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Mr. Greg: Re your: I quite enjoyed the first one...but the sequels left me cold...scores were (mostly) good...but I was always surprised that so few of the rabid audience these films found actually questioned the morals therein - it's all really quite.....disturbing....if you think about it...
Oh dear. Then you must also question the "morals" of about 75% of the movies being made. Most of us had no problems with it on that level, but I can understand those who criticized it for its story or its acting, which even I admit can be awfully wooden and stilted at times, however much I loved the first one and enjoyed the other 4 to various degrees. I adored Carter Burwell's soundtrack for the first, less so for Alexandre Desplat's for the second, liked a lot of Howard Shore's for the third (but he was NO Carter Burwell), and was overjoyed when Burwell returned for the fourth and fifth chapters. I have a pretty large TWILIGHT playlist (64 cues, 2 hours and 44 minutes) with most of the instrumental cues but only 4 selected songs (by Linkin Park, Paramour, Metric, and Christina Perri), and music has always been an important factor for many of us who like or love that series. But "disturbing"? This is a fictional story about vampires and werewolves. Get over it.
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I received it, but have been placing so many pre-orders lately, mostly for CDs, but also things like "Twilight Forever" and "Downton Abbey 4," that I screwed up and placed the order for "Twilight Forever" twice, receiving 2 of them today. And now they're charging me to ship it back AND probably charge me shipping for an item that came with it, so it will have cost me nearly $60 for the set. Damn. Anybody in Los Angeles want to buy the 2nd copy (new and unopened) at a discount? [Too late: Decided to ship the 2nd copy back to Amazon, but it would have been a good deal for anyone locally who was going to buy it anyway!)
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Mr Greg
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Oh dear. Then you must also question the "morals" of about 75% of the movies being made. Most of us had no problems with it on that level, but I can understand those who criticized it for its story or its acting, which even I admit can be awfully wooden and stilted at times, however much I loved the first one and enjoyed the other 4 to various degrees. I adored Carter Burwell's soundtrack for the first, less so for Alexandre Desplat's for the second, liked a lot of Howard Shore's for the third (but he was NO Carter Burwell), and was overjoyed when Burwell returned for the fourth and fifth chapters. I have a pretty large TWILIGHT playlist (64 cues, 2 hours and 44 minutes) with most of the instrumental cues but only 4 selected songs (by Linkin Park, Paramour, Metric, and Christina Perri), and music has always been an important factor for many of us who like or love that series. But "disturbing"? This is a fictional story about vampires and werewolves. Get over it.
Sorry - just saw this - what?? Lol - nothing for me to "get Over" because I was never "Not Over It" in the first place! I'm well aware of what the story is, all I was saying was that I found it surprising that the screaming horde of fans these films produced appeared to overlook a highly questionable morality. 'Tis all...no drama 
And yes - Carter Burwell's score for the first one is still the highlight of that series' scores (for me).
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Mr. Greg: Re "… all I was saying was that I found it surprising that the screaming horde of fans these films produced appeared to overlook a highly questionable morality" (And possibly massage)
"A highly questionable morality?" Are you referring to humans having carnal relations with the undead? Or a werewolf so in love with a human being? Or that some of them were having sex outside of marriage? I realize that marriage equality hasn't reached the stage where most states accept marriage between humans and vampires, but give it some time and, one by one, they should all come around. But don't let it worry you so much -- I'm sure they would have happily gotten married if they could.
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Mr. Greg: Re "… all I was saying was that I found it surprising that the screaming horde of fans these films produced appeared to overlook a highly questionable morality" (And possibly massage)
"A highly questionable morality?" Are you referring to humans having carnal relations with the undead? Or a werewolf so in love with a human being? Or that some of them were having sex outside of marriage? I realize that marriage equality hasn't reached the stage where most states accept marriage between humans and vampires, but give it some time and, one by one, they should all come around. But don't let it worry you so much -- I'm sure they would have happily gotten married if they could.
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Mr. Greg: Re "… all I was saying was that I found it surprising that the screaming horde of fans these films produced appeared to overlook a highly questionable morality" (And possibly Mastadge)
"A highly questionable morality?" Are you referring to humans having carnal relations with the undead? Or a werewolf so in love with a human being? Or that some of them were having sex outside of marriage? I realize that marriage equality hasn't reached the stage where most states accept marriage between humans and vampires, but give it some time and, one by one, they should all come around. But don't let it worry you so much -- I'm sure they would have happily gotten married if they could. And if Mr. Greg and Mastadge (who wrote "...all I was saying was that I found it surprising that the screaming horde of fans these films produced appeared to overlook a highly questionable morality") were referring mainly to vampires killing humans, just remember that the GOOD vampires were trying their best to live off wild life and packets of bloodbank blood, and it was just the BAD ones killing innocent humans, and we see bad guys killing innocent humans in about 50% of movies made today.
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Mastadge:
Re: "I suspect this issue in question involves a century-old dude climbing into a 17-year-old's bedroom."
Oh puleeeeeeeeeze! That's sooooooooooo ridiculous. They never had sex until after they got married and AFTER Bella turned 18, which should probably cheer you, although you probably feel that DOMA should be invoked when it comes to vampires in love with humans.
Hey -- my spellchecker kept changing m a s t a d g e to massage the six times I tried, until I capitalized it and it finally let me keep it the way you spelled it -- at one point I had sent the earlier comment and had to go back to correct it, probably just before you saw it.
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Re: "So there would be nothing wrong with me, as an adult, creeping into a minor's bedroom?"
This is a movie about a human falling in love with a vampire. As far as I know, it isn't based on a true story. It's from a gothic romance novel, and to even bring up something like that (and making such a ludicrous analogy) is very troubling.
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But why not bring that up when you wrote about "Masters of Sex"? Perhaps you've not seen it?
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I spent much of today watching tons of extras on the 10 Blu-ray package "Twilight Forever," and it was a joy. Watched much of "Breaking Dawn Part Two," including the ending, which, again, brought out the tears. I'm astonished at how good some of the extras are! It's a treasure trove for "Twilight" fans! The elaborate book-like packaging is very attractive, although I am bothered that it's so awkward pulling the discs out -- if you use your fingertips, you risk scratching them, if you use most of your finger, you get fingerprints all over the discs. I'll just have to take special pains when removing each disc.
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MikeP: Jesus. Not you too???
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I began this about the 10 Blu-ray set "Twilight Forever … The Complete Saga," and, along with playing these discs, I've also been playing the 5 soundtracks, and Carter Burwell's music for the first one, "Twilight," remains the best, although his variations for "Breaking Dawn (Parts One and Two)" also have some wonderful moments. I've listened to a lot of that music with headphones, but usually prefer it coming out of my surround sound system with several large Klipsch towers. What truly beautiful music!
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