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 Posted:   Apr 13, 2007 - 2:17 AM   
 By:   JSDouglas   (Member)



I caught it on TCM last year. Nice, taut thriller with one of my all-time favorites, Stanley Baker (not to mention a brief part for Sean Connery). Add Herbert Lom, David McCallum, Patrick McGoohan, Jill Ireland, and Gordon Jackson and it becomes a must-see.

Endfield's ZULU is also a must-see. It's tough to decide whether that or MYSTERIOUS ISLAND is his greatest legacy, but I have to go with MYSTERIOUS for obvious reasons.


HELL DRIVERS does have a great cast (Peggy Cummins, too). It's one of my favorite Patrick McGoohan performances.

From what I have viewed so far, Endfield is a master with ensemble casts and maintaining a brisk pace in his films. He was one of the better directors to work with Harryhausen for this reason. He kept the rest of the film as exciting as the animation sequences.

Of course, having a Bernard Herrmann score always helps maintain energy! One of my favorite music passages is the balloon journey leading to the island - I'm greatly looking forward to hearing it on this new recording. Well, shucks - what's not to look forward to?

 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2007 - 2:20 AM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)



HELL DRIVERS does have a great cast (Peggy Cummins, too). It's one of my favorite Patrick McGoohan performances.

From what I have viewed so far, Endfield is a master with ensemble casts and maintaining a brisk pace in his films. He was one of the better directors to work with Harryhausen for this reason. He kept the rest of the film as exciting as the animation sequences.

Of course, having a Bernard Herrmann score always helps maintain energy! One of my favorite music passages is the balloon journey leading to the island - I'm greatly looking forward to hearing it on this new recording. Well, shucks - what's not to look forward to?


Great observations! As to your last comment, Your right!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2007 - 2:56 PM   
 By:   JSDouglas   (Member)



Great observations! As to your last comment, Your right!


Nice of you to say, STEVENJ.

I've always been a big supporter of the efforts of John Morgan and William Stromberg to enrich the catalog of recorded film music.

I'm relieved after a dry spell that more stuff is coming from this dynamic duo!

 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2007 - 9:07 PM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

IMHO MI is a far superior film to CITIZEN KANE.
For one thing. it's in color...


Ooooh...I can imagine you grabbing air trying to capture those sparkly colors when the film is playing.

 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2007 - 5:51 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)



Ooooh...I can imagine you grabbing air trying to capture those sparkly colors when the film is playing.



You had ten days to respond and that's the best you can come up with?!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2007 - 8:44 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

...it did give me an overview of the creature effects. As I said, these were probably impressive at the time (like KING KONG or METROPOLIS), but in retrospect they DO look a bit cheesy for ME (that's the drawback of effects-heavy films...

Why do some people consider early forms of visual arts as "cheesy"?

Because a technical aspect has developed in time, an earlier effort is no less praiseworthy or valid. In fact, the early version is probably even MORE praiseworthy as it achieved its aims without the benefit of decades-worth of further innovations.

Is Renaissance painting "cheesy" to you because most of the artists hadn't yet discovered how to represent perspective?

If you go to a theatre, do you consider a play "cheesy" because actors walk through on-stage doors when they could simply walk around the prop doorway?

If a viewer wants imagination from artists, it's helpful if the viewer has some of his own.



 
 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2007 - 9:11 PM   
 By:   Tom Barnaby   (Member)

Speaking of Cy Endfield, anyone out there ever see HELL DRIVERS?


Thought you might want to know about the Region 2 DVD release.

http://www.networkdvd.co.uk/product.php?GROUP_ID=27&PROD_ID=519

 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2007 - 9:40 PM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)



You had ten days to respond and that's the best you can come up with?!


It was quite APT!

And who appointed you as time cop for responding to threads? Beyond the initial few posts, I was done with the thread. Only when Thor referred to this thread in another thread (saying he had been unjustly maligned, misunderstood and generally abused/bruised for his comments about "Mysterious Island" here), I just had to take another look.

Looky-loo done, I could not have added one syllable more to the fine job respondents to Thor's thread had already posted.

And then....there was your post.

I'm certain the colors are your favorites....at least you can see those. When you grasp for the notes you hear playing you're at a disadvantage.

 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2007 - 10:23 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)



It was quite APT!

And who appointed you as time cop for responding to threads? Beyond the initial few posts, I was done with the thread. Only when Thor referred to this thread in another thread (saying he had been unjustly maligned, misunderstood and genrally abused/bruised for his comments about "Mysterious Islandd" here), I just had to take another look.

Looky-loo done, I could not have added one syllable more to the fine job respondents to Thor's thread had already posted.

And then....there was your post.

I'm certain the colors are your favorites....at least you can see those. When you grasp for the notes you hear playing you're at a disadvantage.



I have no idea what you are talking about , but I will defend to the death your right to say it!

Bruce "Timecop" Marshall

 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2007 - 10:54 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)



Why do some people consider early forms of visual arts as "cheesy"?

Because a technical aspect has developed in time, an earlier effort is no less praiseworthy or valid. In fact, the early version is probably even MORE praiseworthy as it achieved its aims without the benefit of decades-worth of further innovations.

Is Renaissance painting "cheesy" to you because most of the artists hadn't yet discovered how to represent perspective?

If you go to a theatre, do you consider a play "cheesy" because actors walk through on-stage doors when they could simply walk around the prop doorway?

If a viewer wants imagination from artists, it's helpful if the viewer has some of his own.





Well thought out and expressed.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2010 - 10:51 AM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

Ain't I a "stinker"!

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2010 - 11:27 AM   
 By:   Mark Ford   (Member)

Talk about a pregnant pause Ron!

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2010 - 11:57 AM   
 By:   Mark Ford   (Member)

When this thread ran I wasn't actively participating on the boards at the time so I missed it.

Mysterious Island is probably my all time favorite score coming from my favorite movie as a kid. What Tribute has done is phenomenal with this score. The playing and recorded sound is amazing and true to the spirit of the music and the film. Although there are tons of smaller cues it never sounds disjointed as they flow seamlessly together much like in a suite.

This is full blooded Herrmann at its finest containing a number of musical set pieces that stand alone perfectly on their own as concert pieces: The Giant Crab, the Bird, The Giant Bee. The complete score with unused and restored cues is more than I could have ever hoped for. And, I love the cover artwork and would hang it on my wall if I could...even though the balloon is full and not deflated Bill! wink

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2010 - 2:26 PM   
 By:   William Stromberg   (Member)

And, I love the cover artwork and would hang it on my wall if I could...even though the balloon is full and not deflated Bill! wink



Did I tell you that story? That's funny Mark

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2010 - 2:37 PM   
 By:   Mark Ford   (Member)

And, I love the cover artwork and would hang it on my wall if I could...even though the balloon is full and not deflated Bill! wink

Did I tell you that story? That's funny Mark


Yep, you did at dinner when I told you how much I loved the cover. Maybe all of that beer we had made the memory of it a bit fuzzy!

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2010 - 2:54 PM   
 By:   William Stromberg   (Member)

And, I love the cover artwork and would hang it on my wall if I could...even though the balloon is full and not deflated Bill! wink

Did I tell you that story? That's funny Mark


Yep, you did at dinner when I told you how much I loved the cover. Maybe all of that beer we had made the memory of it a bit fuzzy!


Cool. I'll have to have posters made of all of our cd covers. I want em.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2010 - 3:02 PM   
 By:   Mark Ford   (Member)

And, I love the cover artwork and would hang it on my wall if I could...even though the balloon is full and not deflated Bill! wink

Did I tell you that story? That's funny Mark


Yep, you did at dinner when I told you how much I loved the cover. Maybe all of that beer we had made the memory of it a bit fuzzy!


Cool. I'll have to have posters made of all of our cd covers. I want em.


That would be super since they are all so classy looking and beautiful. I'd buy them if a few were made available. I have a long hallway upstairs with nothing on it and I could turn it into a Tribute gallery. Would that be going too far?! smile

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2010 - 3:12 PM   
 By:   William Stromberg   (Member)


That would be super since they are all so classy looking and beautiful. I'd buy them if a few were made available. I have a long hallway upstairs with nothing on it and I could turn it into a Tribute gallery. Would that be going too far?! smile


Anna and I were just talking about the same thing. We have a whole hallway just waiting for them. We'll do it after we get the two new ones to add.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2010 - 3:20 PM   
 By:   Mark Ford   (Member)


That would be super since they are all so classy looking and beautiful. I'd buy them if a few were made available. I have a long hallway upstairs with nothing on it and I could turn it into a Tribute gallery. Would that be going too far?! smile


Anna and I were just talking about the same thing. We have a whole hallway just waiting for them. We'll do it after we get the two new ones to add.


Excellent! That will be give me enough time for my money laundering scheme in the Grand Caymans to start paying off so I can afford to adorn the house with some new artwork!

By the way, I'm listening to M. I. as I type and out of the blue on a whim last week I changed my avatar to a familiar face. I guess I should watch the DVD again soon too.

 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2011 - 10:08 AM   
 By:   Adam.   (Member)

I'm a little late to the party on this CD but I'm glad I finally bought it. It's a beautifully produced package and a first class presentation. Some of the tracks end rather abruptly but that's a minor quibble considering the overall recording. A mix of some of the original tracks from the Cloud Nine release along with the bulk of the tracks from this CD makes for a great complete score listening experience. Thanks to Mr. Stromberg and to all who worked on this.

 
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