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Wow that really is horrible. I would not have been satisfied with a refund and a free ticket after sitting through the two full sets of presumably identical trailers. Repetitive trailers is part of why I got tired of the theater experience.
Last film I saw, think HTTYD 2 had trailers that went on seemingly forever. Probably 20 minutes, but it felt like 30.
it was 15 where i went.Then, to add insult to injury, a screen graphic says "To see more trailers go to AMc. com".
why not just skip the trailers and send us to the web site , guys?
brm
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Aug 6, 2014 - 1:15 PM
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Ado
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When i heard a morning DJ this morning say that this was one of the best movies he has seen his entire life I was totally incredulous. And this DJ is like in his 40's.
That was just a pathetic statement. And it occurred to me that we have a populace almost entirely raised on superhero movies and nothing more.
Well lets see. I hear there's an emotional scene in the beginning just to artificially tug at the audiences heart strings, then we are whisked away into the action. The villains are weak and uninteresting. (A film is only as good as your villain) Now I read the most important emotional moments are provided with songs, so the singer can tell me how I am supposed to feel. So glad I'm staying away from this.
I think the gist of it is that our whole idea of 'good movie" is not anywhere near what it was even 5 years ago, and the farther you go back the more different "good movie" is now compared to then.
We are at the place for popular movies where they hit certain beats, really it is only two elements, comedic bits and action beats, and the plot or characters are like sprinkles on a donut, they are superfluous. Every Marvel picture has the same architecture, the same large action finish now. So I hear people say they love movies like this, but they cannot really recall it, or say anything very interesting about it, it usually comes down to something about the effects or action beats.
This article about post plot movies in the times is pretty interesting.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/moviesnow/la-et-mn-guardians-galaxy-movie-theaters-box-office-20140804-story.html#page=1
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Aug 6, 2014 - 1:45 PM
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When i heard a morning DJ this morning say that this was one of the best movies he has seen his entire life I was totally incredulous. And this DJ is like in his 40's.
That was just a pathetic statement. And it occurred to me that we have a populace almost entirely raised on superhero movies and nothing more.
Well lets see. I hear there's an emotional scene in the beginning just to artificially tug at the audiences heart strings, then we are whisked away into the action. The villains are weak and uninteresting. (A film is only as good as your villain) Now I read the most important emotional moments are provided with songs, so the singer can tell me how I am supposed to feel. So glad I'm staying away from this.
I think the gist of it is that our whole idea of 'good movie" is not anywhere near what it was even 5 years ago, and the farther you go back the more different "good movie" is now compared to then.
We are at the place for popular movies where they hit certain beats, really it is only two elements, comedic bits and action beats, and the plot or characters are like sprinkles on a donut, they are superfluous. Every Marvel picture has the same architecture, the same large action finish now. So I hear people say they love movies like this, but they cannot really recall it, or say anything very interesting about it, it usually comes down to something about the effects or action beats.
This article about post plot movies in the times is pretty interesting.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/moviesnow/la-et-mn-guardians-galaxy-movie-theaters-box-office-20140804-story.html#page=1
You hit the nail on the head! I can appreciate dump popcorn movies as much as the next person. I can appreciate some Roger Corman films for what they deliver. But when it comes to 200 million dollar budgets I expect an interesting story and characterization. A good balance between character building scenes, humor and action. Visuals that are stunning, not mindless video game graphics. I want to leave the theater in awe, not thinking what I am going to have for dinner.
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Aug 6, 2014 - 4:32 PM
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Joe E.
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When i heard a morning DJ this morning say that this was one of the best movies he has seen his entire life I was totally incredulous. And this DJ is like in his 40's.
That was just a pathetic statement. And it occurred to me that we have a populace almost entirely raised on superhero movies and nothing more.
Well lets see. I hear there's an emotional scene in the beginning just to artificially tug at the audiences heart strings, then we are whisked away into the action. The villains are weak and uninteresting. (A film is only as good as your villain) Now I read the most important emotional moments are provided with songs, so the singer can tell me how I am supposed to feel. So glad I'm staying away from this.
I think the gist of it is that our whole idea of 'good movie" is not anywhere near what it was even 5 years ago, and the farther you go back the more different "good movie" is now compared to then.
We are at the place for popular movies where they hit certain beats, really it is only two elements, comedic bits and action beats, and the plot or characters are like sprinkles on a donut, they are superfluous. Every Marvel picture has the same architecture, the same large action finish now. So I hear people say they love movies like this, but they cannot really recall it, or say anything very interesting about it, it usually comes down to something about the effects or action beats.
This article about post plot movies in the times is pretty interesting.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/moviesnow/la-et-mn-guardians-galaxy-movie-theaters-box-office-20140804-story.html#page=1
You hit the nail on the head! I can appreciate dump popcorn movies as much as the next person. I can appreciate some Roger Corman films for what they deliver. But when it comes to 200 million dollar budgets I expect an interesting story and characterization. A good balance between character building scenes, humor and action. Visuals that are stunning, not mindless video game graphics. I want to leave the theater in awe, not thinking what I am going to have for dinner.
Oh, definitely, though I don't think it really applies here - Guardians of the Galaxy certainly has plot and story and plenty of them, that linked article notwithstanding, but even more so it has characterization. This movie is very much about character - more than most other movies, I'd say, and certainly much more than most other movies in anything close to the same genre(s) as this one.
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Aug 6, 2014 - 5:51 PM
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When i heard a morning DJ this morning say that this was one of the best movies he has seen his entire life I was totally incredulous. And this DJ is like in his 40's.
That was just a pathetic statement. And it occurred to me that we have a populace almost entirely raised on superhero movies and nothing more.
Or, you know, people can enjoy movies based upon their actual merits once seen and heard, rather than the catcalls from the lowly internet brethren of the blind. Listen guys, get laid or go see the movie. One or the other is guaranteed to provide you with the thrill which you seek. As a fan of this movie, who truly connected with the emotional gravitas and characters because I felt like I was amongst them in good company, it's really depressing to see the same compatriots of this board hark back and forth to each other. You all simply gloat about malaise and frustration with something which you haven't even seen and at this point seem content to just poke like trolls along the sidelines.
And that's why I went ahead and titled this thread like I did. You are the fussers. And you suck the joy out of everything.
This article about post plot movies in the times is pretty interesting.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/moviesnow/la-et-mn-guardians-galaxy-movie-theaters-box-office-20140804-story.html#page=1[
This is a fun article to read once you've seen the film. As the author incites his enthusiasm for the film, though you'd have to read it outside of the headline to understand. So here's my challenge to those like solium, Ado, and Sirusjr: Detail the plots of both Star Wars and Raiders of the Lost Ark for me. Detail the plot of The Maltese Falcon. Let's discuss these, because the author of this article wants you to. Mr. Zeitchik seems compelled to want to ask these questions of nearly all of our favorite blockbusters and MacGuffin-driven stories.
The author discusses his frustrations that the film didn't have a clear nor compelling plot though I would argue that compelling is certainly a matter of taste and that clear perhaps a matter of his viewing conditions. Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy does have a clear through-line; the action sequences even compliment where the plot is going, or where it needs to get to; the villain is a despot very much in the tradition of Darth Vader yet we don't criticize Lucas' underwritten Vader which is apparent in his first Star Wars; all of this is definite within the film and the author does discuss it at length. The LA Times headline is an easy grab for those less inclined to read and consider exactly what the author is talking about, and I can't help but feel that's what you were reaching for.
As Mr. Zeitchik puts it with absolute positivity in his piece: "... Enjoyable is enjoyable, no matter the reasons."
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Personally I really enjoyed this one. I went into it hoping for some plain fun, some quality humor, and a few artistic flourishes, and that really is just what's delivered. As others have mentioned, the villain is a weak point and the plot ultimately doesn't materialize into anything more interesting than your basic galaxy-destroying MacGuffin, but those points are more than counterbalanced by the fine performances and fun dynamics of the Guardians themselves. Did I mention this movie was fun? Because it is.
I'm glad they're making a sequel because this may just be my favorite Marvel production so far.
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Aug 7, 2014 - 8:57 PM
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To solium: I do appreciate yours and others responses and ultimately I am looking to inspire you to take the bait and see this flick, not to demean you. I respect all of my fellow film score fans, and I always enjoy the banter even when we get snide. Take it all in stride.
Star Wars: A young farmers boy joins a rebellion, and with the help of a band of misfits grows into a young man as he helps save a princess from a ruthless empire that wants to control the universe.
Now, thank you also for this. This is roughly a very broad outline of the events which occur in Star Wars, but ultimately you nail it on the head. Now let me try with Guardians of the Galaxy...
GotG: A young boy living on Earth is unexpectedly called up into the cosmos where he grows into a brash pirate and with the help of a band of misfits learns the value of family when they are called upon to help save a planet from a ruthless alien tyrant who wants ultimate power.
Pretty simple huh? But it's how the whole package was presented that made it so good.
Indeed, Star Wars is one of the most handsome packages which cinema has ever been delivered. And thusly it has spawned an entire culture and endured for so many years.
But GotG is also simple. And it also comes in a handsome package which could possibly endure for much longer than a huge weekend's box office receipts. And, in my radius, it most likely will. Star Wars is the Joseph Campbell archetype and myth-building applied to the world of a galaxy far beyond ours. Well, GotG is about the kid who grew up watching Star Wars or The Last Starfighter getting that opportunity to be whisked away to that galaxy even farther away.
And I always recommend anyone to get laid, all the damn time. Nothing beats that! 
Now, who is interested in talking about the plot of Raiders of the Lost Ark with me?
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