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 Posted:   Jan 9, 2011 - 6:16 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

the cue that plays from :15 to 1:00 is an all-time fave and ,like most of my faves, was left off of the cd in lieu of the marching band stuff which pales in comparisonsfrown
really frustrating

btw it= a soundalike/ knock-off of "oo7" by John Barry

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 9, 2011 - 11:38 PM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

the cue that plays from :15 to 1:00 is an all-time fave and ,like most of my faves, was left off of the cd in lieu of the marching band stuff which pales in comparisonsfrown
really frustrating

btw it= a soundalike/ knock-off of "oo7" by John Barry



And that's really not a knock on this music, and I think most of the the posters here who really enjoy this music understand that.



Some of the pieces that Spence (and others respectfully) composed at the time were "homages" of film scores.

NFL Films was new and brash back in their early days and those pieces just added to the drama and the interest of the programs they were composed for.

As evidence of this interest, here we are all these years later talking about this music and a 10 cd set of it on an internet forum.

 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2011 - 4:27 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Agreed. I've already mentioned that at least two Spence cues sound purposely like Williams' "Superman" and Conti's "The Right Stuff."

It's interesting to contrast the 1960s NFL Films music, which was like "Crime Jazz" and that faux-rock composers come up with who didn't worship Elvis and The Beatles. By the early '70s(?), NFL Films' music had achieved its own sound.

And yes, I really "need" this box set! How's the booklet in that thing?

 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2011 - 4:45 AM   
 By:   Ag^Janus   (Member)

Wow! That sport is retarded.

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2011 - 9:08 AM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

I was able to quickly recognize about a half dozen or so on this clip that are not on AT or Power and the Glory. I don't mean to steal any of Sam Spence's thunder here, but perhaps many or even most of the missing familiar classics were actually composed by others as it appears that Beverly Hermann and Martha Jane Weber were solidly in the NFL Films mix.
Hope you all enjoy this clip. RD


Thanks so much for the info, ctyankfan7! I've been away too long and missed this board a lot. I agree that Hermann, Weber, et.al., have also made great contributions and are sorely underrepresented on Autumn Thunder. I had suspected as you have that some of the cues used in the hightlights of SB V were by someone other than Mr. Spence, particularly those that have vocals in them. They remind me of Ray Conniff's style. I'd love to know if their music is available elsewhere, I've searched unsuccessfully for quite some time. If anyone can steer me in the right direction, I'd much appreciate it. Thanks! - jack

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2011 - 9:10 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

UnPhelpslike post deleted

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2011 - 9:44 AM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

Here is one I just found recently. Not sure who produced it or who did the music, but it's one of the better Super Bowl III videos I've seen.



Thanks for posting, anzaldiman! That one brings back great memories, 2 in particular:
1.) "Joe and the Magic Bean" with the unforgettable narration by the great Sterling Holloway with music from "Peter and the Wolf"; still a fave.
2.) The original highlight film from '69. I recall the ending with Joe in slo mo waving "We're #1" and the music was a lovely, brief piece that was a lot like surf music of the '60's with a repeating 4-note guitar riff and a soft organ piece in the background. Haven't seen or heard it but once since then in 42 years now, but would love to hear it again! Thanks!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2011 - 2:58 PM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

Thanks jack!

Welcome back.

 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2011 - 8:22 AM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

Thanks jack! Welcome back

Thanks, it's great to be back!
And, thanks again to you and ctyankfan7 and a few others for starting me down the right path for the really old NFL Films Music; much of which originated from the KPM Music Library. I actually found some of my old faves, several that were featured on the Super Bowl V highlight film I had attached in a previous post.
I didn't realize that many were done by such greats as Keith Mansfield, Syd Dale, and others.
I must admit my shame in not being familiar with Mr. Mansfield, as I have been a fan of some of his contemporaries since I was a child and was familiar with much of his music without knowing his name. Much of his work (and KPM Music) can be found on Youtube, Amazon, etc, for anyone interested.
Thanks again! - jack

 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2011 - 1:36 PM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

the cue that plays from :15 to 1:00 is an all-time fave and ,like most of my faves, was left off of the cd in lieu of the marching band stuff which pales in comparisonsfrown
really frustrating btw it= a soundalike/ knock-off of "oo7" by John Barry


Hi, Mr. Marshall and pardon me if I ask amiss, but if you're referring to the cue (with "Greensleeves" interpolated in the background) on the clip about the Raiders, the cue can be found on Autumn Thunder, Disc 6, Track 14 named The Wild Bunch.
Hope this helps! - jack

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2011 - 11:15 AM   
 By:   ctyankfan7   (Member)

the cue that plays from :15 to 1:00 is an all-time fave and ,like most of my faves, was left off of the cd in lieu of the marching band stuff which pales in comparisonsfrown
really frustrating

btw it= a soundalike/ knock-off of "oo7" by John Barry


Actually, if you're referring to the Vintage Raiders clip, that's Rainbows in the End Zone which is on the Autumn Thunder set, cd#2.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2011 - 11:20 AM   
 By:   ctyankfan7   (Member)

the cue that plays from :15 to 1:00 is an all-time fave and ,like most of my faves, was left off of the cd in lieu of the marching band stuff which pales in comparisonsfrown
really frustrating btw it= a soundalike/ knock-off of "oo7" by John Barry


Hi, Mr. Marshall and pardon me if I ask amiss, but if you're referring to the cue (with "Greensleeves" interpolated in the background) on the clip about the Raiders, the cue can be found on Autumn Thunder, Disc 6, Track 14 named The Wild Bunch.
Hope this helps! - jack


Jack,

There's several clips that have been posted just prior to his response, but the Vintage Raiders clip cue from :15 to 1:00 is definitely Rainbows in the End Zone.

 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2011 - 6:11 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Nahh..

Don't tell me you have not purchased the AT set yet!

It's available now for less than 100 bucks on Amazon! 10 cd's!

Look, if you can afford all those box set DVD's of old tv detective shows you can certainly afford this.

Mike Connors even passed on hair dye and elbow patch replacements on all his sport jackets for over a month to afford this collection.

No excuses for you on this one Mr. Phelps. big grin


Hilarious! big grin Still haven't gotten this set--or even S4 of that Mannix DVD set. Hell in a handbasket, Anz...Hell in a handbasket. wink

 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2011 - 7:27 PM   
 By:   billiosis   (Member)

I love this stuff. Some of my earliest memories of film music was watchin NFL films.

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2011 - 3:38 PM   
 By:   robtoliver   (Member)

I just picked this up new at Amazon.com for $15. Oddly, the prices for this set from third-party sellers at Amazon range from $14.65 to $142.68.

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2011 - 7:44 PM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

I just picked this up new at Amazon.com for $15. Oddly, the prices for this set from third-party sellers at Amazon range from $14.65 to $142.68.

It is odd to see the sets listed at those prices, but if they are indeed in the original heavy plastic factory shrinkwrap it's a steal.

I hope Jim Phelps will see this thread, or that somebody who has his e-mail will drop him a line about this. I'm sure he'd be interested in finally picking this up.

 
 
 Posted:   May 22, 2011 - 3:49 AM   
 By:   robtoliver   (Member)

It is odd to see the sets listed at those prices, but if they are indeed in the original heavy plastic factory shrinkwrap it's a steal.

Indeed, the price ranges are quite curious. I was sort of expecting some kind of bugdet repackaging, but I got the real deal with the pebbled pigskin case.

I had noticed the very low price at other outlets, but some of them have since returned to the $90 range, while others are still in the $15+ range.

In related NFL music news, I'm only just finding out that there is a lot of modern NFL music by Tom Hedden and David Robidoux available in MP3 format on Amazon (and presumably iTunes).

 
 
 Posted:   May 22, 2011 - 6:29 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

Most likely explanation is that it's gone OOP and those sellers are selling at closeout prices to get rid of stock. It happens all the time.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2011 - 5:17 AM   
 By:   Donna   (Member)

Thanks to Anz for pointing me here. I'm in the office now and should not click on the links. Will have to indulge later in this vintage stuff.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2011 - 9:28 PM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

Enjoy.

We'll talk more later.

I really miss Phelps on this thread and the others.

 
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