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 Posted:   Jul 6, 2014 - 5:45 PM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

The new Transformers movie boasts a proud 18% "fresh" rating on Rotten Tomatoes, I see. I have zero intention of seeing the movie myself, but I did find this entertaining takedown of the movie to let me know what I'm missing; here's a link, in case anyone else is interested:

http://io9.com/transformers-age-of-extinction-the-spoiler-faq-1598579492

 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2014 - 6:19 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

The new Transformers movie boasts a proud 18% "fresh" rating on Rotten Tomatoes, I see. I have zero intention of seeing the movie myself, but I did find this entertaining takedown of the movie to let me know what I'm missing; here's a link, in case anyone else is interested:

http://io9.com/transformers-age-of-extinction-the-spoiler-faq-1598579492


Typical Hollywood nonsensical garbage. I thought the first film was kinda fun though it had it's share of idiocy and bad taste. The effects were impressive. The next two were painful and about as much fun as sitting in a dentists office waiting for a root canal. The forth sounds worse. Never been a Wahlberg fan either.

Edit:

Box office mojo-

Transformers: Age of Extinction easily held on to first place at the box office over a very slow Fourth of July weekend.

Melissa McCarthy's Tammy did fine business in second place, while Deliver Us From Evil and Earth to Echo flopped.

The Top 12 earned a combined $118.5 million this weekend. That's down a massive 47 percent from last year, when Despicable Me 2 and The Lone Ranger opened. In fact, it's the worst Independence Day weekend since 1999 ($116.5 million).

That's a horrible way to kick off the ever-important month of July, and all-but-guarantees that this is going to be one of the lowest-grossing Summer seasons in the past decade.

Maybe ppl are slowly getting over this trash?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2014 - 7:05 AM   
 By:   John McMasters   (Member)

For most of these mega summer flicks, the foreign box office is even more important than the US grosses. In the case of Transformers according to box office mojo:

Total Lifetime Grosses
Domestic: $174,746,000 30.4%
+ Foreign: $400,900,000 69.6%
= Worldwide: $575,646,000

This is the report for Godzilla -- and the film is yet to open in Japan:

Total Lifetime Grosses
Domestic: $197,902,000 40.5%
+ Foreign: $291,000,000 59.5%
= Worldwide: $488,902,000

Both films of course also have additional revenues from product and ad placements, multitudes of toys, Tshirts, etc. It will be interesting to see if there are studio disappointments with regard to foreign box office receipts over the next few weeks.

But there is no question that domestic receipts are way way down:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/summer-box-office-analyst-cuts-716886

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-whats-behind-summers-716853


 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2014 - 7:11 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

@ John McMasters - Good point, the rest of the world are eating this stuff up which will ensure the continuation of this garbage. Hollywood is making films for the world market not the US market. As long as they make money they don't care where it comes from.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2014 - 2:56 PM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

@ John McMasters - Good point, the rest of the world are eating this stuff up which will ensure the continuation of this garbage. Hollywood is making films for the world market not the US market. As long as they make money they don't care where it comes from.

Well... yeah, obviously. Is there some reason they wouldn't or shouldn't? Are they supposed to specifically refuse to release movies in other countries and keep them domestic-only, or what?

 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2014 - 4:21 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

@ John McMasters - Good point, the rest of the world are eating this stuff up which will ensure the continuation of this garbage. Hollywood is making films for the world market not the US market. As long as they make money they don't care where it comes from.

Well... yeah, obviously. Is there some reason they wouldn't or shouldn't? Are they supposed to specifically refuse to release movies in other countries and keep them domestic-only, or what?


Their free to do what they want with their films. But I've said this before. This is one of the reasons for the dumbing down of Hollywood films. They have to keep the stories and characters generic so it appeals to those in other countries.

 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2014 - 4:31 PM   
 By:   Mark R. Y.   (Member)

Bah, I'm not into summer movies. I'm waiting for fall with new films coming from Fincher, Paul Thomas Anderson and, cross my fingers, Malick. big grin

Yes! Knight of Cups will have a U.S. release this year.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2014 - 7:42 PM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

@ John McMasters - Good point, the rest of the world are eating this stuff up which will ensure the continuation of this garbage. Hollywood is making films for the world market not the US market. As long as they make money they don't care where it comes from.

Well... yeah, obviously. Is there some reason they wouldn't or shouldn't? Are they supposed to specifically refuse to release movies in other countries and keep them domestic-only, or what?


Their free to do what they want with their films. But I've said this before. This is one of the reasons for the dumbing down of Hollywood films. They have to keep the stories and characters generic so it appeals to those in other countries.


Yeah, because all those idiotic foreigners are so clearly intellectually inferior to our legions of mental giants.

roll eyes
razz
big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2014 - 7:57 PM   
 By:   John McMasters   (Member)

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 Posted:   Jul 8, 2014 - 12:02 AM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

I have no real comment to make on this - it's all been said already - but wanted to mention that I have found this thread absolutely fascinating.

Oh - and I love "Armageddon".

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2014 - 2:27 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

That new Go-Bots film has now earned 30 odd million MORE!!! in China than the USA!!
Even their taste in Bad Films is now eclipsing the rest of the world!
Who can beat the Chinese?? Cartman was right wink

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2014 - 2:48 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

That new Go-Bots film has now earned 30 odd million MORE!!! in China than the USA!!
Even their taste in Bad Films is now eclipsing the rest of the world!
Who can beat the Chinese?? Cartman was right wink


Go-Bots! lol Nice semi-obscure reference. You sure you're not of Russo-Chinese descent?

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2014 - 5:28 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Now I know how I must sound to you people around here (minus the cool voice, of course):

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2014 - 6:20 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

@ John McMasters - Good point, the rest of the world are eating this stuff up which will ensure the continuation of this garbage. Hollywood is making films for the world market not the US market. As long as they make money they don't care where it comes from.

Well... yeah, obviously. Is there some reason they wouldn't or shouldn't? Are they supposed to specifically refuse to release movies in other countries and keep them domestic-only, or what?


Their free to do what they want with their films. But I've said this before. This is one of the reasons for the dumbing down of Hollywood films. They have to keep the stories and characters generic so it appeals to those in other countries.


Yeah, because all those idiotic foreigners are so clearly intellectually inferior to our legions of mental giants.

roll eyes
razz
big grin


Well it could very well be the dumbing down of the American public as well. wink

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2014 - 6:25 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Now I know how I must sound to you people around here (minus the cool voice, of course):


Agreed. Two things I've noticed over the last 20 years. Actors don't act, they just read their lines. Second, actor's are really like the characters they portray, so their not really acting but being themselves on camera.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2014 - 6:56 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

It is a crappy movie summer. Last year had more and better movies all around.
The family fare is especially paltry this year, and this is hurting them.

I saw the trailer for Guardians of the Galaxy and Dawn of the Planet of the Apes and they left me totally cold.

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2014 - 7:53 AM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

Agreed. Two things I've noticed over the last 20 years. Actors don't act, they just read their lines. Second, actor's are really like the characters they portray, so their not really acting but being themselves on camera.

http://youtu.be/eTbLkYmWZJo

When movie stars come on a project, they often bring along writers to modify the script so their lines are lines that they can deliver well.

And even in cases where that doesn't happen, I think it's not that actors aren't acting, but that people are looking for different things. Younger audiences find the more dramatic acting of the past hokey; they want what they consider more "realistic" and "naturalistic" dialogue and delivery. (Whether there's anything real or natural about it is a different discussion!)

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2014 - 8:01 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Younger audiences find the more dramatic acting of the past hokey; they want what they consider more "realistic" and "naturalistic" dialogue and delivery. (Whether there's anything real or natural about it is a different discussion!)

The irony is all that naturalistic acting comes off just as mannered as, say, a 1930s Bette Davis performance, only it's on the opposite side of the spectrum but essentially the same thing.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2014 - 8:04 AM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

Action films of one sought or another has always been desirable for many of the movie going public. But there is one slant on this issue I find left out and I feel it is when one thinks about it a large part of the film industry. the change of society. If you take a good part of the western world say [sound films as an example] from the 30's till the mid 60's. You have a world where in many ways the youth was limited in what they received or could have from their parents in their leisure time. However gradually since the late 60's in which society did a turnabout, unique in recent history of humankind. There has been a giant change in the wants and the needs the youth want and get by the lax attitude many parents offered to their kids. Just think if a average parent now let's their kid go to movies 5 times more a year then the old days, times that by millions and millions. You see this with birthday presents, Christmas presents, going to sporting events , everywhere. Now add on modern technology the video revolution, internet etc etc. Material things, gadgets galore, for the youth, they want it they get for the most part. I remember in the 80's for every film my family rented out for an adult, we must have rented out GREASE, THE LITTLE MERMAID, ETC ETC, 30 times over the adult oriented film. Well the answer is obvious what market kept the video store open. Of course a book can and might have been written on this but the companies make what the consumer wants, can't blame them.So now the Eastern world is following suit with their youth. You get what the majority wants, most of the time.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2014 - 8:05 AM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

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