey."). Does that sarcasm-filled post look like you're not trying to antagonize? Believe me, I think often what is the simple statement of opinion on this board is decried as horrible, negative, attacking when it's just an opinion, but I also think your wording in some places is particularly absolute and diminishing in its tone. Just my opinion.

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 8:24 AM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

double post

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 8:57 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

C'mon, look at your post previous to this ("Negativity is not allowed. Accept. Obey."). Does that sarcasm-filled post look like you're not trying to antagonize? Believe me, I think often what is the simple statement of opinion on this board is decried as horrible, negative, attacking when it's just an opinion, but I also think your wording in some places is particularly absolute and diminishing in its tone. Just my opinion.

My increasingly hostile tone has been in direct response to the ludicrous accusations that have been hurled at me by other posters in this thread. I've been accused of secret agendas, conspiratorial attacks, I've been told to piss off. All because I dared to criticise a sequencing decision!

You'll forgive me for being a little diminishing at this point.

Anyway not wishing to have the thread closed, I'll move on.

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 9:18 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

"I'm sick of you people. You're just a bunch of fickle mush heads"









Vote Quimby


I am going to go on, a, ah, fact-finding mission.

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 11:43 AM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

My increasingly hostile tone has been in direct response to the lidicrous accusations that have been levelled at me by other posters in this thread. I've been accused of secret agendas, conspiratorial attacks, I've been told to piss off. All because I dared to criticise a sequencing decision!

You'll forgive me for being a little diminishing at this point.

Anyway not wishing to have the thread closed, I'll move on.


I do understand. Cheers, sir. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 11:55 AM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

I am very glad this is available again and I sincerley appreciate the extra effort expended in tracking down the the extras.

I was hoping track 5, 'One the Move/ Runaway' would be broken into separate tracks. It plays without the 'On the Move' section in the movie and the last fading chords of the 'Move' track blending into 'Runaway' seem to diminish the effect of the halting, chugging orchestral forces Goldsimth was employing to characterize the lumbering wheels and pistons slowly but inexorably gaining speed and momentum.

Was the 'On the Move' track supposed to go there or was that just an arbitrary, editorial decision made by the previous producers? Maybe Jeff Bond can tell us.

The previous LP and CD incarnation had a clean intro to that cue, as does the score in the movie. Maybe I'm just used to hearing it that way but that part was always a highlight for me.

But very,very pleased this is available again !


It was the way the previous master was assembled and we just thought it wasn't worth the trouble to pull it apart, and with the nitpicking coming early on in this thread, someone would have screamed about it. The piece that precedes the cue isn't in the film at all - it was just added as an extra. Interestingly, the similar short cue from earlier in the film IS repeated once close to its original appearance.


I'm confused. Is this track exactly as it appears on the LLL or is it different?


It is as it was on the La La - this has been stated as clearly as I know how in the release - we go into each and every difference there.

Amusingly, no one had a problem with it on the La La - it's suddenly only a problem on this release. Go know. What is different about this release is the addition of a previously missing cue, an alternate mix on the end credits, and a cue as it appears in the film, edited from two other cues - the latter was also not on the previous release. We're very happy with the release and apparently so are about 1000 other people, as it will not be around much past this evening. smile

As to Spymaster, if this was his first time doing this, no one would have said boo. But history shows us otherwise. He had no intention of ever purchasing this release, so why it was necessary to post anything is beyond me. He has said we used an "inferior" source for the missing cue without having a clew whether it was inferior or not (it is hardly inferior). I don't know - sounds purposely negative to me, but what do I know?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 12:30 PM   
 By:   Beast7279   (Member)

Thank you Kritzerland for all your work in bringing this release to light. I already own the LA LA LAND and there is not enough new material on the new release to pull my dollars. Not sure why people are complaining that there is material on this release that should have been left out. Even the most primitive device has a skip track feature. To all those labels and producers that have filled my shelves with Goldsmith and Mancini, thank you for taking the slings and arrows to bring them to me.

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 2:08 PM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

It is as it was on the La La - this has been stated as clearly as I know how in the release - we go into each and every difference there.

Thank you, Bruce! I thought so, but then the wording in one of the posts here confused me a bit. Looking so forward to adding this to my collection. I have the LLL but am myself excited about the extra tracks. This is a Goldsmith score I'm ecstatic you were able to secure and offer to another 1000 peeps who didn't get a chance at this or who, like me, look forward to the extras. The Jeff Bond notes alone will be worth the price of admission, I would imagine. (And btw, not enough people use the phrase "go know" anymore. First time I heard it: Louise Lasser in one of her Woody films; was it Bananas or Take The Money? I forget.)

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 5:59 PM   
 By:   xG-MONEYx   (Member)

This tittle is now SOLD OUT at Kritzerland!!! BUT still at the following!!!!

http://www.screenarchives.com/title_detail.cfm/ID/24837/BREAKHEART-PASS-1000-EDITION/

http://buysoundtrax.stores.yahoo.net/brparisobyje.html

one of Jerry's best!! Don't pass up!!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 6:20 PM   
 By:   zooba   (Member)

Just snagged one at SAE. I was going to get it directly through you Bruce like I did for HOW GREEN WAS MY VALLEY, but waited just a tad too long. Anyway, glad I got one!

Thanks to Bruce and Kritzerland for your superb releases always. They are very very appreciated!

Still loving HOW GREEN WAS MY VALLEY and I know BREAKHEART PASS is Awesome!


Zoob

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 7:17 PM   
 By:   IWalkAmongYou   (Member)

This tittle is now SOLD OUT at Kritzerland!!! BUT still at the following!!!!

http://www.screenarchives.com/title_detail.cfm/ID/24837/BREAKHEART-PASS-1000-EDITION/

http://buysoundtrax.stores.yahoo.net/brparisobyje.html

one of Jerry's best!! Don't pass up!!


Ordered mine through Intrada Monday night with another title. They still seem to have it available for sale. I hope they're still getting theirs...!!!!

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 7:27 PM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

This a something I taught my children as they grew. Just sayin'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I71cY9Ysy5U



Thank you Kritzerland for what you do!

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 7:45 PM   
 By:   Paul Ettinger   (Member)

the wording in one of the posts here confused me a bit.

That may have been my post and if so my apologies to you Accidental. As per the board rules I was being purposely vague about previous versions. I meant the previous incarnations prior to the Lala land version. I should have been clearer about that. I believe the track in question was also track 5 and called ' Steam Rollin' ', on those versions.

 
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