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 Posted:   Apr 16, 2013 - 4:35 AM   
 By:   Mike West   (Member)

And I am grateful that Abrams still wants this kind of score in his films and Giacchino is able to provide it.

Agreed 100%. My thoughts are not about "this kind of score", but about the details of the elaboration of it

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2013 - 9:54 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

I don't think in any universe I'd describe the first score as celebratory

Its a very "anthem" heavy score. Almost like Bill Conti in that it has a big fanfare for something particular and its used over and over. Giacchino uses his Kirk/Enterprise theme *a lot*.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2013 - 10:17 AM   
 By:   Mike West   (Member)

I don't think in any universe I'd describe the first score as celebratory

Its a very "anthem" heavy score. Almost like Bill Conti in that it has a big fanfare for something particular and its used over and over. Giacchino uses his Kirk/Enterprise theme *a lot*.


How do you know?

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2013 - 10:19 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

How do you know?

... I own the 2009 score in two different volumes and a DVD copy of the film?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2013 - 10:24 AM   
 By:   Vermithrax Pejorative   (Member)

Crossed wires here, I think.
Discussion of the new TREK film score has merged - melded - into the old one!
Oh dear!

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2013 - 10:38 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

New trailer

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2013 - 1:12 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

New trailer

Spoiler:

So it appears two Starships go head to head in a nebula. How original! KHANNNNNNNNNNNNNN!

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2013 - 2:31 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Ideas ripped off from a dozen pre-existing ST stories, but brand new to ST non-fans? Check.
Inspirational pep-talk from pseudo father figure? Check.
Lots of jumping off things? Check.
Disgruntled ex-employee looking for some payback? Check.
Melodramatic, histrionic score using all available arrangement cliches? Check.

This will make tons of money.

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2013 - 4:08 PM   
 By:   Loren   (Member)

Amazon link: www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Into-Darkness-OSC/dp/B00C7O8MJ8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1365187923&sr=8-3



also vinyl edition!!!

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2013 - 4:19 PM   
 By:   Superman1701   (Member)

If there indeed is a Vinyl release of this as well I will end up getting both. smile

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2013 - 6:34 PM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

Ideas ripped off from a dozen pre-existing ST stories, but brand new to ST non-fans? Check.
Inspirational pep-talk from pseudo father figure? Check.
Lots of jumping off things? Check.
Disgruntled ex-employee looking for some payback? Check.
Melodramatic, histrionic score using all available arrangement cliches? Check.

This will make tons of money.


Agreed.
I'm really not looking forward to this. The creators lied about ST09, and if Cumberbatch turns out to be Khan I'm going to punch someone.


That said, Giacchino said just the other day that he composed some 100 min of music for this, so I'm not going to buy the soundtrack until I know for sure whether there is a 2-disc version coming.

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2013 - 10:42 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

That said, Giacchino said just the other day that he composed some 100 min of music for this, so I'm not going to buy the soundtrack until I know for sure whether there is a 2-disc version coming.


A wise precaution at any time!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 8:53 AM   
 By:   Rnelson   (Member)

New trailer

Spoiler:

So it appears two Starships go head to head in a nebula. How original! KHANNNNNNNNNNNNNN!


You mean like they did in Nemesis also?

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 9:11 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

The creators lied about ST09



Huh?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 9:26 AM   
 By:   Chris Avis   (Member)

That said, Giacchino said just the other day that he composed some 100 min of music for this, so I'm not going to buy the soundtrack until I know for sure whether there is a 2-disc version coming.


A wise precaution at any time!


Just remember, that part of the reason we got a deluxe edition was that the original album was such a good seller for Varese!

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 1:21 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Just remember, that part of the reason we got a deluxe edition was that the original album was such a good seller for Varese!


Well, we can speculate that that may have been one of the reasons. But that doesn't make it necessarily so. I'm inclined to think the deluxe edition was motivated more by the fan demand for a expansion. Without that demand, any label would likely be content selling the basic edition.

Additionally, the labels know full well that if there are differences in the content of the tracks which are common to any two editions (remember the controversy about the choir?), then those same fans/enthusiasts will probably snatch up both. Thats such a common marketing ploy and, as we all know, certainly not limited to score albums.

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 2:08 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Well, we can speculate that that may have been one of the reasons. But that doesn't make it necessarily so. I'm inclined to think the deluxe edition was motivated more by the fan demand for a expansion. Without that demand, any label would likely be content selling the basic edition.

To use the old phrase - "Money talks and bullshit walks."

Demand is nothing unless there is a wallet behind it. No label worth its survival is going to put out a product that everyone wants but theres no reason to pay for. The reason we got the expanded version is because the money paid to the original soundtrack *is* the demand.

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 2:10 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Just remember, that part of the reason we got a deluxe edition was that the original album was such a good seller for Varese!

Well, we can speculate that that may have been one of the reasons. But that doesn't make it necessarily so. I'm inclined to think the deluxe edition was motivated more by the fan demand for a expansion. Without that demand, any label would likely be content selling the basic edition.


I'm not really clear on your point. You're saying that Varese would somehow know of fan demand for an expansion even if they hadn't bought the original? I find that impossible to believe.

You know what CD Varese lost a bundle on? "Star Trek Nemesis." Cost a lot, sold a little. And we haven't seen that expanded yet, have we?

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 2:11 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

No label worth its survival is going to put out a product that everyone wants but theres no reason to pay for. The reason we got the expanded version is because the money paid to the original soundtrack *is* the demand.

While I was typing my meandering response, you phrased it better!

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 2:16 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Great minds and all that. Cheers.

 
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