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Jan 23, 2014 - 11:23 AM
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Octoberman
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Never heard that term applied to Native Americans. You heard that somewhere?
Johnny Depp has alluded to presumed Native American ancestry, a great-grandmother in particular whom he believes to have been Cherokee or Creek, but he has never registered as a member of a tribe. Considering how ridiculous the role of Tonto was written, though, it's doubtful any self-respecting Native American would have taken it. I don't think Tonto even in the original LONE RANGER series could be considered much of a role model for young Native Americans.
In the context in which I used it, it merely refers to the indigenous people of any particular continent (it's just a personal preference). The term "native" would suit well enough, of course.
I've read the same things about Depp's lineage. But, true or not, it seems more to me like a bit of a lame attempt to legitimize the choice of him as Tonto. I imagine there are many bona fide Native actors who could act circles around him, but we would never know it if they are never selected. Of course, the same thing could be said for any casting choice.
I suppose if the filmmakers had been determined to use a genuine Native it would also have been necessary to write the role as less ridiculous. It was the movie's loss.
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Jan 23, 2014 - 2:24 PM
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Ado
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I think that line is just garbage - if casting a superstar was the goal, they could have easily cast a bankable star as the lead instead of Armie Hammer, and cast a Native American as a Native American.
Yeah, well this is not that complicated, Depp wanted to do this picture, he wanted to do Tonto, he makes like $25 million a movie, so they were not going to hire another $25 million guy for the other part, two actors $50 million, uh, no. That was not going to happen. This picture was built on the relationship between Depp, Jerry Bruckheimer, and Gore Verbinski, who made 4 Pirates pictures together that made tons of cash for Disney. That is where Lone Ranger came from, it was never going to be made without these three guys intact. You should know some backstory before tossing out 'garbage'.
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) 
... there seemed to be a number of "ain't that a bit much for kids?" moments in this 'Disney' flick. Even a variety of tongue-in-cheek sexual double entendres. I couldn't figure out who the target audience was... little kids desensitized to adult material OR adults desensitized to immature humor? 