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 Posted:   Jan 23, 2014 - 7:36 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I do not think too many heterosexual guys enjoy boy bands.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2014 - 9:30 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

I do not think too many heterosexual guys enjoy boy bands.




What the hell ??


 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2014 - 10:38 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

ado: Re: I do not think too many heterosexual guys enjoy boy bands.

What a ridiculous, even horrifying, comment. ado, what were you thinking??? I guess the answer to that is obvious: You weren't thinking.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2014 - 1:36 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

ado: Re: I do not think too many heterosexual guys enjoy boy bands.

What a ridiculous, even horrifying, comment. ado, what were you thinking??? I guess the answer to that is obvious: You weren't thinking.


Why is that not thinking, sorry, I have never met a hetrosexual guy that said he liked any of the Boy Bands that I know of, why is it horrible exactly? I mean is saying that hetrosexual guys do not like Barbara Streisand or Barry Manilow also horrible? I mean are there some, yes, but they are not the majority, it is just true.

And --- I am pretty liberal, but one the lamest liberal terms to criticize people that they disagree with is along the lines of:

you are not thinking
or
not educated
not sophisticated enough

So what it means is that if I do not share your point of view on an issue I am just not as smart as you. It is an asinine and strangely non-open minded interaction.

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2014 - 3:44 PM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

Hey!! Leave Barry out of this! I'm a Manilow completist, huge fan. His music means a lot to me, I've seen him live many times. And I'm 'heterosexual'.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2014 - 4:16 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Hey!! Leave Barry out of this! I'm a Manilow completist, huge fan. His music means a lot to me, I've seen him live many times. And I'm 'heterosexual'.


Thomas,

I never said anything insulting about Barry, or that you were required to be gay to like him.
Enjoy your Barry all you like you hetrosexual man.

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2014 - 5:51 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

ado: Re: I do not think too many heterosexual guys enjoy boy bands.

What a ridiculous, even horrifying, comment. ado, what were you thinking??? I guess the answer to that is obvious: You weren't thinking.


Why is that not thinking, sorry, I have never met a hetrosexual guy that said he liked any of the Boy Bands that I know of, why is it horrible exactly? I mean is saying that hetrosexual guys do not like Barbara Streisand or Barry Manilow also horrible? I mean are there some, yes, but they are not the majority, it is just true.

And --- I am pretty liberal, but one the lamest liberal terms to criticize people that they disagree with is along the lines of:

you are not thinking
or
not educated
not sophisticated enough

So what it means is that if I do not share your point of view on an issue I am just not as smart as you. It is an asinine and strangely non-open minded interaction.


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Because you are being stereotypical!!! To you, since you, a heterosexual, don't care for boy bands and because your friends, heterosexuals, don't care for boy bands, you've never met a heterosexual who likes them. (Why even make such an idiotic point on a thread about a beloved musical group???) My god, this is a perfect example of why people can seem very intelligent … until they open their mouths. I know many heterosexual women AND their husbands who truly love Ronan Keating, the lead singer of Boyzone, and loved Stephen Gateley and mourned when he died (no, NOT of AIDS!!!) and love the group itself. To you, ado, since you don't know any heterosexuals who care for boy bands you unthinkingly perpetuate the stereotype that heterosexuals don't enjoy boy bands. And your reply hasn't made your original "I do not think too many heterosexual guys enjoy boy bands." any less stereotypical, any less offensive. And why in the world did you feel compelled to make such a point???

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2014 - 5:58 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Ron,

You are a good writer, but what you have responded is not really that effective, aside from basically telling me that you are really pissed off by this sterotype. I stand by what I said.

Sterotypes are not necessarily wrong, even if they are politically incorrect or offensive. Yeah, I know we are taught by our ever instutionalized diversity and political correctness agendas that any stereotype is naturally evil, and that anything that ever offends anyone about a sexual or race group is evil. Frankly I do not buy it. And saying what I did about boy bands does not mean I hate gay people.


But I did not really make a completely steretypical statement like ' all gay guys like boy bands, or all straight guys do not like boy bands.

I think it remains fairly accurate that teen girls are the predominate audience for boy bands, that is always how it has been, there will some guys too, some gay and some straight. But I do not see droves of screaming guys going to One Direction concerts.

For a stereotype wrench in the works; I like Erasure and Pet Shop Boys.

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2014 - 6:05 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

ado:

Yes, the biggest group who go to see boy bands (and buy their music) are teen girls. But as I look at my Blu-ray of the group's concert in Manchester when they got back together after nearly 10 years, sprinkled among the young girls in tdhe crowd were several men, many with their wives or girlfriends.

This is pointless -- nothing I write here is going to change your mind, so why even bother? The principal thing is that your line "I do not think too many heterosexual guys enjoy boy bands" simply had no place here, and I think that MikeP's "What the hell ??" reaction to your line pretty much says it all. Stick to music you know something about and if it's something you steer clear of because of your heterosexuality, maybe you should just keep that to yourself.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2014 - 6:15 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

ado:

Yes, the biggest group who go to see boy bands (and buy their music) are teen girls. But as I look at my Blu-ray of the group's concert in Manchester when they got back together after nearly 10 years, sprinkled among the young girls in tdhe crowd were several men, many with their wives or girlfriends.

This is pointless -- nothing I write here is going to change your mind, so why even bother? The principal thing is that your line "I do not think too many heterosexual guys enjoy boy bands" simply had no place here.



Ron

Might point remains, and it is pertinent, and I think it is interesting. Let's be direct, Boy bands are made up of the most attractive guys they can find, sometimes they can actually sing too. So guys that like guys are going to like that, girls too. This is pretty obvious. Your reply about seeing guys with girlfriends at a concert is fine. Yeah, heterosexual men have been to those concerts. Duh!

Ya know, it is really not your business to tell me what points I should nor should not make. If these threads had a precondition of everyone only making points that agree with every other post and never being controversial this would be rarely used, and really boring message board.

Usually we relate quite well, so lets put this behind us.

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2014 - 6:23 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

I just have to make this point:

Re: "Might [and you mean My] point remains, and it is pertinent, and I think it is interesting."

Your point "I do not think too many heterosexual guys enjoy boy bands"? Please. Why in the world did you feel the need to make such a point? Who cares? For you to now, after all this, to insist "[My] point remains, and it is pertinent, and I think it is interesting" truly horrifies me. Why in the world would one want to discuss the sexuality of music lovers? Perhaps you should have started a thread on it, or asked FSM to have one discussion section for heterosexual music lovers and another for homosexual music lovers? Can't you see the lunacy of this???

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2014 - 8:02 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Geez Ron

You are sounding almost hysterical, and perhaps there is some put upon outrage here, I am not really buying the level of shock and awe coming from you. I mean for gosh sake, get the hell over your astonishment that someone does not see this the same way you do already.

Get out of the house and get a drink or something.

Do I really care that you do not care about my point, why hell no, I really do not.

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2014 - 8:16 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

ado: Re: Geez Ron

You are sounding almost hysterical, and perhaps there is some put upon outrage here, I am not really buying the level of shock and awe coming from you. I mean for gosh sake, get the hell over your astonishment that someone does not see this the same way you do already.

Get out of the house and get a drink or something.

Do I really care that you do not care about my point, why hell no, I really do not.


Wow. Once again: What possible relevance does the sexual orientation of fans of boy bands have here? By bringing that into the equation you have singlehandedly turned this into something miles away from what I intended when I was looking for fans of Boyzone, and I must say, as someone who owns almost all their albums (as well as several solo CDs by Ronan Keating) that they evolved into something far more substantial than just a "boy band." They have some gorgeous songs that don't deserve to be relegated to such a category. If you'll allow the above to be your last statement on this, we'll end it right now. And please don't confuse my being shocked by things you wrote to be inflated to hysteria, which it definitely wasn't.

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2014 - 8:43 PM   
 By:   Josh Mitchell   (Member)

I do not think too many heterosexual guys enjoy boy bands.


If one were to take your statement literally, ado, they might be under the impression that someone had previously opined that too many heterosexual guys enjoy boy bands and you were simply disagreeing with them.

Perhaps you meant to type, "I think too many heterosexual guys enjoy boy bands," or more likely, "I do not think very many heterosexual guys enjoy boy bands."

In any case, it was poorly executed and even poorer in tact. Trollish, to say the least.

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2014 - 2:17 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

I never said anything insulting about Barry, or that you were required to be gay to like him. Enjoy your Barry all you like you hetrosexual man.

Will do!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2014 - 2:41 PM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

Boy, everybody's so touchy these days...

In my day, just liking soundtracks automatically meant you were queer.

Back then, I only met one man I knew was straight who loved soundtracks, though he told me about straight friends of his who liked them. This was about 35 years ago.

I'm surprised at so much sexual orientation profiling, just based on music people listen to.

Does this mean that any man who likes the music of Tchaikovsky is presumed to be gay? Or any man who likes the art of Michelangelo or Leonardo Da Vinci is as queer as they were?

(Also, it's been my experience that "heterosexual" men who are eager to make such statements are frequently insecure about their own sexual identities...)

Guys, it's just music.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2014 - 2:54 PM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

Although, frankly, the notion of calling them "boy bands," is, with apologies to my mother, who first said this, a "quaint conceit."

After so much time, they should more likely be referred to as "man bands," or, perhaps more accurately, at this rate, "fogey bands."

Time does pass....

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2014 - 2:55 PM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

Although, frankly, the notion of calling them "boy bands," is, with apologies to my mother, who first said this, a "quaint conceit."

After so much time, they should more likely be referred to as "man bands," or, perhaps more accurately, at this rate, "fogey bands."

Time does pass....

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2014 - 3:57 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Hey John.

Yes, they are man bands many of them.

The point is that sex and sexuality has as much or more to do with the success of pop music than any music talent involved. I mean you can easily find cases of very successful pop artists with little to no talent, but they are extremely attractive, and sex sells more than music.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2014 - 4:17 PM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I'm totally gay, and couldn't care less about boy bands, or any bands, or singers, for that matter.

It's the music I like.

Ah well.

To each his own.

Enjoy.

 
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