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Apr 4, 2013 - 10:24 AM
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Mike West
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I have the feeling Giacchino's music could be way more sophisticated and greater with more time and less computers, there is a tendency of formalisms in his music sometimes.
(The following post is made about personal preference and makes no greater overture to quality or value of anything.)
On one hand, I agree with you. Something happened to Giacchino's music at some point (the first Call Of Duty score comes to mind) where its become "sour" to my ears. Much more simple, much more lackadaisical and simply "comments action on the screen" instead of "emotionally resonating".
Goldsmith said you don't score the gallop of the horse, you score the fear of the rider. And Giacchino seems to do the opposite.
He still has some gems - John Carter and Speed Racer come to mind - but they still seem "thin". However, I think this has to do with simply being burned out writing so much music for Lost and then taking on movies and just having "little ink left in the pen". Every creative person hits that point where its just too damn much, you know?
And then, if you look at the scores you say "lack sophistication", they seem to be all by the same people, for the same genre, in a movie written in the same way. So I think the other thing is that Giacchino is giving those people exactly the kind of score they want... and it works as "movie music" and less as "music music".
I hope some of that makes sense.
Interesting point of view.
Not 'lack of sophistication', hard to say, there is a lot of sophistication. Every element could be more integrated with every other element. And sometimes for my taste there are not enough elements actually, could be more flesh around the bones.
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Apr 4, 2013 - 10:42 AM
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Mike West
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Not 'lack of sophistication', hard to say, there is a lot of sophistication. Every element could be more integrated with every other element. And sometimes for my taste there are not enough elements actually, could be more flesh around the bones.
I knew what you meant. The music is certainly sophisticated but its as if its "unfinished" or "doesn't quite get to where it needs to go emotionally".
Music is very hard to ascertain and break down logically. For me, anyway.
Right, unfinished! Not only emotionally, also speaking of structure and orchestration, though that is a matter of taste, time, scene etc....
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Could it be that Giacchino's music "sounds thin" because of the recording engineer?!
Thats a separate issue - by "thin", I meant the orchestrations were "less full" than, say, the first two Medal Of Honor games - but I should've been more clear.
I think both are problems, really. Wallin is still doing Giacchino's stuff, right? Whatever the reason, it all sounds so treble-heavy (which apparently is all the rage in Japan?) that the action music just comes across as shrill and bangy (something I say every single time I mention Giacchino anymore).
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(strokes beard)
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If you listen to the videos that Giacchino has been tweeting from yesterday's recording sessions for the end credits, you can already hear the difference, actually.
Also, if you listen to Giacchino's pre-Wallin scores such as the Medal of Honor series, they sound DRASTICALLY different than the Wallin-era Giacchino.
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If you listen to the videos that Giacchino has been tweeting from yesterday's recording sessions for the end credits, you can already hear the difference, actually.
Also, if you listen to Giacchino's pre-Wallin scores such as the Medal of Honor series, they sound DRASTICALLY different than the Wallin-era Giacchino.
Absolutely on the second point. The orchestra sounds warm and full on the Medal Of Honor scores.
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Someone should do a Kickstarter to move Steve Smith to L.A.
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Fantasic post Erik, thank you for that insight.
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