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I still think it depends on how "big" the title is. Intrada did get The Black Cauldron and more recently, the first Tinker Bell. Both had previous releases (though The Black Cauldron was a re-recording and not the original tracks which were premiered by Intrada, and Tinker Bell only had about 10 minutes of McNeely's work on a largely song-dominated CD). You're right that Mulan *probably* qualifies as a big title, but who knows? I'm sure we'll see an expansion of Broughton's The Rescuers Down Under from Intrada before we see it from the new Disney series, for example, and that is technically an Animated Classic just as much as Mulan is. Yavar
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You're going to keep doing that even after it gets released, aren't you? Yes, I'm excited for that one too. I seem to recall people did the same with Alien and Spartacus years back...I guess I understand them still doing it for Spartacus! Yavar
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Well I'm late in updating this but it's certainly exciting news and worth mentioning! The unexpanded Goldsmith 90s scores are rapidly dwindling (at least those not put out by Varese and probably owned by them in perpetuity). Removed from the main post: "Deep Rising (Hollywood Records --> Disney) -- not sure if this is one many would clamor for but it'd be Intrada territory only. I guess Varese has also dealt with Disney but if they can't be even bothered to release complete versions of all the great 90s scores they own perpetuity rights to why would they bother licensing this?" While I'm surprised that this was the first of the three Hollywood Records albums for Intrada to expand, Powder and especially The Ghost and the Darkness being much bigger fan favorites, I for one am ecstatic to see this and it means the other two are most likely on their way! Yavar
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Well I'm late in updating this but it's certainly exciting news and worth mentioning! The unexpanded Goldsmith 90s scores are rapidly dwindling (at least those not put out by Varese and probably owned by them in perpetuity). From those not owned by Varese, The Ghost and the Darkness is my last holy grail. So many cool stuff was left of the album. Also remember the music was more aggresive in the film. The River Wild would also be good, but only cause I don't own the original release. While I would buy an expanded The Mummy, it's not very high on my list. The original release contains almost all of the highlights. As for the Varese releases, the ones I would love to see are Small Soldiers, The Haunting and L.A. Confidential. Here's hoping to see come club releases soon
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While they weren't exactly expanded, I thought this thread deserved a bump due to two important recent Goldsmith reissues: First, Kritzerland put out a new version of the original Rio Conchos recording, painstakingly restored to stereo (except for three cues) by Michael Mattessino. This is a major restoration and though there was no new music to include the sound is vastly improved over the prior FSM (mostly mono) release! 1200 copies promptly sold out from Kritzerland but as of this writing it can still be had from other online stores like SAE and Intrada. Second, Intrada has given us the first official CD issue of the two Flint album recordings (Our Man Flint, In Like Flint). Again, there's no "new" music per se, but both of these were unique and distinct from the film recordings which Varese premiered in the mid-90s. The last time they'd been out was in the late 80s on cassette and LP, but surprisingly not CD, so this is an important premiere for them and Intrada was finally able to locate the original master tapes of the sessions so they sound amazing (far superior to the Varese release, which as mentioned was a separate recording anyway). This is also something of a milestone because if I'm not mistaken, these were the last remaining unique LP recordings of Goldsmith's which hadn't made it to CD yet (not counting a foreign bootleg which was almost certainly mastered from LP). I had written in the main post: "Our Man Flint / In Like Flint -- the Varese release was not complete and according to the folks at Intrada, Varese keep the rights to the original film recordings but the two LP recordings are still owned by UMG and Doug or Roger said Intrada will be putting those out eventually. Hopefully Varese will follow suit with the film recordings, but if they don't at least we have the complete scores preserved, isolated on Twilight Time Blu-rays." I have modified this since all that remains unreleased on CD are the film recordings now. I wonder if we'll get any more significant Goldsmith releases before the end of the year. Maybe Varese will get off their butts and start giving us some Goldsmith they control, like complete versions of The Other and these two Flint scores, since the restoration work was already done by Mike Mattessino for the Twilight Time Blu-ray isolated tracks. Not to mention all the great 90s Goldsmith scores Varese controls in perpetuity as well... Yavar
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With Disney's new deluxe series of soundtrack reissues tied to anniversaries, I suspect that Mulan will be coming out in that series (assuming that it continues) in 2-3 years. It'd be great if Intrada got it to complete their "Goldsmith at Disney" releases, but Mulan may be considered a high-profile animated title. But hey, I was surprised when Intrada released the original tracks to The Black Cauldron as well as when they put out McNeely's superb first Tinkerbell score, so it's possible. I do have an update on Goldsmith re-recordings for those who missed the news: James Fitzpatrick has said that next year he will be producing a Goldsmith 2 CD set for his own label Tadlow music (not for Prometheus as with his first three Goldsmith rerecordings). Go here for further details: http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=93066&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=5&r=738#bottom To summarize the additional info James gave in that thread: I speculated that it might be The Blue Max, since James had prepared a reconstruction and was about to record it before LLL announced their new edition. James had said Luc wasn't interested in the project so that may have been planned to be a Tadlow release all along. Other people brought up The Chairman, to which James replied: It certainly will not be THE CHAIRMAN as Fox Films would not give permission for us to access the Goldsmith sketches that they hold in their archive. Both Luc and myself would love to record it. The Goldsmith 2CD set will be for Tadlow Music and not Prometheus and will contain one complete score plus 2 extended suites from 2 other films... and he later amended that: Actually thinking about it there will be suites from 3 films plus 1 complete score... Finally (probably looking further in the future) after some further conversation from other members, he let slip this tantalizing comment in regards to a recording of Goldsmith's otherwise-lost 1st and 3rd film scores, Black Patch and Face of a Fugitive, both westerns: I know that Luc doesn't want to do that....but I would be interested especially as the Academy has sketches.... It was unclear about whether he was considering recording those two scores complete since sketches survive, or whether they might be done as extended suites, but even if the latter it's a tantalizing prospect for Goldsmith fans, as neither score has previously had any representation at all! Yavar
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Given the quality of James' re-recordings, a re-do of The Blue Max would be incredible! The Blue Max is the only Goldsmith effort prior to Wind and the Lion that really does it for me. Besides that, Max feels like it was composed in 1985, but sent back to be recorded in the 60's. My ears were spoiled with post 1975 recordings and it's the only recording (before my time) that I both love and dislike, soley due to the recording itself. The Suite Goldsmith recorded for the "Suites and Themes" album gave me a sense of what a digital-age recording would sound like and I loved it!!! I hope a full re-recording is in the cards! That and Battle Beyond the Stars. LOL
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Yes, sooner or later I buy every new Goldsmith issue. I really got obsessed with him around 2002 or so, and it's only gotten worse since then. Back in the 90s I was just as much a fan of Williams or Horner or Elfman or Barry...now the only composers who come close to my love of Goldsmith are Bernstein, Poledouris, and Rozsa (all three of which I've created similar threads for, I just unfortunately don't have cause to regularly update them because labels don't release their work nearly as often). Other composers on that level of obsession for me for whom I didn't make 'what's left' threads for are Golden-Agers Herrmann, Newman, Friedhofer, Waxman, Korngold, Webb, and Skinner...but their releases are so infrequent nowadays and so much of their music is lost that I have my doubts about whether listing all of their in expanded scores would have much of a point. But Goldsmith has been my single favorite composer for quite some time now, so I'm glad that he at least is popular enough with so many others that the labels find it worthwhile to put out pretty much anything he ever did...except for a complete S*P*Y*S I guess...lol. Yavar P.S. There are also a number of classical composers with whom I am as obsessed as I am with Goldsmith (ie. I am to own and appreciate their complete works): Shostakovich, Saint-Saens, Sibelius, Barber, Raff, Mahler, Dvorak, and a handful of others who are lesser-known...
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