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 Posted:   Jul 21, 2013 - 3:15 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2013 - 3:49 PM   
 By:   facehugger   (Member)



Did the idea come from Klaus or did he just wrote according to some specifications. I think people tend to forget that, as a person who's headlining the score, he's directly responsible for what get into the movie, and Hans is as responsible for all of the tracks that Klaus has attributed assumed the "written by".


Fair enough.

Let's agree that Zimmer and his "colleagues" (i.e. MediaVenture studio, founded by Zimmer AND Rifkin, of which Mark Mancina and Glennie-Smith were among the first associates) collectively created those famous scores, shall we?

Yet when the general public refer to those kind of sound, they say "it's the Hans Zimmer sound" instead of "it's the MediaVenture sound." Compare this to, say, the trailer music of the "Immediate Music" production studio.

In this sense, I think Mancina, Glennie-Smith and especially Badelt deserve more than what they have now.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2013 - 3:54 PM   
 By:   facehugger   (Member)


Also those chants from The Time Machine.


Google "Karl Jenkins - Adiemus"


But, but, Badelt ripped off BOTH of the above track, AND Goldsmith's The Edge... (a fantastic combination, if you ask me).

 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2013 - 4:43 AM   
 By:   Bernd   (Member)

After Batman lost his gothic edge

Batman was never really gothic(in the comics at least)


O.K. Adam West's Batman wasn't quite gothic, and surely there are comic-book interpretations of the character which aren't gothic at all. But a guy living in an old manor, working in an underground office and having some morbid affinity with bats sounds quite "gothic" to me.

I for my part like that Tim Burton and Danny Elfman accentuated these "gothic" elements.
And although Christopher Nolan's version is also a dark and sombre one, the score doesn't reflect that IMHO.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2013 - 5:21 AM   
 By:   nick11a   (Member)

I'm of the opinion that Horner lost his edge not long after scoring "A Beautiful Mind." Since then, he seems to be doing a lot of retreading. When he does attempt something "new," I find it to be safe and bland. A pity, because I found a lot of his earlier work to be bloody brilliant.

As for Hans Zimmer.... we'll see. Hiring Film Composers has turned into a name game. It is just like hiring actors in a movie to feature and use their name.... it doesn't mean it is the right choice or will serve the movie.

While "The Amazing Spider Man" score had a few cool little things, I found it on a the whole to be underwhelming.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2013 - 12:58 PM   
 By:   trstnvnk   (Member)

In this sense, I think Mancina, Glennie-Smith and especially Badelt deserve more than what they have now.

Especially Mancina. Speed was the first score where I noticed that "Zimmer" sound. Back then, the music from The Rock was used to advertise a Dutch tv show (this was before I had seen The Rock on the video), and I actually thought it from a Mancina score I hadn't heard yet. So I knew that sound before I knew about Zimmer

 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2013 - 1:05 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

I'm of the opinion that Horner lost his edge not long after scoring "A Beautiful Mind." Since then, he seems to be doing a lot of retreading. When he does attempt something "new," I find it to be safe and bland. A pity, because I found a lot of his earlier work to be bloody brilliant.

Its funny that right around then, he made his infamous statement of "running out of notes". He seems to have done just that, though I do like a couple of things like Troy or Boy In The Stripped Pajamas. Amazing Spider-Man wasn't to my taste but then I also found the movie a reprehensible and joyless bore.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2013 - 1:15 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Zimmer score = snore

 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2013 - 1:49 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

The Missing and The Legend of Zorro have plenty of edge to them! In fact I think the Zorro sequel score is even more fresh and exciting than the original Mask of Zorro, which I loved too.

Yavar (sometimes Horner-basher, but those two in particular are awesome)

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2013 - 2:07 PM   
 By:   c8   (Member)



Especially Mancina. Speed was the first score where I noticed that "Zimmer" sound. Back then, the music from The Rock was used to advertise a Dutch tv show (this was before I had seen The Rock on the video), and I actually thought it from a Mancina score I hadn't heard yet. So I knew that sound before I knew about Zimmer


Not to derail the thread...but hear hear. Mancina's scores always seem to have a pulse and, while keeping the MV/RC sound, seem to have warmth and a degree of complexity. I could listen to something like Twister over and over and over again (and actually do, as a matter of fact). I'm not saying he's writing at the level of Beethoven, but, Mancia's a far more capable composer than the number of assignments he gets would suggest.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2013 - 2:15 PM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

When I listen to The Lion King score, I hear a warmth and beauty that I've rarely heard in other Zimmer scores, but I've heard plenty of in things like Tarzan and Brother Bear.
Just sayin' like!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2013 - 3:40 PM   
 By:   nick11a   (Member)

I'm of the opinion that Horner lost his edge not long after scoring "A Beautiful Mind." Since then, he seems to be doing a lot of retreading. When he does attempt something "new," I find it to be safe and bland. A pity, because I found a lot of his earlier work to be bloody brilliant.

Its funny that right around then, he made his infamous statement of "running out of notes". He seems to have done just that, though I do like a couple of things like Troy or Boy In The Stripped Pajamas. Amazing Spider-Man wasn't to my taste but then I also found the movie a reprehensible and joyless bore.


Interesting.... well, he has pretty much confined himself to his style and hasn't branched out all that much. Granted, few film composers or composers in general are able to successfully compete against themselves.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2013 - 5:15 PM   
 By:   facehugger   (Member)

I'm of the opinion that Horner lost his edge not long after scoring "A Beautiful Mind." Since then, he seems to be doing a lot of retreading. When he does attempt something "new," I find it to be safe and bland. A pity, because I found a lot of his earlier work to be bloody brilliant.

Its funny that right around then, he made his infamous statement of "running out of notes". He seems to have done just that, though I do like a couple of things like Troy or Boy In The Stripped Pajamas. Amazing Spider-Man wasn't to my taste but then I also found the movie a reprehensible and joyless bore.


Interesting.... well, he has pretty much confined himself to his style and hasn't branched out all that much. Granted, few film composers or composers in general are able to successfully compete against themselves.


Apocaplypto is THE innovative Horner score during the 2010's. Actually, I'd even say it is one of the most innovative score during the 2010's, among any composer's output.

Unfortunately that innovative "jungle" sound has since been added to Horner's "ready-to-recycle" list ("AVATAR" feels like the stew of every Horner(TM) cliche that ever existed, complete with Apocalypto tribal singing, Troy wailing woman, and of course, danger motif).

Interestingly, Zimmer does the similar thing: once he discovered the effectiveness of ostinato, he just had to use it in every imaginable way; same thing with Inception horn of doom, and Sparrow playful tune.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2013 - 5:20 PM   
 By:   facehugger   (Member)

When I listen to The Lion King score, I hear a warmth and beauty that I've rarely heard in other Zimmer scores, but I've heard plenty of in things like Tarzan and Brother Bear.
Just sayin' like!


I consider these two scenes+music equally moving and powerful:

Mufasa telling Simba about past kings in the sky,

Tarzan's mother saying goodbye to Tarzan.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2013 - 9:08 PM   
 By:   Yumbo   (Member)



Especially Mancina. Speed was the first score where I noticed that "Zimmer" sound. Back then, the music from The Rock was used to advertise a Dutch tv show (this was before I had seen The Rock on the video), and I actually thought it from a Mancina score I hadn't heard yet. So I knew that sound before I knew about Zimmer


Not to derail the thread...but hear hear. Mancina's scores always seem to have a pulse and, while keeping the MV/RC sound, seem to have warmth and a degree of complexity. I could listen to something like Twister over and over and over again (and actually do, as a matter of fact). I'm not saying he's writing at the level of Beethoven, but, Mancia's a far more capable composer than the number of assignments he gets would suggest.


Was just listening to Speed.
Looking forward to Planes in a few weeks. The trailer cue is quite nice.
It may inspire Mancinfo 2.0.
Check out the return of Zinfo 2.0 if you haven't.
This thread has inspired an upcoming post on royalties.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 29, 2013 - 9:22 AM   
 By:   Machionic   (Member)

Variation of Horner's main theme is in the leaked trailer (starts at 4:19):

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 5:43 PM   
 By:   David (Giacchino-fan)   (Member)

Interview with Zimmer about his reaction to the film:

http://collider.com/amazing-spider-man-2-hans-zimmer-interview/

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 9:35 PM   
 By:   facehugger   (Member)

Zimmer says "I’m sort of grappling with a completely different way of doing it right now,... "


--And the finished score will sound exactly like Inception of Batman of Steel.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2013 - 3:52 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I think TAS1 was just fine. Not sure what the hate is about. It worked pretty well.

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2013 - 5:09 AM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

I think TAS1 was just fine. Not sure what the hate is about. It worked pretty well.

I loved it, too. And the score as well. A real shame that Horner was not invited back.

 
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