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 Posted:   Sep 9, 2010 - 7:50 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

Gran Torino (2008) -- 9.5/10

This movie could've been perfect, but it needed a strong actor for the pivotal role of Thao, and Bee Vang is not a strong actor.


Glad you liked this one. I think it's a masterpiece and the best film of that year. What a perfect choice for Clint's final screen performance. However, though I agree Bee is not a great actor, that's exactly what Clint wanted, a real kid rather than an actor. He achieved the effect he wanted, so I can't really complain about it. Thao seemed like a real kid who could be living next door to me (as did his sister), and I liked that realism regardless of the less-than-stellar acting chops.


I would also call it a masterpiece. But Vang, to me, just didn't belong in an Eastwood picture, particularly one such as this, where strong acting is needed. I understand what you are saying about Clint wanting a real did rather than an actor, but that's what I loved about the actress who played Thao's sister -- she was very authentically youthful and representative of her culture but also displayed some nuanced acting skills. There were many emotional moments for the character of Thao, and they didn't impact as much because Vang seemed more akin to a high school student performing in local theater. Most of the time he had this wooden, blank look on his face and just recited his lines, and I never got the desired expression and vocal inflection that I felt his part called for. Not only the sister, but Thao's romantic interest and all of the gang members, they all seemed authentically youthful and culturally true but they also brought something to their role. Like the scene where Eastwood is buying Vang his tools at the hardware store, and Vang thanks him, "No really, thank you," and Eastwood offers to shake his hand, that was a moving scene to me, but Vang's recitation of his lines at that moment was completely lifeless. Not that I expected him to be Bee Streep, but I felt the scene would have had more impact if the character seemed more emotionally invested, especially somewhere near the high bar Eastwood was performing at. Anyway, that's just how I see it, Vang didn't end up hurting the picture, he just kept it from being perfect to me, but he was amusing at times. It really was a tremendous picture. For some reason racial-tension movies really move me, they always have, probably because I'm so concerned and passionate about the prevalence of racism in society, but that's a discussion for another time (certainly not on this site!)...

Allardizzle, while we're talking recent Eastwood films, can't remember if you told me before, but I saw The Changeling recently and gave it a 10/10 -- what did you think pray tell? Do you think he's a genius like I do? How about Eastwood's Family O' Dicks in Gran Torino? (Judas Priest!!! His granddaughter was a colossal PsychoHoseBeast) What did you think of his crooning the end title of Gran Torino? Have you heard his marvellously exquisite score to The Changeling? ANSWERS! wink

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2010 - 7:59 AM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)


...but that's what I loved about the actress who played Thao's sister -- she was very authentically youthful and representative of her culture but also displayed some nuanced acting skills.


She is not a trained actress either. It's clear which one of them has more natural ability, eh?

Allardizzle, while we're talking recent Eastwood films, can't remember if you told me before, but I saw The Changeling recently and gave it a 10/10 -- what did you think pray tell? Do you think he's a genius like I do? How about Eastwood's Family O' Dicks in Gran Torino? (Judas Priest!!! His granddaughter was a colossal PsychoHoseBeast) What did you think of his crooning the end title of Gran Torino? Have you heard his marvellously exquisite score to The Changeling? ANSWERS! wink

Well, I guess we haven't properly discussed Eastwood. He's been my favorite filmmaker for many years. I worship him like the god he is. Love all of his movies except 2. His screen persona, his impeccable gift for storytelling, the beautiful wide cinematography, his work ethic, his understanding of "less is more". He's my filmmaking hero in every regard. I"m such an Eastwood groupie that I have many posters of his films; I think his posters are some of the best ever. My favorite is The Dead Pool. I almost got a tatoo of that image once. Grrrrr.

Changeling was awesome (not to be confused with The Changeling from 1980). I was impressed by it because I was engrossed by the drama and the great look of the film. Few period films in recent years have looked that stunning and that convincing. As for the music, I'm one of the few around here that appreciates Clint's piano tinklings, and I think this score had his best theme since Unforgiven. Love it.

The crooning at the end of Gran Torino...I really like the song, and I'm still trying to get my hands on the rare promo disc of it (I have the score disc, but the song was not included). The version earlier in the film is really effective, and because the music is so sparse, when it IS used, it's very powerful. I was shocked at the end to hear Clint rasping his way through it, but that final moment was so moving, and to hear his voice at that point after the previous scenes...it was a very creative and effective touch.


 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2010 - 11:07 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

Allardyce:

Email.

"That old hag hates my ass."

smile

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2010 - 6:42 PM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

Public Enemies (2009) -- 4/10

Very well made, but I just couldn't connect with it.

Strange to hear about 5 seconds of Zimmer's Thin Red Line in the first few minutes of the movie...

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2010 - 7:12 PM   
 By:   Storyteller   (Member)

Going to see a midnight screening of Resident Evil 4... I can't wait. I'll post my review when I get back.

On a side note, this will be the first film I have seen on an IMAX 3D screen.

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2010 - 8:34 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

Hang 'Em High (1968): 6/10

Disappointing Clint Eastwood Western (with an enjoyable Dominic Frontiere score).

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2010 - 8:37 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Public Enemies (2009) -- 5/10

Very well made, but I just couldn't connect with it.

Strange to hear about 5 seconds of Zimmer's Thin Red Line in the first few minutes of the movie...


The Mesrine movies are exactly what Public Enemies should have been. If you like the idea of something like Public Enemies then watch Mesrine. I pretty much agree with you about Public Enemies. I didn't get into it at all and I especially was bothered by the strange look of it thanks to the digital camera used to shoot it.

The Perfect Getaway (2009) 9/10
Really enjoyed this one! I even tried to guess what was going on but was totally wrong the whole time. Very enjoyable movie with minimal gore but just great tension and suspense. The scenery was beautiful as well.

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2010 - 9:29 PM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

The Perfect Getaway (2009) 9/10
Really enjoyed this one! I even tried to guess what was going on but was totally wrong the whole time. Very enjoyable movie with minimal gore but just great tension and suspense. The scenery was beautiful as well.


Okay, sirusjr, this is mandatory: now that you've seen A Perfect Getaway and you liked it, watch it a second time. Totally different viewing experience, now that you are "in the know" and can spot all kinds of fun clues. So many wonderful subtle hints that were clearly intricately written into the script. Glad you liked it. Wasn't the big twist reveal really well done? (Kiele Sanchez watching the video footage, and the camera slowly moved in on her face as she realized who the killers were)


I'm definitely going to be one of the first to see the Mesrine movies when they hit DVD! I'll let you know what I think!

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2010 - 9:32 PM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

The River Wild (1994) -- 10/10

Seen it before, plenty of times, saw it in the theater sixteen years ago, still love it. Interesting that two of the finest thriller-in-nature films were scored by Jerry Goldsmith (The Edge, The River Wild).

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2010 - 12:05 AM   
 By:   Storyteller   (Member)

Just got back from RE4 and I am too tired and too disappointed to fully review it. The trailer was a bait and switch as all of the action you saw in it was only the first 10 minutes of the actual film. The rest of the film was a dull contrived mess with little action and no story to push it forward. There is a supposed mystery which any child could figure out and an ending that just made me giggle.

Worst of the series. 4/10

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2010 - 7:26 AM   
 By:   Cryogenix   (Member)

Posted by DeputyRiley

The River Wild (1994) -- 10/10

Seen it before, plenty of times, saw it in the theater sixteen years ago, still love it. Interesting that two of the finest thriller-in-nature films were scored by Jerry Goldsmith (The Edge, The River Wild).


I've seen it twice and enjoyed it both times. Obviously, Goldsmith's score helps it along quite a bit. You'd probably enjoy White Water Summer and White Mile.

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2010 - 7:46 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

Posted by DeputyRiley

The River Wild (1994) -- 10/10

Seen it before, plenty of times, saw it in the theater sixteen years ago, still love it. Interesting that two of the finest thriller-in-nature films were scored by Jerry Goldsmith (The Edge, The River Wild).


I've seen it twice and enjoyed it both times. Obviously, Goldsmith's score helps it along quite a bit. You'd probably enjoy White Water Summer and White Mile.


Haven't heard of White Mile, but I grew up on White Water Summer, seen it a handful of times and enjoyed it, although I haven't seen it in probably 15 + years...what can you tell me about White Mile?

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2010 - 1:47 PM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

Conan the Destroyer (1984) -- 6.5/10

Tracey Walter cracks me up. The Crystal Palace sequence is very cool...

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2010 - 3:59 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

The Road 9/10

This one hurts. Even though it's another modern movie with colour extraction the primary goal of every frame of every scene (think cigarette ash everywhere), the idea of going on in the face of hopelessness (carrying the fire) is so typical of us. Is Viggo heading for an oscar sometime soon?

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2010 - 4:27 PM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

Bedtime Stories (2008) -- 8/10

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2010 - 5:40 PM   
 By:   Odlicno   (Member)

High Tension 1/10

Very bloody. Bloody awful, more like. It goes on and on. It has a twist i never saw. But it's a rubbish twist. Bilge. A family who you never really get to meet and don't care about get killed by a killer.

Not slightly scary in the least.

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2010 - 7:23 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

The Road 9/10

This one hurts. Even though it's another modern movie with colour extraction the primary goal of every frame of every scene (think cigarette ash everywhere), the idea of going on in the face of hopelessness (carrying the fire) is so typical of us. Is Viggo heading for an oscar sometime soon?


I read the novel and tried to listen to the soundtrack but it is so depressing listening to the music I would hate to hear it in the movie itself. Interesting story though for the book.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2010 - 8:07 PM   
 By:   Odlicno   (Member)

The Parole Officer 2/10

Oh dear. So good on TV. Steve Coogan is terrible when he appears in anything on the silver screen - actually not too bad in Hamlet 2, though his American accent was terrible.
The score is mad. It goes from Hermann through Bernstein Mag 7 and then brassy Bond style all in one 5 minute cue near the end.

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2010 - 9:27 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Well I watched A Perfect Getaway for a second time. I certainly see the little hints and how it makes it slightly different but I wouldn't say that it is necessary to watch it a second time or adds all that much. Still a great film though.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2010 - 9:49 PM   
 By:   Odlicno   (Member)

Saxondale Season 1 - 9/10 - Very funny Steve Coogan TV comedy.

 
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