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Aug 3, 2014 - 2:46 PM
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Solium
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"While technically a Marvel product the concept itself looks like a Roger Corman rip off of The Avengers. It's gonna bomb bad anyway." solium Posted: Nov 1, 2013 - 9:57 AM Where are these prophets now? Well if you read above I pretty much admitted to underestimating its opening at the box office. (And it's something most ppl on this board would ever do. Show humility.) It's clear the audience are into the Marvel brand like Pixar, they don't need to know the subject to go out in droves. Obviously something I didn't anticipate. But I stand by my personal opinion of the movie. Ugly obnoxious characters, bland score, dated songs and boring CGI. I have no interest in the film. I'll stick with Star Wars. I take it you're doing what others have done here and are (incorrectly) judging the movie and its songs based off the trailer. I've seen enough in the previews. I find the characters ugly and unappealing to even look at, much less watch for 2 hours. The green skin girl, the blue hulk with red veins all over his body. Ugly. Their not appealing. The demeanor of the raccoon and Starlord doesn't sit well with me either. Which is the biggest smart ass? Production values which are all glitz, overdone which I find painfully boring. Compared to Star Wars: Luke a grounded character, someone whom I can relate with, as he journey's from a boy into a young man. Chewie was soft and cute, but could also be aggressive as an angry bear. A much more three dimensional anthropomorphic character. Han Solo, cocky, daring and witty, without trying to bring attention to himself with lame jokes. The princess in a beautiful white dress yet tough as nails, makes for a very interesting and unorthodox damsel in distress. That's the distinction I make between the two. GOTG I guess is Star Wars for today's audience and I don't have those same sensibilities or tastes.
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Aug 3, 2014 - 3:43 PM
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Well they seem totally out of place in the trailers for one so that is a good indication of how they would work in the film. It all blends together to me anyway as a sea of horrible pop music whether 70s, 80s, or 90s. I have a hard time figuring out why anyone enjoyed most of what has become heavily-played "hits." You're judging how the popular songs would work in the film based off of the TRAILER? Seriously? Maybe you should, I don't know, go see the movie and see how the songs really work in the movie so you can revise your ill formed opinion. As I said, I will rent it on blu ray and see how it works. I have given up on going to the theaters for the rest of the year since upgrading my setup at home so I won't be seeing anything in theaters for the rest of the year except for maybe Interstellar. I'm tired of the overpowering bass that is used at theaters. At least at home I can turn it down a bit and enjoy a more natural mix. And anyway, what the hell is wrong with judging a movie based on the trailers? It is the only thing I have to base my decision on seeing a film. Critics rarely help me decide on a film. They seem to judge things on completely different criteria than I do. Rarely is there a review of a movie that I see recognizing that a movie can be good simply for presenting a good time. If the studios do a poor job presenting the trailers then they deserve to lose out on sales. Sure there are a lot of films that have horrible songs in the trailers that never show up in the movie but trailers usually give me a good feel for the tone of a film. If they don't represent the film then someone made a mistake. I think this post is more of a representation of your own issues when it comes to movies and music than it is the critics problems or the trailers issues. First, let's see a sampling of critics' quotes about this movie. "Guardians of the Galaxy is an open fire hydrant of a summer movie: more fun than should be allowed in such hot weather." David Hiltbrand, Philadelphia Inquirer "Gunn appears to remember the high of certain kinds of moviegoing, where when the credits are over, all you want to do is get back in line and enjoy the whole thing again." Wesley Morris, Grantland ""Guardians of the Galaxy" has wit, energy and zaniness to spare. It will pop your corn and leave you hungry for more." Tom Long, Detroit News "Guardians of the Galaxy does the impossible. Through dazzle and dumb luck, it turns the clichés of comic-book films on their idiot heads and hits you like an exhilarating blast of fun-fun-fun." Peter Travers, Rolling Stone "If Marvel is trying (in the words of one of the soundtrack's pop gems) to get us "hooked on a feeling," its job is done." Dana Stevens, Slate "A summer comic-book movie that effortlessly makes you feel like a wide-eyed, happy kid again." Randy Myers, San Jose Mercury News Rarely there is a review recognizing that a movie can be good simply for presenting a good time, eh? When Rotten Tomatoes can present all these quotes (from top critics, mind you) on one page, there's no reason for you to rarely see such a thing. As for the trailer bit, Guardians made $94 MILLION opening weekend. It's received an A Cinemascore. I would have seen this movie, based off of the "Hooked on a Feeling" trailer alone, Marvel property or not. Lots of other people did, too. Clearly, the trailers did their job, got people in to see an excellent movie, which gives them an explanation as to why the songs are what they are and what makes them so damn important (truthfully, the trailer does give you a glimpse into this if you're paying attention). The fact that you think the trailers do a poor job clearly puts you in the minority, because no one is going to spoil every single important plot point so that siriusjr is able to grasp why a popular song (or ten) would be in a space-faring science fiction comic book movie.
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Hey, what's wrong with green? Maybe I'm weird, but I found Zoe Saldana quite attractive in green, lol. Green, Blue, purple... didn't matter to Kirk, doesn't matter to me. Trailers really tell you very little about this movie, and to judge it as much as you have based solely on them is pretty shallow and pointless. You don't need "modern sensibilities" (by which I assume qualities such as vapid or shallow are implied) to enjoy GotG. Anyone who loved Star Wars back in the day should love this, except for people who've grown to hate fun as they grow old.
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I completely understand negative feelings based purely off the trailers, I don't think they present the film well at ALL. But really, you'd be doing yourself a huge disservice if you write it off just because marketing did a poor job in the trailer department. Its usually the other way around: great trailer, awful movie! But I can honestly say this was easily the most fun I've had in the cinema all year, and I'm usually super-critical when it comes to movies. I find that while many blockbusters these days look amazing and have tons of action, they are just these empty and cold affairs because they lack characters with any real connection or substance to them. Thats where this movie really differs. Its got so much heart and characters you actually give a damn about! Underneath all the creative sci-fi action and the sly humour there is the story of family, friendship and heroic sacrifice. What could easily come off as cheesy in the hands of another director somehow all pull together here. I really can't praise this movie enough. I knew walking out of the cinema that I'd be buying this on Blu the day it comes out (and I NEVER have that reaction!) Oh but you really do owe it to yourself to see this on a big big screen, to fully appreciate the vast scope of some of the awe-inspiring vistas on display. This is one gorgeous looking movie.
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Aug 3, 2014 - 3:47 PM
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Khan
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"While technically a Marvel product the concept itself looks like a Roger Corman rip off of The Avengers. It's gonna bomb bad anyway." solium Posted: Nov 1, 2013 - 9:57 AM Where are these prophets now? Well if you read above I pretty much admitted to underestimating its opening at the box office. (And it's something most ppl on this board would ever do. Show humility.) It's clear the audience are into the Marvel brand like Pixar, they don't need to know the subject to go out in droves. Obviously something I didn't anticipate. But I stand by my personal opinion of the movie. Ugly obnoxious characters, bland score, dated songs and boring CGI. I have no interest in the film. I'll stick with Star Wars. I take it you're doing what others have done here and are (incorrectly) judging the movie and its songs based off the trailer. I've seen enough in the previews. I find the characters ugly and unappealing to even look at, much less watch for 2 hours. The green skin girl, the blue hulk with red veins all over his body. Ugly. Their not appealing. The demeanor of the raccoon and Starlord doesn't sit well with me either. Which is the biggest smart ass? Production values which are all glitz, overdone which I find painfully boring. Compared to Star Wars: Luke a grounded character, someone whom I can relate with, as he journey's from a boy into a young man. Chewie was soft and cute, but could also be aggressive as an angry bear. A much more three dimensional anthropomorphic character. Han Solo, cocky, daring and witty, without trying to bring attention to himself with lame jokes. The princess in a beautiful white dress yet tough as nails, makes for a very interesting and unorthodox damsel in distress. That's the distinction I make between the two. GOTG I guess is Star Wars for today's audience and I don't have those same sensibilities or tastes. Thank goodness I get to base my opinion of the characters of Guardians on far more information than you. And thank goodness I'm not stuck in the past for my entertainment choices like you and so many other FSMers.
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I completely understand negative feelings based purely off the trailers, I don't think they present the film well at ALL. But really, you'd be doing yourself a huge disservice if you write it off just because marketing did a poor job in the trailer department. Its usually the other way around: great trailer, awful movie! I disagree - the first trailer that came out on Jimmy Kimmel Live was posted all over my Facebook feed - it got people genuinely excited for characters they knew almost nothing about. The other trailers just amped all that up. Marketing didn't do a poor job at all. They just did a poor job for people who appear predisposed to hate on the movie anyway. Ha! I think I was excited about the movie DESPITE the initial trailer (the early buzz even last year was so freakin positive), and I then made an effort not to watch any others, as I'm positively allergic to spoilers (I find extended trailers tend to spoil the crap out of movies!). Regardless of the merits of the trailer, I think the movie is SO worth seeing. I'm still debating it in my head, but this just might be my favourite Marvel movie so far.............
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Aug 3, 2014 - 4:05 PM
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Solium
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"While technically a Marvel product the concept itself looks like a Roger Corman rip off of The Avengers. It's gonna bomb bad anyway." solium Posted: Nov 1, 2013 - 9:57 AM Where are these prophets now? Well if you read above I pretty much admitted to underestimating its opening at the box office. (And it's something most ppl on this board would ever do. Show humility.) It's clear the audience are into the Marvel brand like Pixar, they don't need to know the subject to go out in droves. Obviously something I didn't anticipate. But I stand by my personal opinion of the movie. Ugly obnoxious characters, bland score, dated songs and boring CGI. I have no interest in the film. I'll stick with Star Wars. I take it you're doing what others have done here and are (incorrectly) judging the movie and its songs based off the trailer. I've seen enough in the previews. I find the characters ugly and unappealing to even look at, much less watch for 2 hours. The green skin girl, the blue hulk with red veins all over his body. Ugly. Their not appealing. The demeanor of the raccoon and Starlord doesn't sit well with me either. Which is the biggest smart ass? Production values which are all glitz, overdone which I find painfully boring. Compared to Star Wars: Luke a grounded character, someone whom I can relate with, as he journey's from a boy into a young man. Chewie was soft and cute, but could also be aggressive as an angry bear. A much more three dimensional anthropomorphic character. Han Solo, cocky, daring and witty, without trying to bring attention to himself with lame jokes. The princess in a beautiful white dress yet tough as nails, makes for a very interesting and unorthodox damsel in distress. That's the distinction I make between the two. GOTG I guess is Star Wars for today's audience and I don't have those same sensibilities or tastes. Thank goodness I get to base my opinion of the characters of Guardians on far more information than you. And thank goodness I'm not stuck in the past for my entertainment choices like you and so many other FSMers. Yes, the past when characters were interesting and appealing, the music was fabulous and the action sequences where dramatic and exciting. I'll live in the past thank you. Also what I read about the plot is just a retread of every other Marvel movie. So this makes it even less enticing.
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Aug 3, 2014 - 5:59 PM
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Compared to Star Wars: Luke a grounded character, someone whom I can relate with, as he journey's from a boy into a young man. Chewie was soft and cute, but could also be aggressive as an angry bear. A much more three dimensional anthropomorphic character. Han Solo, cocky, daring and witty, without trying to bring attention to himself with lame jokes. The princess in a beautiful white dress yet tough as nails, makes for a very interesting and unorthodox damsel in distress. That's the distinction I make between the two. GOTG I guess is Star Wars for today's audience and I don't have those same sensibilities or tastes. Yes, let's compare to Star Wars (Lucas' original film), as I have incited in my opening post... Guardians of the Galaxy: Peter Quill, a grounded character, someone whom I personally can relate with, as he journey's from a boy into a young man. Star-Lord is far from a Joseph Campbell archetype, and all the better for it. A young man, foolish and funny, still holding onto his beloved memories of his planet and his family. Groot hard and cute, but can also be as aggressive as a sentient tree most likely is. A very three-dimensional anthropomorphic character who is allowed moments of humor, aggression, and sacifice. Rocket, cocky, daring and witty, yet he hides his courage, intelligence, and do-good nature behind a veneer of a wiseass machine gun-toting bounty hunter. Gamora, the warrior woman with green skin: tough as nails, but also foolish in her agression and weaknesses. Only once is she played as a damsel in distress, when faced with overwhelming blind-vengeance-driven oppostion. Oh, and we must not forget Drax the Destroyer. A prideful titan hell-bent on exacting revenge, despite the fact that his pride is his weakness. Only through our weaknesses do we learn what it means to have a family to band together with. Drax and Dave Bautista's performance stole away much of this movie for me. An excellent, trained athletic actor with presence and impeccable comic timing. Shit, I've forgotten Yondu. An original member of the comic book team, here portrayed by the fantastic Michael Rooker as a tempered but loving surrogate alien uncle. Here in Marvel and James Gunn's film we've got a new misfit group to rally along as they fight against oppression and ultimate evil. Those who have seen the film know all too true that these comparisons can be made all day, and you are only denying something that even your own cold heart could feel something, anything in the cosmic war between Xandar and the fantastical Kree warlord Ronan the Accuser which our band of outsiders must confront. Don't assume you've grown out of youthful sensibilities, attempt to have fun again.
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Shit, I've forgotten Yondu. An original member of the comic book team, here portrayed by the fantastic Michael Rooker as a tempered but loving surrogate alien uncle. I keep forgetting to praise Rooker, he really was fantastic in this. In any other movie his character would be played off as the bumbling buffoon, always one step behind his quarry. And Lee Pace was impossibly imposing as Ronan. His days as the shy baker in Pushing Daisies seem like a distant memory!
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Aug 3, 2014 - 8:30 PM
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Joe E.
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And you are right, critics can sometimes point out how much fun a movie is without worrying about other things but the last time I got sucked into all that I ended up seeing the ridiculous Lego movie, which was not that great so I guess I hate fun. Mm, that sounds about right to me. . No movie can possibly satisfy everyone, of course, but The LEGO Movie clearly did a great many regular people and critics alike (to say nothing of hardcore LEGO fans), so I'd say it was pretty great - not just entertaining, but honestly quite stirring and moving, and a paean to creativity. If you think it "was not that great," I think it's more a matter of the movie just not working for you, and a small number of others - which is fine. It may be that Guardians of the Galaxy isn't for you, either, which is also fine. But both movies clearly do entertain a great many people, and I'd say that makes them indeed fun.
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