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 Posted:   Apr 4, 2013 - 12:55 PM   
 By:   Mike West   (Member)

I think it's fairly obvious that Giacchino likes his music to sound a certain way so I don't think a new recording engineer is going to change that.

Yes, it will. Roar! (recorded by Peter Fuchs) sounds drastically different than anything Wallin has recorded for Giacchino. Giacchino choose Iwataki because Wallin wasn't available. Giacchino must have heard something he liked in Iwataki's previous recordings, whether a Tyler or Goldenthal recording, to bring him on board for this project. I'm willing to bet that this is going to sound much fuller and bigger than Giacchino's first Trek score.

A raw orchestra recording is not what you are going to hear on the album. And change of sound after Medal of Honor just shows that he liked Wallin's work and stuck with it.

Well, he had to pick someone because Steve Smith (who recorded Giacchino's MOH, Secret Weapons scores) is a Seattle based engineer. I'm sure he would have still worked with Smith if he lived in California. And if I'm not mistaken (I might be) Giacchino has also worked with Armin Steiner.

-Erik-


That sounds great

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2013 - 1:03 PM   
 By:   John Mullin   (Member)

Joel Iwataki is recording Star Trek Into Darkness.

I'm not a Giacchino fan, usually (in part because of how terrible most of his albums sound) but this news is the first thing I've heard about this score which actually makes me interested in hearing it.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2013 - 10:02 PM   
 By:   desplatfan1   (Member)

Are you sure JW did that on Tintin? Maybe there are traces of it in the later tracks on the cd.

Well, most of the leaked sheets of Tintin are typeset, and not handwritten (Except for a few sketches).

 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2013 - 12:53 PM   
 By:   MerM   (Member)

Amazon link: www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Into-Darkness-OSC/dp/B00C7O8MJ8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1365187923&sr=8-3

17.98? That's, uh... that's going to go down a little, right?

 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2013 - 1:09 PM   
 By:   David-R.   (Member)

Amazon link: www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Into-Darkness-OSC/dp/B00C7O8MJ8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1365187923&sr=8-3

17.98? That's, uh... that's going to go down a little, right?


Usually does. I wouldn't worry. The Iron Man 3 soundtrack started at around $16 and right now is $10.

 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2013 - 1:21 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

Are you sure JW did that on Tintin? Maybe there are traces of it in the later tracks on the cd.

Well, most of the leaked sheets of Tintin are typeset, and not handwritten (Except for a few sketches).


Those typeset sheets are fan made, not made by anyone who actually worked on the film. I've seen the sketches and orchestrated sheets for Tintin and they are hand-written as always.

 
 Posted:   Apr 10, 2013 - 2:32 PM   
 By:   David-R.   (Member)

Well, it's actually up another dollar to $18.88. Huh.

Someone thought this might be a 2-disc album, since SAE had it for pre-order at $19.95, but the Amazon listing says that it's 1-disc album.

 
 Posted:   Apr 10, 2013 - 2:47 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

Why not go to the source? It's $16.98 at Varèse -- pretty standard for them.

 
 Posted:   Apr 10, 2013 - 2:51 PM   
 By:   David-R.   (Member)

Why not go to the source? It's $16.98 at Varèse -- pretty standard for them.

Yeah, I saw that too. But they've put out 2-disc albums at near 1-disc album prices (see: House of Cards).
Most likely there will be another Deluxe Edition coming our way, with the first one selling its entire 5,000-print run in just a few months.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 10, 2013 - 2:54 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

His first score was workman like, good, but somehow I am not as impressed as some people are. I felt it was not especially inspired or innovative in context of Trek scores of the past, but it works in the film.

 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2013 - 2:20 PM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

Well, it's actually up another dollar to $18.88. Huh.

Someone thought this might be a 2-disc album, since SAE had it for pre-order at $19.95, but the Amazon listing says that it's 1-disc album.



In the meantime SAE has changed the price to regular 14,95... so most likely we'll have to wait for some deluxe presentation for a while.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2013 - 9:17 AM   
 By:   Chris Avis   (Member)

A fairly significant update on the score from TrekMovie, including a clip of Giacchino performing the villain's theme from the new movie...

http://trekmovie.com/2013/04/14/michael-giacchino-gives-star-trek-into-darkness-score-movie-details-listen-to-clip-of-harrisons-theme-from-stid-more/

 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2013 - 10:35 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Is he wearing a Captains Starfleet uniform? Not bad. I appreciate what he is doing especially when it comes to bringing back that orchestra sound. Though I still think he needs to flesh out his musical ideas a bit more. I did enjoy the first score quite a bit. So hopefully this will grow on me.

 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2013 - 10:50 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

" So the music is quite different. It is quite darker. It is more internal. It is not as celebratory as [Star Trek 2009] is in many moments."

Okay, Michael Giacchino, you've piqued my interested.

 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2013 - 2:14 PM   
 By:   foxmorty   (Member)

waiting for this particular movie and score has been particularly torturous. i'm ready! love what i am hearing in that clip.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2013 - 2:35 PM   
 By:   tarasis   (Member)

" So the music is quite different. It is quite darker. It is more internal. It is not as celebratory as [Star Trek 2009] is in many moments."

Okay, Michael Giacchino, you've piqued my interested.


I don't think in any universe I'd describe the first score as celebratory, still it's all sounding interesting. Hopefully it will get an expanded release.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2013 - 2:57 PM   
 By:   Ant   (Member)

I'll just leave this here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb7G_VxzZM4

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2013 - 2:11 AM   
 By:   Mike West   (Member)

very interesting, I like the symphonic treatment of the theme in the shorter clip very much, actually noone today is writing such kind of old-school-symphonic-movement in film scores.
I always felt that is something for example some of the Lord of the Rings themes are lacking, there is no symphonic movement on the fellowship theme, and it is very hard to write one. That's why that LotR symphony is basically a compilation of cues, not actual symphonic treatments of themes.

Well back on-topic, I like that symphonic form as a fully developed movement to present a theme.

The longer clip demonstrates that Giacchino sticks to his very simple themes and orchestrations for long sections in his themes. That's pretty effective and his own style by now,
but for my taste it feels a bit "unfinished" and though it is catchy when listening to it for the first time it wears off and for my taste it loses attractions very soon, for example the simplicities in Let me in and also the simple cues in John Carter. A bit more counterpoint, a bit more rhythmic complexity, a bit more confronting details in orchestrations and it would not wear off I think.

This is of course complaining on a very high level and based on the 7 minutes end credits music excerpt (which is a theme-treatment), no need to feel offended.
I admire Giacchino extraordinarily, he is brillant.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2013 - 3:33 AM   
 By:   Willgoldnewtonbarrygrusin   (Member)

And I am grateful that Abrams still wants this kind of score in his films and Giacchino is able to provide it.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2013 - 4:06 AM   
 By:   Zeno Cosini3   (Member)

I hope it'll be a better score this time. Wasn't satisfied with the last STAR TREK score. To my ears far away from the class of Goldsmith, Horner and Rosenman...

 
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