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 Posted:   Dec 11, 2013 - 12:57 AM   
 By:   eggerty31   (Member)

Well..... whatever it is I'm looking forward to it. I've loved their re-recordings so far so I'm sure that whatever the title is it'll be good.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2013 - 6:13 AM   
 By:   juhana   (Member)

Hmmm... the 2CD (and really terrible-sounding) Digitmovies SODOM AND GOMORAH is around 95 minutes long, if one excludes the bonus alternate takes. Coincidence?
If any Rozsa epic score is in need of a re-recording, it's this one.


But wasn't the Digitmovies still missing some tracks that appear in the film, such as the intermission card and about half (?) of the dam battle music? A rerecording of S&G would definitely be longer than 95 minutes, even if alternates and the like were left off.

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2013 - 6:39 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

What other non-Goldsmith scores clocking in around 95 minutes might warrant a rerecording?


Maybe it's The Ten Commandments wink)) or Spirit of St. Luis but either of those would be a bit longer... probably.
Personally speaking, I'd love to have Lost Horizon re-recording one day... or maybe Tiomkin's Land of the Pharaohs, which could really benefit from new recording... but those would require some major forces and would be sooo expensive to do... but that haven't stopped James and Prometheus before with their Fall of the Roman Empire for example. Maybe one day or maybe very soon. smile

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2013 - 6:49 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

The trick with these things is to examine closely the rollcall of posters.

If there's anyone in on these things and sworn to secrecy, they'll be notably absent from threads like this.

I myself have no clue.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2013 - 10:46 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

Sodom and Gamorah and Land of the Pharaohs both would be an instant buy for me.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2013 - 10:48 AM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

Oh please let Tadlow's next Goldsmith release be a new recording of "Q.B.VII"!!!

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2013 - 12:37 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)


But wasn't the Digitmovies still missing some tracks that appear in the film, such as the intermission card and about half (?) of the dam battle music? A rerecording of S&G would definitely be longer than 95 minutes, even if alternates and the like were left off.


That's a good point -- any S&G recording would I'm sure include that extra music that didn't survive in the original recording, and would almost certainly total more than 95 minutes all together.

James has often spoken with enthusiasm about the prospect of tackling a complete War Lord, and this is (the end of) Moross's big centennial year, so perhaps he really pushed for it? There'd be no better time for it...

Here's something in James Fitzpatrick's own words, nearly three years ago in his Taras Bulba thread: "I've always wanted to do a complete WAR LORD... so let's see if finances hold out a wee bit longer before I retire from this recording lark "

AND: "Well already did a long suite many years ago in Prague ....I think that turned out really well (?) despite being recorded at a time when the orchestra were not so good? (I never said that ...they have alays been a fine orchestra, it is just that now they are a great orchestra and in the view of Nic Raine as good as any of the many orchestras he has conducted in Germany, France, Sovakia, Spain, UK etc... and he regards their string sound as the very best)
So imagine how well they could do the complete WAR LORD now !!! "

Also his original response to my inquiry in that thread: "Sorry not WAR LORD ...yet "

One more interesting tidbit from James:
"I agree that if done then the Salter cues would certainly have to be included" -- which would certainly guarantee a two disc set as this must be since it's 95 minutes

Source: http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=3&threadID=75318&archive=0

What do you guys think? Is there anything else he's spoken this enthusastically about in the past, which would fit, time-wise, with 95 minutes? (How long is the complete score to Jesus of Nazareth?)

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2013 - 12:44 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)


What do you guys think?



From those quotes, it all points to The War Lord.

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2013 - 1:12 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)


From those quotes, it all points to The War Lord.


With the caveat that this was all said almost three years ago, while the Tadlow label was still active and James didn't have to rely on Luc at Prometheus to like a score enough to fund it, so who knows? I look forward to finding out soon! It would make sense to bump the expected third release in the Goldsmith series (Black Patch/Face of a Fugitive?) to next year, in order to make room for this release in time for the Moross Centenary.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2013 - 2:53 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

With the caveat that this was all said almost three years ago, while the Tadlow label was still active and James didn't have to rely on Luc at Prometheus to like a score enough to fund it, so who knows?

That's a significant caveat. Between that time and the two recent Goldsmiths, Mr. Fitzpatrick repeatedly said that he was likely done with the rerecordings, for purely financial reasons. "The War Lord," worthy though it is, seems an unlikely title to turn that around.

Also, his enthusiasm pointing to "War Lord" is certainly redolent of MV's enthusiasm for "Tales From the Crypt" proving that was their box set.

But as you say, who knows? I certainly do not. But I am intrigued.

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2013 - 3:14 PM   
 By:   La La Land Records   (Member)


What do you guys think?



From those quotes, it all points to The War Lord.


With all due respect to Mr. Moross, why would ANYONE spend a MINIMUM of $50k on a re-recording to a score like War Lord? Hell, I have thousands of scores in my collection dating from Silents to now and War Lord (the Varese release) ain't even one of them. That truly would be insane to release.

MV

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2013 - 3:18 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Well, John has already shown he's crazy by dumping tens of thousands of dollars into these that he never recoups...it just matters whether Luc is as crazy. I mean, The Alamo sold poorly and I'm sure that was one of their MOST expensive to record...

And we already know that James *wants* to do it -- he's said so, as I quoted.

So why don't you like The War Lord? I think it's excellent...

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2013 - 3:20 PM   
 By:   jonathan_little   (Member)

I love Moross and all but The War Lord makes no sense. What would that sell, 250 copies?

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2013 - 3:24 PM   
 By:   La La Land Records   (Member)

Well, John has already shown he's crazy by dumping tens of thousands of dollars into these that he never recoups...it just matters whether Luc is as crazy. I mean, The Alamo sold poorly and I'm sure that was one of their MOST expensive to record...

And we already know that James *wants* to do it -- he's said so, as I quoted.

So why don't you like The War Lord? I think it's excellent...

Yavar


I don't think The Alamo sold too poorly.

Luc is a smart guy when it comes to business. He understands the market and invests his money wisely.

As wonderful as The War Lord might be, its not the kind of title many people go "WOW, I have to buy that NOW!" over.

Look at The Jayhawkers by Intrada -- I highly doubt that sold more than 1500 copies...and it's a classic WESTERN (i.e. Has a broader appeal)!

Crazy and foolish are two different things.

MV

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2013 - 3:41 PM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

My guess is QB VII (Goldsmith) which would be a spectacular release.

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2013 - 3:51 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Well, John has already shown he's crazy by dumping tens of thousands of dollars into these that he never recoups...it just matters whether Luc is as crazy. I mean, The Alamo sold poorly and I'm sure that was one of their MOST expensive to record...

And we already know that James *wants* to do it -- he's said so, as I quoted.

So why don't you like The War Lord? I think it's excellent...

Yavar


I don't think The Alamo sold too poorly.

Luc is a smart guy when it comes to business. He understands the market and invests his money wisely.

As wonderful as The War Lord might be, its not the kind of title many people go "WOW, I have to buy that NOW!" over.


I could say the same about Steiner's She or Herrmann's Kentuckian or Neretva...but that didn't stop Tribute from doing them. Yes, I know Tribute isn't active any more...

At least The War Lord is an epic, which I thought was as popular a genre as westerns. Anyway, it may never happen, but if it's ever going to, I think this centenary year is more likely than any other one...

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2013 - 4:00 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

My guess is QB VII (Goldsmith) which would be a spectacular release.

That's my number one want, too! But then that means we have two scores coming up by a different composer, according to a later comment James made in that thread.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2013 - 4:00 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Dp

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2013 - 4:03 PM   
 By:   paul rossen   (Member)

Well, John has already shown he's crazy by dumping tens of thousands of dollars into these that he never recoups...it just matters whether Luc is as crazy. I mean, The Alamo sold poorly and I'm sure that was one of their MOST expensive to record...

And we already know that James *wants* to do it -- he's said so, as I quoted.

So why don't you like The War Lord? I think it's excellent...

Yavar


I don't think The Alamo sold too poorly.

Luc is a smart guy when it comes to business. He understands the market and invests his money wisely.

As wonderful as The War Lord might be, its not the kind of title many people go "WOW, I have to buy that NOW!" over.


I could say the same about Steiner's She or Herrmann's Kentuckian or Neretva...but that didn't stop Tribute from doing them. Yes, I know Tribute isn't active any more...




At least The War Lord is an epic, which I thought was as popular a genre as westerns. Anyway, it may never happen, but if it's ever going to, I think this centenary year is more likely than any other one...



Yavar


I really don't believe it is THE WAR LORD per the reasons stated above. I'll be very surprised if it's not QBv11

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2013 - 4:14 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Who in the world even knows it's Moross's centenary? I have a whole bunch of his CDs, and I didn't know. The only reason to time a release to coincide with an anniversary like that is to capitalize on the ensuing publicity, and there is none about poor Jerome.

 
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