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 Posted:   Apr 30, 2013 - 9:01 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Kinda sounds a bit like Tron Legacy. Not hating it, but really can't make an opinion on such short cues. Since they are so low quality why not let us hear the entire tracks? At the end of the day I'm not expecting this to be very memorable.

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2013 - 9:09 AM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

But if you did not put up the title "MAN OF STEEL" for those samples - would you be able to say: this is the music for the new Superman movie?

I haven't heard any of the samples, but I don't think this is a fair question to ask. If you heard Williams' Superman March in 1976, and were not told "this is from a Superman movie," would you have associated it with Superman? Of course not.

Your second question really gets to the crux of the matter, because there is a lot of sameness to all of Zimmer's music (and I acknowledge this as something of a Zimmer fan)

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2013 - 9:10 AM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

Well, Williams' Superman Theme actually "sings" SUPERMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN...

So, yes, one could easily notice that it was the Superman theme...

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2013 - 9:25 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

It´s not an attack on Zimmer´s music if I state my disappointment with the snippets of music that you can hear on the amazon-site.

Again, I hope that the full tracks will be better. But if you did not put up the title "MAN OF STEEL" for those samples - would you be able to say: this is the music for the new Superman movie? Would you even be able to say: This is a new score by Hans Zimmer, not a mix of all those Zimmer-scored blockbusters from the last decade?


That's exactly right. Again, they're just samples, but these could be samples from ANY of his scores.

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2013 - 9:37 AM   
 By:   JJH   (Member)

I thought Yor was calling a truce on the Zimmer bashing.

YOR is just expressing his opinion about the new samples.

He can do that, yes?



He can also leave this board.

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2013 - 9:38 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

But if you did not put up the title "MAN OF STEEL" for those samples - would you be able to say: this is the music for the new Superman movie?


Actually Williams Superman theme is very reminiscent of the classic television series theme. So an association could be made from it's previous incarnation. That's not to say it's the only way to score a Superman film of course.

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2013 - 9:48 AM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

This shows perfectly why I don't consider iTunes or Amazon samples to be sufficient to judge a score. Major labels need to provide more lengthy samples if they expect to make any sales to people who haven't seen the movie. You can't tell from these if Zimmer develops the cues at all. It could turn out to be a good score but from these samples I am not intrigued so I would just skip it.

Knowing Watertower though they will post a full stream later, which is great, but other labels need to provide alternatives because in this day and age buying a score blindly because it is by a composer you like makes no sense except maybe if it was John Scott.

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2013 - 10:26 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

For Zimmer fans only (or people actually looking forward to this score like I am)
From Zimmer in response to a post I made on another forum

[quote]

Rctec
Senior Member


Joined: 14 Jun 2010
Posts: 136
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Posted: Today at 5:03 am
Actually, very little synth - Moog here, a Zebra there...but the electronic sounds are eight pedal steel guitars joined by some titanium sculptures Chas Smith build for us. Bass pedal steel's where all strings are tuned to unison playing the bottom "A" on the piano. I wanted to keep it homemade, not electronic. Upright piano, nothing fancy.
But you will be able to download an app that lets you hear it all in DTS Headphone-x, which is full surround and height on your headphones by modeling my ears and how the score sounds through them with me sitting in my chair.
Always pushing the technology....
And there might be a few other nice things on there....
The cello is Ann-Marie Calhoun on her Stradivarius...
[/quote]

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2013 - 10:26 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

For Zimmer fans only (or people actually looking forward to this score like I am)
From Zimmer in response to a post I made on another forum



Rctec
Senior Member


Joined: 14 Jun 2010
Posts: 136
Groups: None
(No subject)
Posted: Today at 5:03 am
Actually, very little synth - Moog here, a Zebra there...but the electronic sounds are eight pedal steel guitars joined by some titanium sculptures Chas Smith build for us. Bass pedal steel's where all strings are tuned to unison playing the bottom "A" on the piano. I wanted to keep it homemade, not electronic. Upright piano, nothing fancy.
But you will be able to download an app that lets you hear it all in DTS Headphone-x, which is full surround and height on your headphones by modeling my ears and how the score sounds through them with me sitting in my chair.
Always pushing the technology....
And there might be a few other nice things on there....
The cello is Ann-Marie Calhoun on her Stradivarius...

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2013 - 11:36 AM   
 By:   jfallon   (Member)

Thats very enlightening. Thanks for sharing... This release cant come fast enough.

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2013 - 11:37 AM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Yeah I can hear the cello in a few of those cues. It is certainly promising.

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2013 - 12:03 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

I certainly didn't expect to hear a cello from looking at the cover art.

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2013 - 12:56 PM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

I certainly didn't expect to hear a cello from looking at the cover art.

What does that mean?

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2013 - 1:23 PM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

He can also leave this board.

Nah! It is pretty funny here.

And where else could YOR change messages with Butthead himself??

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2013 - 1:39 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

I certainly didn't expect to hear a cello from looking at the cover art.

What does that mean?


Recent in-"joke" with the board, David! Keep up, man! smile

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2013 - 1:46 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

I certainly didn't expect to hear a cello from looking at the cover art.

What does that mean?


A reaction to my complaint that a recently released David Newman score did not have a fully orchestral sound that I expected to hear based on the cover art having a Hellocopter on the front.

To some extent though, one would not expect to hear slower cello passages in a zimmer score based on some of his recent works. There is certainly none of that in Inception. This gives me hope that this film won't be as hopelessly dark as the Batman films.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2013 - 2:56 PM   
 By:   musicpaladin2007   (Member)

I certainly didn't expect to hear a cello from looking at the cover art.

What does that mean?


A reaction to my complaint that a recently released David Newman score did not have a fully orchestral sound that I expected to hear based on the cover art having a Hellocopter on the front.

To some extent though, one would not expect to hear slower cello passages in a zimmer score based on some of his recent works. There is certainly none of that in Inception. This gives me hope that this film won't be as hopelessly dark as the Batman films.


Were you really expecting to hear a Zimmer score without a reprise of the Cello Army from PotC or Dark Knight?

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2013 - 3:51 PM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

Samples sound great! Definitely has me interested in hearing the entire score, as if I wasn't already. Very much looking forward to this one.

(the "oil rig" sample though...really? are these samples generated randomly, or did some guy just say hey i think i'll let people have 30 seconds of repeated drum hits? although "oil rig" is an excellent reminder that samples don't indicate much at all)

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2013 - 4:35 PM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

For Zimmer fans only)

I am not one.


(or people actually looking forward to this score like I am)

I most certainly am one.

Thanks for the tidbit - interesting info...looking forward to both film and score immensely...

 
 Posted:   May 1, 2013 - 12:56 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

The samples seem to have been removed from Amazon, but are back online here:



Also, FSM's own Ozman has received the CD and posted a quick commentary you can read here:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=573188999382734&set=a.114158731952432.13032.112035492164756&type=1&comment_id=1671597&offset=0&total_comments=9

 
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