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 Posted:   Nov 22, 2010 - 5:23 PM   
 By:   king mark   (Member)

I think having the first cue "The First Seance" in clear sound is worth the price of the c.d alone. It's one of the most beautiful Williams cues ever

 
 Posted:   Nov 22, 2010 - 5:40 PM   
 By:   Ag^Janus   (Member)

Even if one doesn't care for the movie, which incidently is one movie I am extremely fond of, the score is marvelous.

It's not uncommon to read about people's extreme fondness on these boards. smile

 
 Posted:   Nov 22, 2010 - 6:07 PM   
 By:   indy4   (Member)

YES!!!! This has been my most wanted Holy Grail since I began soundtrack collecting, even in the days where we had to make due with a 30 minute Temple of Doom OST. I cannot recommend this enough for anybody on the fence. Bravo, Varese!

 
 Posted:   Nov 22, 2010 - 6:52 PM   
 By:   Maleficio   (Member)

Sounds pretty good for mono?

http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3782&p=45362#p45362

 
 Posted:   Nov 22, 2010 - 7:47 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

Finally!

A great John Williams score to a good Hitchcock film.

While my own personnal preferences gravitate towards the Bernard Herrmann- Alfred Hitchcock collaboration, this wonderful work reminds me once again of the reasons why I love film scores so much. Classy, lighthearted and nimble... John Williams in a few short words.

Cheers!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 22, 2010 - 8:47 PM   
 By:   robby bryant   (Member)

Why is Lindsay Lohan on the cover art? And why is she dressed like one of the dudes from Mad Magazines' Spy vs Spy?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 22, 2010 - 8:48 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

I'm only sorry that we have to wait until Friday for four MORE releases - we simply haven't had enough today.

 
 Posted:   Nov 22, 2010 - 8:53 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

I'm only sorry that we have to wait until Friday for four MORE releases - we simply haven't had enough today.

We'll live. smile I'm still buzzed from Family Plot and will be until I close my eyes and hear those notes coming out of my speakers for the first time.

Carrie and Family Plot are two of the greatest releases this year or of any year. I'm just exasperated from the giddy anticipation!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 22, 2010 - 8:56 PM   
 By:   That Bloke   (Member)

Incidentally, for completists who are really really COMPLETISTS, the "making of" documentary features the few seconds of music Williams composed for the open window shot that was later cut, and therefore not on the Varese CD.


How do you know? Just because some footage was cut from the film
prior to the release, does not mean the score is not completely
intact on the Varese cd. I seriously doubt this not the complete
presentation of the score - meaning everything Williams composed
for the film. Whether or not some of the music was used in the film,
is irrelevant to a score cd release, especially 35 years after the fact.

Den


The footage to which I refer was not cut from the film. The "open window shot" is in the film (cleverly it's a "rear' window too). Wiliams wrote music for it and we hear it -softly and briefly- when the scene is referenced in the documentary.

Hitchcock suggested that Williams not have music for it, explaining to Williams why. Williams understood what Hitchcock wanted to achieve by the silence. The music Williams wrote for the open window was dialled out.

Of course, the music that was dialled-out may be on the Varese release, so I may be wrong in my earlier statement when I said it was omitted from the CD. Someone slap me -hard- for my possible faux pas.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 22, 2010 - 8:58 PM   
 By:   That Bloke   (Member)

Why is Lindsay Lohan on the cover art? And why is she dressed like one of the dudes from Mad Magazines' Spy vs Spy?

LOL.

Rehab was tough for her. It really messed with her mind

 
 Posted:   Nov 22, 2010 - 9:07 PM   
 By:   Essankay   (Member)

Would kill for 'Frenzy'! Tapes exist and all that?

Let's hope so. This is a great release and I'll be very pleased to have it (and have it I shall), but FRENZY would thrill me even more. Lets make it both FRENZYs, in fact!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 22, 2010 - 9:51 PM   
 By:   king mark   (Member)

So what is the source of this c.d.? Is it really mono? Why doesn't it say in the description like it usually always does?

It doesn't affect me purchasing it but I'd like to know

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 22, 2010 - 10:26 PM   
 By:   Chris Malone   (Member)

So what is the source of this c.d.? Is it really mono? Why doesn't it say in the description like it usually always does?

It doesn't affect me purchasing it but I'd like to know


Doesn't the back cover mention the word "mixed" adjacent to Mr Matessino's name?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 22, 2010 - 10:27 PM   
 By:   quiller007   (Member)



Who ever keeps spreading this nonsense about FAMILY PLOT
being in mono needs to unclog the earwax from their cranium.
FAMILY PLOT is in glorious STEREO! Put on a good pair of headphones
and listen to the sound clips. IF there is any of it in mono, I suspect
that the track titled THE STONECUTTER might be the only mono culprit
since that is the only out-of-sequence track - placed at the end of the disc.
It might also just be a damaged cue that is also in stereo.

Den

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 22, 2010 - 10:35 PM   
 By:   king mark   (Member)

yes I can hear some instruments in stereo but I was referring to this thread:

http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3782&p=45362#p45362

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 22, 2010 - 10:54 PM   
 By:   quiller007   (Member)

yes I can hear some instruments in stereo but I was referring to this thread:

http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3782&p=45362#p45362


I saw the thread and even replied to Roger. Why he's claiming that it is mono
is strange. You can clearly hear that it's in stereo.

Den

 
 Posted:   Nov 22, 2010 - 11:35 PM   
 By:   mxmx   (Member)

In response to some emails I received and some comments here I thought I'd post some clarification. The only surviving elements for "Family Plot" are the 3-track mono mixdowns which we encounter often in scores from this period. Rather than just present mono, some very careful and attentive engineering was implemented to bring out the best of what the element offers but stopping short of things sounding weird and unbalanced... as was the case with the End Credits on the Hip-O label a while back. That release accessed the same element for that track (truncated and somehow presented at a noticeably slow speed) and you could hear there how odd it is to have all the strings on the left channel and the harpsichord on the far right.

Our booklet has a technical note explaining this a bit further, but actually Bruce Kimmel recently went into detail about this phenomenon at the Kritzerland site in discussing his "Carrie" release, explaining how you can basically get a stereo "field" but not a traditional stereo instrumental "spread." On that title he had the luxury of going beyond the 3-track mono element and back to the multi-track for a proper remix, just as FSM was able to do for "Black Sunday," but sadly no other elements from "Family Plot" were located in the Universal archives. This being the case, we worked hard to give a consistent and full-bodied sound to this long sought-after score.

Mike

 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2010 - 12:18 AM   
 By:   Josh   (Member)

...we worked hard to give a consistent and full-bodied sound to this long sought-after score.






"I don't know what's come over me tonight. I'm tingling all over."

 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2010 - 12:28 AM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

...we worked hard to give a consistent and full-bodied sound to this long sought-after score.






"I don't know what's come over me tonight. I'm tingling all over."


"I TOLD you about danger- at first it makes you SICK- Then it makes you very, very ugly." big grin

 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2010 - 12:44 AM   
 By:   Loren   (Member)

In response to some emails I received and some comments here I thought I'd post some clarification. The only surviving elements for "Family Plot" are the 3-track mono mixdowns which we encounter often in scores from this period. Rather than just present mono, some very careful and attentive engineering was implemented to bring out the best of what the element offers but stopping short of things sounding weird and unbalanced... as was the case with the End Credits on the Hip-O label a while back. That release accessed the same element for that track (truncated and somehow presented at a noticeably slow speed) and you could hear there how odd it is to have all the strings on the left channel and the harpsichord on the far right.

Our booklet has a technical note explaining this a bit further, but actually Bruce Kimmel recently went into detail about this phenomenon at the Kritzerland site in discussing his "Carrie" release, explaining how you can basically get a stereo "field" but not a traditional stereo instrumental "spread." On that title he had the luxury of going beyond the 3-track mono element and back to the multi-track for a proper remix, just as FSM was able to do for "Black Sunday," but sadly no other elements from "Family Plot" were located in the Universal archives. This being the case, we worked hard to give a consistent and full-bodied sound to this long sought-after score.

Mike


thank you Mike for your explanation. Of course Mono didn't prevent me from buying this holy grail of mine!

 
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