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 Posted:   Jul 12, 2013 - 5:11 AM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

YOR drinks dinossaur blood.

It is good for one's belly.

 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2013 - 7:10 AM   
 By:   Khan   (Member)

Facehugger, you're clearly a troll, so as such I'll be extremely brief because you don't really deserve the attention... BUT...

Hans Zimmer's popularity with is not an opinion and absolutely a verifiable phenomenon. Album sales are all the proof anyone needs that he strikes a chord with the moviegoing public... and his scores consistently chart in the Billboard Top 100, a major feat for a film score by any stretch.

And that's all you're gonna get from me. Enjoy the underside of your bridge.


Whatever since you clearly lack the ability of logic reasoning.

Ever thought audience could flood to buy a soundtrack because they like the film it associates with, even though they don't give a rat's ass about the actual music? No? Ever wonder why Zimmer's "The Bible" does not sell as much as MOS? Clearly such question is above you.

And really convenient by calling anyone disagreeing with you a troll. With that positive attitude, soon you can solve the puzzle of "why Zimmer got the job you want (and you didn't, sadly)".


Actually, in this case, MattB is right. Zimmer is immensely popular. Ignoring your flawed sales argument, he has almost 1.2 million followers on Facebook. That is concrete, tangible proof of his verifiable popularity amongst the general public.

 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2013 - 7:27 AM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

Actually, in this case, MattB is right. Zimmer is immensely popular. Ignoring your flawed sales argument, he has almost 1.2 million followers on Facebook. That is concrete, tangible proof of his verifiable popularity amongst the general public.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2013 - 7:29 AM   
 By:   facehugger   (Member)



Actually, in this case, MattB is right. Zimmer is immensely popular. Ignoring your flawed sales argument, he has almost 1.2 million followers on Facebook. That is concrete, tangible proof of his verifiable popularity amongst the general public.


Concrete fact for sure, but you should make more effort bridging said "fact" with your "conclusions."

How many followers does John Williams have? Or James Horner? Or Marco Beltrami for that matter? (I'm guessing ZERO because those guys don't go on facebook and make PR stunts like "submit your best shouting to be remixed in Batman 3!" )

If you can't make comparisons, how can you conclude Zimmer is "popular" (which, by the way, is an inherently comparative word)?

And what about Goldsmith? Does he have Facebook followers? Rozsa? Oh only if the dead could have Facebook "followers" to prove their "popularity"...

 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2013 - 7:37 AM   
 By:   Khan   (Member)



Actually, in this case, MattB is right. Zimmer is immensely popular. Ignoring your flawed sales argument, he has almost 1.2 million followers on Facebook. That is concrete, tangible proof of his verifiable popularity amongst the general public.


Concrete fact for sure, but you should make more effort bridging said "fact" with your "conclusions."

How many followers do John Williams have? Or James Horner? Or Marco Beltrami for that matter? (I'm guessing ZERO because those guys don't go on facebook and make PR stunts like "submit your best shouting to be remixed in Batman 3!" )

If you can't make comparisons, how can you conclude Zimmer is "popular" (which, by the way, is an inherently comparative word)?

And what about Goldsmith? Does he have Facebook followers? Rozsa? Oh only if the dead could have Facebook "followers" to prove their "popularity"...


Williams is at 250k. Elfman's a bit behind that. Horner's at 64k. Beltrami's at 2.6k. Jerry Goldsmith is at 20.5k.

Should I list Spotify followers next?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2013 - 7:42 AM   
 By:   facehugger   (Member)



Williams is at 250k. Elfman's a bit behind that. Horner's at 64k. Beltrami's at 2.6k. Jerry Goldsmith is at 20.5k.

Next?


Like I said, people "follow" Zimmer because he posts cute pictures of him and the producer hanging out, and making PR stunts. You "follow" him if you want to keep updated with his stuff.

If you look at Williams page, does the guy himself post anything? And if not, what's the point of "follow/like" him?

And I don't even want to go deep into the "a lot of the older people/Goldsmith fans don't use Facebook so even if they like Goldsmith they wouldn't 'follow' him on Facebook so your proof is moot" argument.

But in the end, I'm not denying Zimmer is "popular". I was just making fun of that Matt guy's lazy logic. You on the other hand, at least make decent argument.

See? No personal attacks and we can have a good discussion about Zimmer's popularity.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2013 - 1:12 PM   
 By:   tom.atmore   (Member)

All I took away from this gushing fanboy article was:

1) Hans is a visionary. But his visions are nothing but PR bull (like his claim that only Johnny Marr could play the guitar for Inception).

2) Hans works very hard. Like all people who have to put food on the table.

3) Hans can't do much. But he can read the piano roll and is able to search for things when his composing abilities fail him (which is often).

4) Hans works with many, many great people, but the end result is still underwhelming too often.

5) Hans is a business whore.

6) Hans lacks integrity and likes to suck up in order to keep his pristine record of zero rejected scores.

Hans and his followers are trapped in the deep valley of fallacy. They like to think that Hans' scores serve their respective films best. They have to because they were chosen to accompany the films by the respective powers that be. That's undeniable proof to them.

I pity the fools.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2013 - 1:27 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

I look at it this way.

When a person starts getting into film scores, more often than not they will also eventually get into classical music. Many times it's also the other way around. Anyway, when this happens, the person's musical palette starts on a journey of discovery and expansion... artistic education, if you like.

Inevitably, the ear gets sophisticated pretty fast and soon they find that the things they were drawn to as a neophyte, while still maintaining a position of nostalgic affection, will often get left to the side for the more challenging things to come.

If someone's affection for Zimmer eventually results in their discovery of, say, Shostakovich or Rachmaninoff, then so much the better.

So all is not lost, as long as there are instances where the ends justify the means.

 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2013 - 1:40 PM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

What impresses YOR the most about Hamzimmer is how he was not worried to try to get better all these years.

His scores are all the same and are getting even worse ("Man of Steel" comes to mind - Tyler Bates would create something better than that).

Even Oingoboingo got better with time. Probably went to school to learn more about music.

But Hamz? No. He is so good that he does not need to get better.

Just keep doing the same crap all over again untill the day Jerry Buckshaimmer or Bore Verbinskly dies...

Well, why should he get worried? His facebook page has more followers than John Williams'! That is the ultimate proof that he is great!

roll eyes

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2013 - 1:49 PM   
 By:   facehugger   (Member)

I look at it this way.

When a person starts getting into film scores, more often than not they will also eventually get into classical music. Many times it's also the other way around. Anyway, when this happens, the person's musical palette starts on a journey of discovery and expansion... artistic education, if you like.

Inevitably, the ear gets sophisticated pretty fast and soon they find that the things they were drawn to as a neophyte, while still maintaining a position of nostalgic affection, will often get left to the side for the more challenging things to come.

If someone's affection for Zimmer eventually results in their discovery of, say, Shostakovich or Rachmaninoff, then so much the better.

So all is not lost, as long as there are instances where the ends justify the means.


Words of truth.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2013 - 1:52 PM   
 By:   facehugger   (Member)

Man of Steel" comes to mind - Tyler Bates would create something better than that).


Woot woot! When you say Tyler Bates, I'm sure you mean "Elliot Goldenthal" right?

Joking aside, I can't think up a more abysmal and inappropriate score than Watchmen. So, Tyler Bates? I'm staying clear of him even with a ten feet pole.

And btw YOR's joke about Danny Elfman is funny as always.

 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2013 - 1:55 PM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

Tyler Bates is better than Hamzimmer.

And YOR cannot think on a worst composer that Tyler Bates...

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2013 - 2:00 PM   
 By:   facehugger   (Member)

Jerry Buckshaimmer or Bore Verbinskly dies...


What happened to these guys in recent years?

Brukalzheimer used to make decent films like Crimson Tides and The Rock.

And Verbinsky once upon a time inspired Alan Silvestri to write the great Mouse Hunt.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2013 - 2:18 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

What happened to these guys in recent years?
Brukalzheimer used to make decent films like Crimson Tides and The Rock.
And Verbinsky once upon a time inspired Alan Silvestri to write the great Mouse Hunt.



It's a funny coincidence that you mention "The Rock". After not seeing it for ages I popped it in just the other day. Enjoyable movie (and in the old days I bought anything that had the Criterion logo on it).

Anyway, as one could imagine, the score soon gave me a headache (the usual suspects). It had me wishing that DVD's, in addition to an isolated score option, also came with an "everything-BUT-the-score" option.

Even my son (who's 20) looks up from the PC with a grimace and says, "What the Hell is with that music"? That's my boy. smile

 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2013 - 2:23 PM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

"The Rock"... yeah, YOR remember that crap.

It was when all this Hamzimmer nonsese begun...

BTW, a friend of YOR's, who is not a movie music lover, said the same thing about "Inception" score.

"The movie is ok, but what the hell was that annoying music??"

Yes.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2013 - 2:33 PM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

Next you'll be saying that Mark Mancina wrote 70% of the score to The Lion King and should have walked home with the Oscar !! wink

 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2013 - 2:35 PM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

Mark... Who???

 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2013 - 2:36 PM   
 By:   Erik Woods   (Member)

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2013 - 2:39 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

Jerry Buckshaimmer or Bore Verbinskly dies...


Brukalzheimer used to make decent films like Crimson Tides and The Rock.



Wait...in what bizarro universe is The Rock considered a "decent" film? And you call others out on their tastes?


 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2013 - 2:58 PM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)



YOR likes a good fire!

 
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