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 Posted:   Nov 14, 2013 - 5:01 PM   
 By:   Senn555   (Member)

http://www.doctornerdlove.com/2013/10/masculinity-fails-men/

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2013 - 5:04 PM   
 By:   Senn555   (Member)

"A study on masculinity and aggression from the University of South Florida found that innocuous – yet feminine – tasks could produce profound anxiety in men. As part of the study, a group of men were asked to perform a stereotypically feminine act – braiding hair in this case - while a control group braided rope. Following the act, the men were given the option to either solve a puzzle or punch a heavy bag. Not surprisingly, the men who performed the task that threatened their masculinity were far more likely to punch the bag; again, violence serving as a way to reestablish their masculine identity. A follow-up had both groups punch the bag after braiding either hair or rope; the men who braided the hair punched the bag much harder. A third experiment, all the participants braided hair, but were split into two groups: those who got to punch the bag afterwards and those who didn’t. The men who were prevented from punching the bag started to show acute signs of anxiety and distress from not being able to reconfirm their masculinity.

It’s that precariousness – the ease of which one’s perceived manhood can be taken away that has profound physical and mental effects on men. The constant state of being on guard wears away at the body and spirit, contributing to numerous health issues. The stress and constant need to reassert one’s masculinity has been linked to hypertension, depression, anxiety and low self-esteem as well as an increased propensity for violence.

It is literally killing men by insisting they can never show weakness, never vary from the restrictive role laid out for them."

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2013 - 5:31 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

It's called hormones. Funny how feminism has shown women more and more take on the attributes of men.

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2013 - 5:56 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

It's called hormones. Funny how feminism has shown women more and more take on the attributes of men.

What attributes might those be?

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2013 - 6:01 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

See also, for something semi-related: http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=69853&forumID=7&archive=0

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2013 - 6:03 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

"It is literally killing men by insisting they can never show weakness, never vary from the restrictive role laid out for them."

Just TRY getting one of them to believe this. It's an uphill battle.

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2013 - 6:05 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)



...that a topic as good as this will not get as many replies as it deserves.

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2013 - 6:25 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

It's called hormones. Funny how feminism has shown women more and more take on the attributes of men.

What attributes might those be?


More aggressive, manipulative, cutthroat, dishonest, fool hardy, you name it.

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2013 - 9:05 PM   
 By:   BobJ   (Member)

I stopped reading the article once I read this line: "The problem is that the MRM types are so up their own asses with their hatred and fear of women that they resemble a one-man Human Centipede."

I do not know the MRM, and honestly, don't care to. I know who I am and am quite capable of speaking for myself on any "sexual identity" issue. But that "one-man" line is so unbelievable dumb that I already know I can learn nothing from this person. A "one-man centipede"? Um, I would say the person with their head up their own butt would resemble a rollie pollie more, but what do you expect from an author that references such a loathsome movie for their imagery of men to begin with? The first few paragraphs are laden with hatred and offer little information on what all the fuss is about. in other words, it's a rant.

Not interested.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2013 - 9:23 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

I think the problem is there are just too many people of all types who follow some silly conformity of being what society think you should be. You got to be what you are and if somebody don't like it that's there problem. I remember years ago my line producer and I were looking at all the magazines in the newsstands in New York and he stated you notice there are so many magazines for woman telling them what they should do and be like in this world. Well as stated here men too have foolishly been brainwashed into what they should do. I say follow your own drum, you are yourself, you are special, no one is exactly like you. You are your worst enemy or your best friend. Don't take shit from nobody if it is shit.If it is a nice thing they give you say thanks and offer kindness in return. There are too many adult- children in this world. Not enough adult-adults. Stop worrying what people are always thinking about you.

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2013 - 9:25 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I think the problem is there are just too many people of all types who follow some silly conformity of being what society think you should be. You got to be what you are and if somebody don't like it that's there problem. I remember years ago my line producer and I were looking at all the magazines in the newsstands in New York and he stated you notice there are so many magazines for woman telling them what they should do and be like in this world. Well as stated here men too have foolishly been brainwashed into what they should do. I say follow your own drum, you are yourself, you are special, no one is exactly like you.

Very well said and I totally agree.

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2013 - 10:59 PM   
 By:   Senn555   (Member)

I think the problem is there are just too many people of all types who follow some silly conformity of being what society think you should be. You got to be what you are and if somebody don't like it that's there problem. I remember years ago my line producer and I were looking at all the magazines in the newsstands in New York and he stated you notice there are so many magazines for woman telling them what they should do and be like in this world. Well as stated here men too have foolishly been brainwashed into what they should do. I say follow your own drum, you are yourself, you are special, no one is exactly like you. You are your worst enemy or your best friend. Don't take shit from nobody if it is shit.If it is a nice thing they give you say thanks and offer kindness in return. There are too many adult- children in this world. Not enough adult-adults. Stop worrying what people are always thinking about you.

Pretty much this.

The main problem I have with being "masculine" is that it robs people of the ability to be completely candid and honest with others. They're hurting themselves in this sense as they have to bottle up their emotions for fear of being rejected by others. Life is a lot easier for me now that I couldn't care less about "being a man" - while I have less friends as a result, it means having better friendships that are more worthwhile and it also enables me to live more independently.

Now I just need to curb my tendency of trying to force my ideals on everyone else (despite how right the article is).

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2013 - 11:22 PM   
 By:   Christopher Kinsinger   (Member)

I've been reading everything here with great interest.

QUESTION:
WHAT IS A MAN?
WHAT IS "MASCULINE"?

ANSWER:
It's whatever you THINK.

IF your THINKING has been shaped by John Wayne, Clint Eastwood, Madison Avenue, porn stars, or your own father's abuses, you will have to struggle with your manhood as long as you live. NONE OF THOSE THINGS ARE TRUE!

I KNOW.
I struggled with my manhood for decades.
I WAS SHAPED BY THE MEDIA from my childhood!

Thankfully, with age, I have learned what it means to be a real man, and I've found my peace.

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2013 - 12:18 AM   
 By:   Josh   (Member)

Jesus is…THE MAN. And, I want to be JUST LIKE HIM.

THE MAN.



 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2013 - 12:21 AM   
 By:   Smitty   (Member)

I never gave a shit about what others think about me. I've always aggressively participated in sports and exercise, but that's just who I am and what I like to do; it's not to assert my "manliness."

I did have a couple of friends who liked to question my masculinity because I always refused to go hunting with them. I would probably hunt them before I would hunt a defenseless animal. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2013 - 12:21 AM   
 By:   Christopher Kinsinger   (Member)

Thanks, Josh!

big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2013 - 1:53 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

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 Posted:   Nov 15, 2013 - 2:06 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I'm not exactly sure what we're discussing here. What is the dilemma/issue/problem?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2013 - 5:52 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

I'm not exactly sure what we're discussing here. What is the dilemma/issue/problem?


You don't need to worry about it, pal.

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2013 - 6:24 AM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)

I don't believe the part that says "the men who were prevented from punching the bag started to show acute signs of anxiety and distress from not being able to reconfirm their masculinity".

 
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