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Jan 18, 2013 - 8:10 PM
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dogplant
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You mean Aliens (which follows the original very well) or Alien 2: On Earth (which I've never seen)?
Wow, I was just about to write a big long reply to Greg, discussing the merits of "Alien and "Aliens", but then I saw your post, Buscemi, and dug up the following link -- not for the squeamish, so I won't embed it here. Yikes!
Alien 2: (What) On Earth trailer
http://youtu.be/KRYbS4AypxE
Greg, if you are remotely interested in science fiction, or action films, and have not seen Cameron's "Alien" sequel you should check out "Aliens". It's terrific fun. Interesting website all about the "Alien" films here: http://alienseries.wordpress.com
P.S. Back on topic: I seem to recall the "Planet of the Apes" films had some shaky story logic continuity from film to film, although I remain fond of most of those. Except perhaps the second.
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Jan 21, 2013 - 3:38 AM
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Joe E.
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Star Trek VI TUC pretends Trek V TFF never happened.
Really? I've never gotten the impression that it pretends V never happened. It certainly doesn't go out of its way to say it's ignoring it.
No mention or reference to any of the events that happened in film 5 is what I'm basically saying. Several of the characters in TUC have dialogue recalling events in films 2, 3 and 4 but not 5. Perhaps someone can correct me if I'm forgetting something.
Well, there are also dozens and dozens of episodes of the TV series that aren't directly and specifically referenced in dialogue in the movies, but that doesn't mean they're pretending they don't exist, either.
Star Trek V: The Final Frontier may indeed be an installment that most concerned parties would just as soon pretend doesn't exist, but it's also a pretty self-contained little adventure that wouldn't really do all that much to impact other adventures, anyway. II, III & IV have significant events like major character deaths (and a resurrection), as well as events with political ramifications. The only characters killed off in V are ones we'd never seen or heard of before anyway, and the political events seen there could actually be seen as kind of a prelude to the more extended peace talks between the Federation and the Klingons seen in VI.
The makers of Trek VI may not have specifically gone out of their way to reference the events of Trek V, but they didn't really make a point of conflicting with it, either (if anything, Trek V all by itself arguably does more to contradict itself and/or previously-established Trek canon than subsequent productions did to contradict it).
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Jan 21, 2013 - 10:48 AM
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Solium
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Speaking of which, Star Trek 2 TWOK pretends Star Trek The Motion Picture never existed. There are no references to the previous film at all not to mention a redesign of clothing and sets. Also at the end of TMP Kirk got his "chair" back. In the beginning of WOK Kirk obviously had a desk job.
Star Trek VI TUC pretends Trek V TFF never happened.
Really? I've never gotten the impression that it pretends V never happened. It certainly doesn't go out of its way to say it's ignoring it.
No mention or reference to any of the events that happened in film 5 is what I'm basically saying. Several of the characters in TUC have dialogue recalling events in films 2, 3 and 4 but not 5. Perhaps someone can correct me if I'm forgetting something.
Well, there are also dozens and dozens of episodes of the TV series that aren't directly and specifically referenced in dialogue in the movies, but that doesn't mean they're pretending they don't exist, either.
Star Trek V: The Final Frontier may indeed be an installment that most concerned parties would just as soon pretend doesn't exist, but it's also a pretty self-contained little adventure that wouldn't really do all that much to impact other adventures, anyway. II, III & IV have significant events like major character deaths (and a resurrection), as well as events with political ramifications. The only characters killed off in V are ones we'd never seen or heard of before anyway, and the political events seen there could actually be seen as kind of a prelude to the more extended peace talks between the Federation and the Klingons seen in VI.
The makers of Trek VI may not have specifically gone out of their way to reference the events of Trek V, but they didn't really make a point of conflicting with it, either (if anything, Trek V all by itself arguably does more to contradict itself and/or previously-established Trek canon than subsequent productions did to contradict it).
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