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 Posted:   Jun 19, 2013 - 1:29 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I've "struggled" my way through the Hartnell and Troughton eras with all the 'restorations' from Loose Cannon and the like

And how is your grand trek through Doctor Who going so far?


Just finished Season 8. I'm seeing this more to get 'context' for the 2005 reboot than out of pure pleasure, but there are some good episodes now and then.

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2013 - 5:14 PM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

The escalation of internet speculation over the potential discovery/recovery of Doctor Who episodes currently missing from the BBC archive has led the corporation to issue a statement about it.

Philip Fleming, the Head of Communications, Brands, Content & Digital at BBC Worldwide, said:
There are always rumours and speculation about Doctor Who missing episodes being discovered. However, we cannot confirm any new finds.
He was responding to reports of a large number of episodes having been found in Africa.

Radio Times subsequently queried what exactly the BBC meant by saying that it could not confirm any new finds, to which a BBC spokeswoman said: "We can't confirm because it's not true as far as I'm aware." Pressed further about whether or not the BBC was in talks with people about episodes, she said: "I don’t think so", while to the question "So there are no episodes?" she responded: "Not as far as we know."

Following the discoveries of the Galaxy 4 episode Air Lock and The Underwater Menace episode 2 in 2011, hopes have been high in fandom that more missing episodes are out there. However, Doctor Who News will continue its policy of reporting only on official statements.

http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2013/06/bbc-statement-missing-episodes-190613210917.html

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2013 - 12:19 AM   
 By:   tarasis   (Member)

{Joke} Its all a big con to deflect us from being too nosey about who's auditioning to replace Matt Smith smile

 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2013 - 6:44 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

{Joke} Its all a big con to deflect us from being too nosey about who's auditioning to replace Matt Smith smile

I thought nuWho and real Doctor Who were, for the most part, two separate audiences. Kind of like those who read comic books and those who love the CGI super-hero movie extravaganzas. Imagine my dismay when that long Doctor Who Seventh Series thread wasnt about Jon Pertwee and classic stories like The Ambassadors of Death and Inferno.big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2013 - 8:26 AM   
 By:   tarasis   (Member)


I thought nuWho and real Doctor Who were, for the most part, two separate audiences. Kind of like those who read comic books and those who love the CGI super-hero movie extravaganzas. Imagine my dismay when that long Doctor Who Seventh Series thread wasnt about Jon Pertwee and classic stories like The Ambassadors of Death and Inferno.big grin


For some yes, me I like both Who's, so I think of them as a single whole entity even if I prefer the older format (multi episode story arcs, cliffhangers galore).

I can imagine your dismay at the thread though smile Though series 35 or 36 would equally confuse new people. (And then working out do you count the 1996 movie as a series? What about the Tennant specials)

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2013 - 8:40 AM   
 By:   (Member)   (Member)

Zoe Kills Computers With Her Brain:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3fyKChJrZw

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2013 - 11:57 AM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

{Joke} Its all a big con to deflect us from being too nosey about who's auditioning to replace Matt Smith smile

I thought nuWho and real Doctor Who were, for the most part, two separate audiences. Kind of like those who read comic books and those who love the CGI super-hero movie extravaganzas. Imagine my dismay when that long Doctor Who Seventh Series thread wasnt about Jon Pertwee and classic stories like The Ambassadors of Death and Inferno.big grin


Well, I'm sure there are plenty of people who do in fact like only one or the other (and plenty more still who like only the runs of certain incarnations of the Doctor, within both of those runs), but I do also know there are plenty of people who just look at it and enjoy it all as simply "Doctor Who," without regard for distinctions between eras and the like.

(I'm pretty sure the same is true for practically any series that can be easily broken down into different eras, casts, media, etc. - see Star Trek, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, etc.)

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2013 - 12:20 PM   
 By:   (Member)   (Member)

Pertwee first! Troughton second! Oh, my word.

 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2013 - 10:49 AM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

We recently ran a story that "a massive haul of missing Doctor Who episodes" may have been discovered. Denials were quick to come through but at that time it was also rumoured that in addition to Doctor Who, missing episodes of Dad's Army and Morcambe & Wise were also among the find.

Jump forward to the last few days and we see a mysterious update appear on the BBC's Dad's Army web page. It currently lists the three existing episodes, but now has the added note that There will be 6 episodes - more information coming soon. Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not.

In addition, despite issuing flat denials, Philip Morris - who was at the centre of the earlier rumours - is keeping tight lipped and allegedly giving an exclusive interview to Starburst over the whole missing episodes wild goose chase.

Could these two small hints suggest there may be more to previous rumours than admitted by the BBC and others?


http://television.thedigitalfix.com/Content/1483/could-dads-army-hint-at-missing-doctor-who-discovery.html

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2013 - 11:22 AM   
 By:   (Member)   (Member)

We recently ran a story that "a massive haul of missing Doctor Who episodes" may have been discovered. Denials were quick to come through but at that time it was also rumoured that in addition to Doctor Who, missing episodes of Dad's Army and Morcambe & Wise were also among the find.

Jump forward to the last few days and we see a mysterious update appear on the BBC's Dad's Army web page. It currently lists the three existing episodes, but now has the added note that There will be 6 episodes - more information coming soon. Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not.

In addition, despite issuing flat denials, Philip Morris - who was at the centre of the earlier rumours - is keeping tight lipped and allegedly giving an exclusive interview to Starburst over the whole missing episodes wild goose chase.

Could these two small hints suggest there may be more to previous rumours than admitted by the BBC and others?


http://television.thedigitalfix.com/Content/1483/could-dads-army-hint-at-missing-doctor-who-discovery.html



If we could get the complete "The Invasion" with Pat Troughton.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2013 - 8:12 PM   
 By:   steve matthewman   (Member)

Talking to a friend who has contacts in BBC and apparantly they have recovered 90, count them ..90 episodes of Dr.Who !!
Some may be what we already have, but believed to have recovered 'Power Of The Daleks' & 'Web Of Fear' and other Troughton episodes.
The BBC are NOT going to be making ANY announcements until late November !!

 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2013 - 3:28 PM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

Here we go again...

The websites of the Radio Times magazine and the Daily Mirror newspaper in the UK have this evening published articles claiming that episodes of Doctor Who previously missing from the BBC's archives, starring Patrick Troughton as the Doctor and unseen in the UK since the 1960s, have been recovered and will be made available for sale in the UK via online download on Wednesday 9th October.

The news follows an article published by the Mirror's sister title, The People, this morning. While this earlier article contained the unlikely claim that all missing episodes of Doctor Who had been recovered from a station in Ethiopia, it follows months of speculation in fandom that a large number of episodes had been recovered, with many of the circulating rumours focusing on a recovery from Africa.

Officially, 106 of the 253 episodes of Doctor Who broadcast during the 1960s are missing, being wiped or junked due to the BBC's archiving policies of the 1960s and 70s. Since this policy changed in the late 1970s many episodes have been recovered, but there have been just four such recoveries in the past twenty years.

So far there is no official comment from the BBC on the articles published this evening, but the Radio Times - which was formerly owned by the Corporation, and has always had strong links with Doctor Who - claims:


BBC Worldwide will put two previously lost episodes from different stories – both believed to be from the Patrick Troughton era – for sale on digital platforms such as iTunes from Wednesday, RadioTimes.com understands.

They are believed to originate from a haul discovered in Africa and have been digitally remastered for sale, although exact details remain sketchy.

The Mirror article adds:


The 1960s programmes – featuring the first two William Hartnell and Patrick Troughton – vanished after the Beeb flogged off a load of old footage and wiped copies or lost them.

But the corporation’s commercial arm BBC Worldwide has now called a press conference and screening on Tuesday in a London hotel.

The invitation sent out had he event details written inside the screen of a old-fashioned sixties style television set, complete with a dial to tune in the channels, seeming to hint at the type of news to come.

Journalists will be told exactly which old footage has been recovered, with some of it then broadcast on screen to watch.

Doctor Who News cannot confirm any episode recoveries, only that the Radio Times and the Mirror are reporting the news. We will continue to monitor the story and bring you updates as we have them.


http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2013/10/missing-eps-report-06102013211915.html

 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2013 - 3:31 PM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

Here we go again...

The websites of the Radio Times magazine and the Daily Mirror newspaper in the UK have this evening published articles claiming that episodes of Doctor Who previously missing from the BBC's archives, starring Patrick Troughton as the Doctor and unseen in the UK since the 1960s, have been recovered and will be made available for sale in the UK via online download on Wednesday 9th October.

The news follows an article published by the Mirror's sister title, The People, this morning. While this earlier article contained the unlikely claim that all missing episodes of Doctor Who had been recovered from a station in Ethiopia, it follows months of speculation in fandom that a large number of episodes had been recovered, with many of the circulating rumours focusing on a recovery from Africa.

Officially, 106 of the 253 episodes of Doctor Who broadcast during the 1960s are missing, being wiped or junked due to the BBC's archiving policies of the 1960s and 70s. Since this policy changed in the late 1970s many episodes have been recovered, but there have been just four such recoveries in the past twenty years.

So far there is no official comment from the BBC on the articles published this evening, but the Radio Times - which was formerly owned by the Corporation, and has always had strong links with Doctor Who - claims:


BBC Worldwide will put two previously lost episodes from different stories – both believed to be from the Patrick Troughton era – for sale on digital platforms such as iTunes from Wednesday, RadioTimes.com understands.

They are believed to originate from a haul discovered in Africa and have been digitally remastered for sale, although exact details remain sketchy.

The Mirror article adds:


The 1960s programmes – featuring the first two William Hartnell and Patrick Troughton – vanished after the Beeb flogged off a load of old footage and wiped copies or lost them.

But the corporation’s commercial arm BBC Worldwide has now called a press conference and screening on Tuesday in a London hotel.

The invitation sent out had he event details written inside the screen of a old-fashioned sixties style television set, complete with a dial to tune in the channels, seeming to hint at the type of news to come.

Journalists will be told exactly which old footage has been recovered, with some of it then broadcast on screen to watch.

Doctor Who News cannot confirm any episode recoveries, only that the Radio Times and the Mirror are reporting the news. We will continue to monitor the story and bring you updates as we have them.


http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2013/10/missing-eps-report-06102013211915.html


Here's the article that ran in The Mirror.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/106-doctor-who-episodes-uncovered-2343474

 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2013 - 3:43 PM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

Update.

In what is hopefully more than a cheap headline grab and regurgitation of past rumours, The Mirror are claiming that “at least 100? Doctor Who episodes, originally wiped from BBC archives and thought lost forever, have been recovered.

Their article states:


A group of dedicated Doctor Who fans tracked down at least 100 long-lost episodes of the show gathering dust more than 3,000 miles away in Ethiopia.

It was feared the BBC ­programmes from the 1960s – featuring the first two doctors William Hartnell and Patrick Troughton – had vanished for all time after the Beeb flogged off a load of old footage. But after months of ­detective work the tapes have been unearthed at the Ethiopian Radio and Television Agency.

If the tapes are returned in time the BBC hopes to announce the news during ­celebrations to mark Doctor Who’s 50th ­anniversary next month.

The recovered episodes from the 60s include much-loved scenes from The Crusade, The Enemy of the World and The Ice Warriors series.

After each airing only once between 1964 and 1969, copies were sold to the Ethiopian Agency and the BBC then lost or wiped the originals.

Doctor Who expert Stuart Kelly revealed news of the discovery at the Wigtown Book Festival in Scotland last week.

When contacted by the Sunday People he said: “I was told by a friend that the ­episodes have been found in Ethiopia. The BBC is ­negotiating to get them back right now. I really can’t say any more than that.”

Rumours emerged of the lost shows earlier this year when tapes and 16in films of 90 episodes were thought to have been handed to a TV historian after turning up in a container loaded on a ship from Zambia.

It is best to treat this one with a lot of caution especially given the source and lack of BBC confirmation, but the prospect is tantalising.

UPDATE:

As expected, there have been conflicting reactions to this story throughout Sunday, with no official statement from BBC at the time of writing. Certain sources closely connected to the show have been vocal on Twitter though.

Doctor Who’s brand manager Edward Russell said: “It’s Sunday. The weather’s gray and the papers are full of rubbish…” Asked if he was referring to the above story, he replied, “What do you think?!”

Paul Vanezis from the Doctor Who Restoration Team wrote on his Twitter: “I would love it to be true. But it isn’t.”

Tom Spilsbury, editor of Doctor Who Magazine, said: “It’s nonsense, I’m afraid.”

However, Doctor Who Online claimed: “There is definitely some misinformation with the #DoctorWho Missing Episode rumours in todays @DailyMirror. We will finally break our silence on subject by saying missing episodes HAVE been found and some official news will be released within the next month. Can’t say anything further, but it seems various outlets are reporting this now. As far as we’ve been told, it’s not as many as 100.”

Our original thought remains and we’ll wait until official BBC confirmation before celebrating. Some sources claim an announcement could be coming as soon as mid-week, but again this is presently unverified. As ever, we’ll have to wait and see.

UPDATE 2: From the Radio Times:


Missing episodes of Doctor Who will be made available for sale to the public this week.

BBC Worldwide will put the previously lost episodes from different stories – both believed to be from the Patrick Troughton era – for sale on digital platforms such as iTunes from Wednesday, RadioTimes.com understands.

They are believed to originate from a haul discovered in Africa and have been digitally remastered for sale, although exact details remain sketchy.

A BBC Worldwide spokesman refused to officially confirm the discovery or the “speculation” around further missing episodes.

It is understood that other episodes have also been found, although it is not yet known whether these will be made available.

UPDATE 3: From The Mirror:


BBC Worldwide has now called a press conference and screening on Tuesday in a London hotel.

The invitation sent out had he event details written inside the screen of a old-fashioned sixties style television set, complete with a dial to tune in the channels, seeming to hint at the type of news to come.

Journalists will be told exactly which old footage has been recovered, with some of it then broadcast on screen to watch.

A senior BBC source said: “There will be big news this Tuesday regarding lost Doctor Who episodes.

“It is great that in the show’s 50th year, fans will now be able to look back with classic episodes as well as looking to the future with the new film-length episode in November.

“For some fans watching their lost episodes will be like going back in time.”

A BBC spokesman played down the reports that more than 100 of the old episodes had been found.

However, when asked if there were some episodes to announce this week, he admitted: “There is a connection.”

Asked for a further official comment, he said he could not say anything more before Tuesday’s press screening.


http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/lost-doctor-who-classics-found-53619.htm

 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2013 - 8:50 PM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

Tantalizing....I am hopeful....they would not roll out the barrel like this just for an episode or two...unless it was one in particular...so things are looking good for at least a few to have been rediscovered....

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2013 - 3:03 AM   
 By:   Ian J.   (Member)

Tantalizing....I am hopeful....they would not roll out the barrel like this just for an episode or two...unless it was one in particular...so things are looking good for at least a few to have been rediscovered....

I am hopeful too, but as something of a cynic and a firm believer in the scientific method (specifically the bit of the method requiring evidence not hearsay or speculation) I want to see an official BBC announcement before I'll believe any newspaper article.

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2013 - 3:59 AM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

I am hopeful too, but as something of a cynic and a firm believer in the scientific method (specifically the bit of the method requiring evidence not hearsay or speculation) I want to see an official BBC announcement before I'll believe any newspaper article.

Absolutely...especially where The Mirror is concerned wink

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2013 - 4:43 PM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

Update.

http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/lost-doctor-who-classics-found-53619.htm

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2013 - 4:56 PM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

After many months of speculation, the BBC is now tantalisingly close to officially announcing the discovery of missing episodes of Doctor Who from the 1960's. Following yesterdays (inaccurate) report from The Mirror newspaper (quoting from the original Sunday People article) that "106 Doctor Who Episodes have been uncovered in Ethiopia", DWO took to Twitter to clarify some of the misleading details, simply stating missing episodes had been found, but that the BBC will announce it officially in due course:

Radio Times then took it upon themselves to scoop the waiting media with further details by reporting that newly discovered lost episodes are being prepared for digital release this week. The article suggested that two missing episodes will be released on Wednesday, before quickly removing reference to the number two and the word 'episodes' - suggesting it could be whole stories.

Their amended statement now reads:

"BBC Worldwide will put the previously lost episodes from different stories – both believed to be from the Patrick Troughton era – for sale on digital platforms such as iTunes from Wednesday, RadioTimes.com understands. They are believed to originate from a haul discovered in Africa and have been digitally remastered for sale, although exact details remain sketchy."

Online speculation has been rife, with many rumours circulating that the two stories to be released will be 'The Web Of Fear' and 'The Enemy Of The World' - both featuring Patrick Troughton as The Doctor. There are also reports that the First Doctor adventure, 'Marco Polo' could also be announced.

It is also widely believed that beyond the imminent announcement, that further episodes have been recovered and will be announced at a later date.

Members of the press have been invited to attend a press conference this week which will officially confirm the news.

It is expected that an in-depth feature covering the discovery of the missing episodes will appear in an upcoming issue of Doctor Who Magazine.

http://news.drwho-online.co.uk/Lost-Doctor-Who-Episodes-Found!.aspx

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2013 - 6:38 PM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

Of course I've never seen "Web of Fear", but it was a favourite book of mine when I was school age (and I think I still have it somewhere?)...would love to see that live on-screen....so excited to think that we MAY be about to see more episodes!

 
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