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THE FUGITIVE
FAT is correct, Kemo Sabe!
brm
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Surprised no one mentioned Blade Runner.
That one too! While I adored the 25th anniversary album (compared to what we had for the original soundtrack release), it still pained me that a moderate amount of significant music was MIA. Similar to John Williams, Vangelis's modesty about his own work seems counterproductive to the possibilities a complete album can offer.
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I don't know about worst but certainly the most disappointing for me was John Barry's Mary, Queen Of Scots score on the original MCA album (and replicated on CD by Intrada). There is so much of Barry's score that didn't make it on to the album including my favorite music cue from the film, the piece of music accompanying Robert Dudley's (Daniel Massey) return to Elizabeth I (Glenda Jackson) after being rejected by Mary (Vanessa Redgrave).
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I don't know about worst but certainly the most disappointing for me was John Barry's Mary, Queen Of Scots score on the original MCA album (and replicated on CD by Intrada). There is so much of Barry's score that didn't make it on to the album including my favorite music cue from the film, the piece of music accompanying Robert Dudley's (Daniel Massey) return to Elizabeth I (Glenda Jackson) after being rejected by Mary (Vanessa Redgrave).
Once again you have to take into account the time of when this was released.
30 minute LPS were very common at the time.
Now while this album was short, every track was gold as far as I'm concerned
Ford A. Thaxton
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Another Morricone western score with a rather bad presentation on CD is My Name Is Nobody, at least in my opinion (I'm sure that most of you don't agree with me on this though). For example; none of the film versions of the superb duel music are avaialble on the expanded Screentrax CD from 2000.
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Is n't Track 16 the music from the final duel that was not included on the original lp.?
bruce
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Elliot Goldenthal's BATMAN & ROBIN. Believe me, it's really bad...almost amateur even. Batman Forever is so much better, IMHO.
iirc there is no score on that album!!!!
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djintrepid
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The Fugitive by JNH, Outbreak by JNH, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade by JW, are probably the ones I was upset by most. So much great music from the films left off of the albums.
The Original albums of both THE FUGITIVE and INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE were both quite good as I recall.
INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE was 58:43 when it was released in 1989 which was pretty damned good for that time period.
THE FUGITIVE was 41:31 which was quite good given it was an AFM recorded score, I was never very unhappy with it in that form.
OUTBREAK was fairly short due to AFM Fees for going longer then 30 minutes.
Ford A. Thaxton
In thinking soberly today, I realized that the Last Crusade should not have been on that list at all. Even though it left out many passages that I liked in the film, what WAS on the album was great, it was more music than the typical length of soundtrack albums at the time, and I listened to it over and over again for many years. So, I retract that from my list. The other two can stay.
I'm really glad The Fugitive was released in completion and I really HOPE that Outbreak gets an expanded release some day.
Why does original release of THE FUGITIVE even on this list?
It was about 41 minutes, covers most of the main highlights of the score, sounds rather good even with the violins on the right side..
It's a very well produced album.
Wh are you pissing on it?
Ford A. Thaxton
I did not and still do not feel it was representative of the score as a whole. It disappointed me so much I threw it away not long after I bought it. The same goes for Outbreak. I only did that to a few scores I ever bought.
Thankfully, I have the ability to listen to most scores in entirety now, or nearly so, before I buy. Not like it was then where you HAD to buy it to hear it, unless you went to a Blockbuster Music store, one of the only places that let you pick a CD to listen to in entirety without any promise to buy.
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I did not and still do not feel it was representative of the score as a whole. It disappointed me so much I threw it away not long after I bought it. The same goes for Outbreak. I only did that to a few scores I ever bought.
Wow, two years are a bit more mature then you appear to be based that statement.
I'll let it speak for your character and leave it at that.
Ford A. Thaxton
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This discussion board is a gathering place for people to talk about what they like and what they don't like.
In most of these cases, Ford, it appears the "market" has spoken (whether you like it or not, unfortunately).
God forbid that someone should point out that this person's opinion is to say the least, pretty crazy..
I'm sorry, but as far as I'm concerned, some opinions are just worthless when coming from immature and ill-informed forks.
This guy is really a great case of that...
I also judge these releases within the context of the time they were produced.
In the case of THE FUGITIVE, we got a 41 minute orchestral score recorded with a AFM orchestra when the rates were through the roof.
I"m sorry, but this album is rather well produced for the era it was released.
I'm sorry, but that's just the cold hard facts of the matter.
TI'm certain I'm not alone in thinking that if you take it upon yourself to try and defend each case of an unsatisfied customer, not only will you wear your typing fingers down to the bone, you will also accrue an amount of ill-will that could never be resolved in one lifetime.
I'm sure all of us score-lovers here would want all that energy directed towards producing more great releases.
I do that everyday..
But I can also offer my opinions, which more often then not are a tad better informed on the facts when folks like this guy.
I'm fairly gentle these days, but if my views upset you, then I'm doing something right.
Ford A. Thaxton
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I'm sure all of us score-lovers here would want all that energy directed towards producing more great releases.
LOL!!!
Ford A. Thaxton
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I'm fairly gentle these days, but if my views upset you, then I'm doing something right.
Ford A. Thaxton
It's not a question of what's upsetting to people, Ford.
Criticism of the artform is permitted (even if it's sometimes perceived to be harsh or, as you say, uninformed).
Insulting members isn't.
Them's the rules.
And, once again, I emphasize that I'm saying this because I don't want another thread to go down the loo when it's so preventable.
Would you like some cheese with you whine?
:-)
I'm sorry, i'm cursed to have a memory and the talent to try and judge things with what I hope is the proper context.
Example: Bitching about a album produced in 1993 that is 41 minutes along that was recorded in LA with AFM players produced by the composer who choose what selections from the score he wrote and produced and which cost a small fortune to release and then bitching about it because it's not longer means one of two things...
1.) You don't understand the limits of what record companies in that era and the costs involved just means you are ill-informed and offering an ILL-INFORMED OPINION, that happens and most folks when given given this information will understand why this album was done the way it was.
2.) When after being provided with this information you still call it "The Worst Presentation of a score ever" because it didn't have want you wanted, just means you are a spoiled brat who really needs to get a clue.
That about sums it up IMHO.
Ford A. Thaxton
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Ford,
The "fanboy delusion" I was referring to is Octoberman's suggestion that you might channel the energy you use to argue with people on this message board into producing soundtracks.
Josh
Well, we have enough folks who post who suffer from that on the board as is..
In humor there is often great truth.
:-)
Ford A. Thaxton
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