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 Posted:   Dec 5, 2013 - 9:55 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

As far as sales are concerned Superman and Lethal are far out selling Gunfight. Police academy would be in third then followed by Gunfight. All are performing well though. Just glad we were out of the gate first.

Btw, I told you guys a storm was coming. Hurricane Varese is gonna blow you away. smile

MV



Storm? Hurricane? Are those clues? smile

I'm greatly looking forward to OK Corral, thanks MV! smile

 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2013 - 10:10 PM   
 By:   Josh   (Member)

Btw, I told you guys a storm was coming. Hurricane Varese is gonna blow you away.


"...and your little wallet, too!"

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2013 - 11:51 AM   
 By:   filmo   (Member)

i am really going to obtain 'GUNFIGHT, ' but i want to know if anyone might have an idea whenthe other tion tiomkin scores are supposed to be released from la la land so i can buy them all in one package. i would hpoe this score doesn't sell out once the other scores are announced. what's the latest on how this score is selling from the other labels? thank you.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2013 - 12:23 PM   
 By:   Jim Bailey   (Member)

i am really going to obtain 'GUNFIGHT, ' but i want to know if anyone might have an idea whenthe other tion tiomkin scores are supposed to be released from la la land so i can buy them all in one package. i would hpoe this score doesn't sell out once the other scores are announced. what's the latest on how this score is selling from the other labels? thank you.

I wouldn't worry about this selling out...

"As far as sales are concerned Superman and Lethal are far out selling Gunfight. Police academy would be in third then followed by Gunfight".

 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2013 - 1:15 PM   
 By:   La La Land Records   (Member)

i am really going to obtain 'GUNFIGHT, ' but i want to know if anyone might have an idea whenthe other tion tiomkin scores are supposed to be released from la la land so i can buy them all in one package. i would hpoe this score doesn't sell out once the other scores are announced. what's the latest on how this score is selling from the other labels? thank you.

I wouldn't worry about this selling out...



I wouldn't say that. Don't forget, Gunfight is only 2000 units where the others are 3000 units

MV

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2013 - 1:17 PM   
 By:   blue15   (Member)

GUNFIGHT is the gem of the batch for me.

 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2013 - 2:39 PM   
 By:   Ray Worley   (Member)

Glad to see that most folks have accepted the "tongue-in-cheek" nature of this thread and have kept the rancor to a minimum.

I think its great that this batch of LLL releases had a variety of scores. I quickly snapped up OK CORRAL but have no interest in the others. Not because I don't like scores of any era or style or even composer.... or that I didn't see the films. I saw all of these. I have a few Kamen scores and a couple of Ottmans. It's just that none of the other scores particularly grabbed me. Also, maybe when you have approaching 3000 film scores, it begins to dawn on you that you just have to draw the line somewhere.

As I got older, I found I like MORE scores from MORE eras and styles. I just became more and more open to different sounds and approaches. I have scores from silent films right up to 2013.
I like Steiner's KING KONG but also brought TRON LEGACY. I love westerns especially but like all approaches...from Tiomkin's old school "clippity-clop" DUEL IN THE SUN to more modern stuff like Beltrami's 3:10 TO YUMA.

If I had unlimited money and time maybe I would buy LETHAL WEAPON, POLICE ACADEMY, etc., but the competition this month is fierce and we don't even know what Varese has in store. OK CORRAL was an absolute must though.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2013 - 2:46 PM   
 By:   Angelillo   (Member)

Hurricane Varese is gonna blow you away.


Storm? Hurricane? Are those clues?




Storm ? Hurry...Caine ?


 
 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2013 - 2:49 PM   
 By:   Eugene Iemola   (Member)

Never thought I'd live to see this release. Glad I did. By the way, what about Rio Bravo?

Now that we have Gunfight, Rio Bravo moves up a notch and takes the #1 spot.

 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2013 - 3:18 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

Never thought I'd live to see this release. Glad I did. By the way, what about Rio Bravo?

Now that we have Gunfight, Rio Bravo moves up a notch and takes the #1 spot.






Joint #1... with Duning's 3:10 to Yuma and another great Frankie Laine contribution.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2013 - 3:27 PM   
 By:   Eugene Iemola   (Member)

Joint #1... with Duning's 3:10 to Yuma and another great Frankie Laine contribution.

And I'll second that (although, truth be told, I've had the Citadel release for decades.).

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2013 - 3:41 PM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

For those in the uk who wish to remind themselves of this film and score, it is bein screened on film4 on monday.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2013 - 5:00 PM   
 By:   filmo   (Member)

let's hope the other tiomkin scores hopefully to be released are GIANT, NIGHT PASSAGE, TENSION AT TABLE ROCK and THE COMMAND if they still exist in any format. I guess most people know about GIANT and NIGHT PASSAGE, but if anyone knows the scores to the latter two titles, please comment.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2013 - 5:30 PM   
 By:   finder4545   (Member)

Due to the stature of the CORRAL score and its giant composer, the true disturbing problem emerged from the thread, for me, remains the lack of consideration for that old film music by some young followers of NOT jazz or rock composers, BUT of today's symphonist composers for large orchestra: to say, Zimmer or Elfman. So, what's the matter with the old big symphonic scores? Maybe educational and existential, closely interlaced. Educational, not having seen and not knowing old movies on continuing basis; not having absorbed the inner contents and, for this, without having the right imprinting to interface a classic release as CORRAL with their current mind. Existential, not having "lived" that cinema at that moment in movie theatres and missing each nostalgic and emotional impact. Memory is important. And music just expresses memory in many ways. So we are at a third reason, out of educational and existential, which is the "cultural formation". Today's film music, in many cases, against the presumption of being symphonic, seems a unique thunderous stream without distinction and narration. Today's listener is accustomed to that kind of structure, in the same way he is accustomed to frantic editing. The old symphonic scores were true stories built with thematic material, solo passages and dialogue between instruments. So, they were wonderful items. But not all, of course. Even old scores could be bad. The difference was in the composer. In Tiomkin...or not Tiomkin! Regarding new wanted titles, yes, NIGHT PASSAGE deserves to be immediately released.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2013 - 2:16 PM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

I recorded this film again and watched it yesterday. The score works very well with the film still, even revisiting it with a much older eye! The pace dragged a little at times but it is an undoubted a classic. Interesting that Sturges directed such a wildly different vehicle a few years later with Magnificent Seven. Be tough to imagine two more westerns so apart in style and pace.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2013 - 2:31 PM   
 By:   The CinemaScope Cat   (Member)

let's hope the other tiomkin scores hopefully to be released are GIANT, NIGHT PASSAGE, TENSION AT TABLE ROCK and THE COMMAND if they still exist in any format. I guess most people know about GIANT and NIGHT PASSAGE, but if anyone knows the scores to the latter two titles, please comment.

Surely Tiomkin's The High And The Mighty original soundtrack which has never been released on any format (not including Bernstein's rerecording) should be added to that list. Or were you just listing Tiomkin's "western" scores.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2013 - 2:50 PM   
 By:   jonathan_little   (Member)

Existential, not having "lived" that cinema at that moment in movie theatres and missing each nostalgic and emotional impact.

I've never really understood the nostalgic part. I have a handful of scores that I experienced in the film which served as the basis for sparking my interest in film music. These scores transcend the others in a way, but a vast majority of my collection is from films I've never seen. When I do seek out the films, I am often disappointed or at best apathetic in what I see.

People just like different things. I enjoy a lot of Romantic and 20th Century orchestral music, but Classical and Baroque generally do not interest me much. I can easily understand how a fan of Zimmer or Elfman might not want to sit down and consume a Tiomkin score.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2013 - 3:02 PM   
 By:   waxmanman35   (Member)

<>today's film music, in many cases, against the presumption of being symphonic, seems a unique thunderous stream without distinction and narration.<> Regarding new wanted titles, yes, NIGHT PASSAGE deserves to be immediately released.

I would term most contemporary film scores as "drivel." Endless pounding chord progressions without distinction.

As to "Night Passage," as I recall there's only about twenty minutes of music in the film, nearly all of it in the early part of the film, with no music after the train sequence. Poor-sounding copies made from transcription discs have floated around.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2013 - 3:25 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

<>today's film music, in many cases, against the presumption of being symphonic, seems a unique thunderous stream without distinction and narration.<> Regarding new wanted titles, yes, NIGHT PASSAGE deserves to be immediately released.

I would term most contemporary film scores as "drivel." Endless pounding chord progressions without distinction.

As to "Night Passage," as I recall there's only about twenty minutes of music in the film, nearly all of it in the early part of the film, with no music after the train sequence. Poor-sounding copies made from transcription discs have floated around.




"drivel" ..... sorry to say I have to agree. So it goes with the current generation.

We are lucky that we have the golden age, and much of the silver age, to listen to.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2013 - 5:25 PM   
 By:   filmo   (Member)

has anyone received 'GUNFIGHT' yet? please post any comments on what you think of the music. also it was mentioned that 'NIGHT PASSAGE' is not a long score. why not pair it with another tiomkin score (eg.TENSION AT TABLE ROCK) to fill in the rest of any recording? this is only premised by the hope that these scores can be located in the studio vaults.

 
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