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 Posted:   Mar 14, 2012 - 1:43 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

I wouldn't say it was purely from that standpoint but the way that they portrayed the humans in the ship as just mass consumption machines passing out tons of trash. I don't think I would have found the film to be particularly environmentalist in its message if it was to stick to the realm of the Wall-E we see on Earth for the first section of the film. The people presented in the film were primarily mindlessly lining up to enjoy food and easy lives. I found it slightly offensive that few human characters in the film showed any intelligence or ability for rational thought. Of course like Mastage I haven't seen the film since I watched it in theaters so I may be wrong on some of these points.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2012 - 8:38 PM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

Well, I've come to the conclusion that I love JOHN CARTER the movie, and definitely plan to see it again. Though I think I'd recommend it more in 2-D than 3. Saw it in 3-D the first time, and that was OK, but I don't like the way the 3-D glasses make the film darker. When I take them off, the whole picture seems so much brighter.

This movie has grown on me. (Of course, I've been playing the soundtrack CD in the car today....)

But it really has more development to the characters, as well as deepening the story of the original book. The book is good, but the movie, as the gentleman says above, is good as a movie.

Looking back, what really impresses me is the development of the hero, from a surly bastard in the beginning, who has reasons to be, but who meets someone who begins to really get to him, until, little by little, he finally opens up to her.

This movie is an old-fashioned adventure/romance/spectacle, with all sorts of elements thrown in together and I think it works.

What I think never worked is the way the Disney people bumbled in marketing it. JOHN CARTER sounds like the title of some spy movie, or hired assassin. It doesn't even hint at the elements that make this film so entertaining.

It all reminds me of KINGDOM OF HEAVEN, which also seemed grand and thrilling when I first saw it, though choppy at many points.

I'm definitely seeing JOHN CARTER again, and I'm definitely recommending it to anyone who'll listen.

And I'm so glad to have the opportunity to see it in a theatre, where I can revel in its very size.

Enjoy!

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2012 - 1:40 AM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

Well, I've come to the conclusion that I love JOHN CARTER the movie, and definitely plan to see it again. Though I think I'd recommend it more in 2-D than 3. Saw it in 3-D the first time, and that was OK, but I don't like the way the 3-D glasses make the film darker. When I take them off, the whole picture seems so much brighter.

This movie has grown on me. (Of course, I've been playing the soundtrack CD in the car today....)

But it really has more development to the characters, as well as deepening the story of the original book. The book is good, but the movie, as the gentleman says above, is good as a movie.

Looking back, what really impresses me is the development of the hero, from a surly bastard in the beginning, who has reasons to be, but who meets someone who begins to really get to him, until, little by little, he finally opens up to her.

This movie is an old-fashioned adventure/romance/spectacle, with all sorts of elements thrown in together and I think it works.

What I think never worked is the way the Disney people bumbled in marketing it. JOHN CARTER sounds like the title of some spy movie, or hired assassin. It doesn't even hint at the elements that make this film so entertaining.

It all reminds me of KINGDOM OF HEAVEN, which also seemed grand and thrilling when I first saw it, though choppy at many points.

I'm definitely seeing JOHN CARTER again, and I'm definitely recommending it to anyone who'll listen.

And I'm so glad to have the opportunity to see it in a theatre, where I can revel in its very size.

Enjoy!



I'm seeing this tomorrow in 3D format. I have a feeling this film will find itself as a cult classic if doesn't do well locally. But the film is likely to reap enough at the foreign market and that would probably classify some reason to do a sequel. I hope they do.

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2012 - 5:05 AM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

I saw this and had to post it!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2012 - 7:27 AM   
 By:   IloveJerry   (Member)

This movie is fantastic! I loved everything about it- the story, the action, the music. Its not a kiddie film, its a real action adventure. I cant think of anything like it. Its great!

Anyone reading this has to see this movie. I just saw it yesterday and plan on driving a 100 miles to see it in IMAX. Its that good.

 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2012 - 12:36 PM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

This movie is fantastic! I loved everything about it- the story, the action, the music. Its not a kiddie film, its a real action adventure. I cant think of anything like it. Its great!

Anyone reading this has to see this movie. I just saw it yesterday and plan on driving a 100 miles to see it in IMAX. Its that good.



JOHN CARTER (of Mars) rocks!! Everybody go see it. Its loads of fun and the SFX are just breadth taking. Although 3D aint that great. Forget the flak you are reading about it. This one is just great escapist fun. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!

 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2012 - 5:33 PM   
 By:   Charles Thaxton   (Member)

Saw it again today...it was even better the second time and the finale image even made me tear up a bit this time. First class movie all the way.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2012 - 7:20 PM   
 By:   vinylscrubber   (Member)

Amen to that, and good night to all.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2012 - 6:52 AM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

I loved it. I'm going back.

I even splurged and bought a t-shirt from it off e-bay.

(As well as an -autographed- photo of Taylor Kitsch in costume!)

Nothing like having a new hero.

We need heroes.....

Movie is Highly Recommended...

(And, I've been playing the score all the time in my truck.)

 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2012 - 8:17 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

the general obnoxiousness of WALL·E

I will never understand the hate WALL-E is getting, particularly when there's garbage like TRANSFORMERS or PIRANHA out there. You may not agree with some of the things it's about, but how is it obnoxious compared to the two I just mentioned?

Haven't seen JOHN CARTER yet, but I'd still rather watch Andrew Stanton fail than, say, Michael Bay succeed.


For me its the fact there was no story. No character development. No likeable characters. (other than Wall-E) Crushing his bug friend and not actually killing him. The obnoxious live action bits that were down right cringe worthy. I thought the first 20 minutes was brilliant. It was all down hill from there. Regarding its messages about the lazy human population and the environment ppl need to grow some thicker skin. What was so offensive? If anything I thought the messages were poorly presented. Its a bad film and would have been trashed if it wasn't a Pixar production.

 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2012 - 9:57 AM   
 By:   Hermit   (Member)

Seeing this film several times inspired me to go back and re-read the first three John Carter books (which I haven't read in over 30 years and had forgotten more than I remembered). Many elements from A Princess Of Mars were rearranged, deleted or added but it still made for a very good swashbuckling fantasy adventure film in the spirit of the Burrough's novel.

I really hope they follow it up with The Gods Of Mars movie because that was my favorite book of the trilogy and I'm very interested in how Andrew Stanton envisions that as a film.

By the third book, Warlord of Mars, John Carter becomes more a caricature of himself in a cheesy, "Flash Gordon" type way. But even that one would make for a decent film if treated properly (i.e. rewritten and revised - and Stanton clearly has no qualms about altering the source material).

So everybody, go see John Carter for the epic romantic sci-fi fantasy adventure that it is because I want more John Carter movies!

 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2012 - 10:01 AM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

So everybody, go see John Carter for the epic romantic sci-fi fantasy adventure that it is because I want more John Carter movies!

Unfortunately, sales dropped 60% on its second Friday so it is looking likely that it will indeed be a huge flop.

 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2012 - 2:27 PM   
 By:   Giacchino-fan   (Member)

I just went to see it again.

 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2012 - 2:43 PM   
 By:   Charles Thaxton   (Member)

So everybody, go see John Carter for the epic romantic sci-fi fantasy adventure that it is because I want more John Carter movies!

Unfortunately, sales dropped 60% on its second Friday so it is looking likely that it will indeed be a huge flop.


it's doing well overseas....where people apparently have more good taste for the classics.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2012 - 8:50 PM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

For me its the fact there was no story. No character development. No likeable characters. (other than Wall-E) Crushing his bug friend and not actually killing him. The obnoxious live action bits that were down right cringe worthy. I thought the first 20 minutes was brilliant. It was all down hill from there. Regarding its messages about the lazy human population and the environment ppl need to grow some thicker skin. What was so offensive? If anything I thought the messages were poorly presented. Its a bad film and would have been trashed if it wasn't a Pixar production.

Well... wow. I see plenty of story, character development and likeable characters in WALL*E, and frankly I'm kind of astonished you don't. I don't begrudge you your opinion - everybody's entitled to their opinions - but I really can't even fathom your having this one.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2012 - 10:27 PM   
 By:   Scott Atkins   (Member)

Wow. For the most part you guys really liked this movie. I thought John Carter was a really bad film. I had a friend visiting from out of town and we went to see the film on opening night. If I had gone alone, I would have walked out about 30 minutes in. The films worst sin is that it is boring. I haven’t looked at my watch so often during a movie since Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull. I found all the characters flat and uninteresting. I felt I had seen all the CGI before. The arena scene plays like outtakes from Attack of the Clones. I never felt any of the characters were ever in any real jeopardy. The whole bookend thing with Edgar Rice Burroughs doesn’t work. This is a long movie too. At one point I took off my 3-D glasses and shut my eyes for a few minutes only to be jarred awake by some explosion. Maybe my problem is the source material. I’ve never been much of a Tarzan fan either. I know I’m talking apples and oranges but I took my friend a few days later to see The Artist. As we walked out of the screening he looked at me and said “Now that was a movie!!” Amen brother!

 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2012 - 11:08 PM   
 By:   Hermit   (Member)

I know I’m talking apples and oranges but I took my friend a few days later to see The Artist. As we walked out of the screening he looked at me and said “Now that was a movie!!” Amen brother!

Now THAT's Funny! Everything you wrote about "John Carter" is exactly how I felt about "The Artist." Cliched, bore-me-to-tears story, shallow uninteresting characters, and a running time that far exceeded my interest in watching it (and I actually did begin to nod off about two-thirds of the way through it). How it's been garnering awards is an unfathomable mystery to me. But then, making movies about making movies has generally seemed a lame and unappealing plot device (IMHO of course).

But I DID like the dog.

Which, ironically, is what some people have said about "John Carter." wink


Moral of the story: There's something out there for all of us.

 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2012 - 12:26 AM   
 By:   The REAL BJBien   (Member)

Did anyone NOT like the dog?

 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2012 - 1:35 AM   
 By:   pzfan   (Member)

Did anyone NOT like the dog?

Me. Too much Disney.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2012 - 10:16 PM   
 By:   Bob Bryden   (Member)

Almost didn't go due to some middling reviews. Really glad I did. Wonderful, Old-school swashbuckler. I'd have to take exception to the poster who said scenes didn't breath. I was quite surprised at how much time was taken for dialogue, exposition, character and romance. There are long stretches with John Carter and the princess, a romance quite fleshed out and lots of cool inter-action among all the characters. The lines WERE good and I laughed out loud more than twice! There was also some funny, novel, Jackie Chan-like choreography to the fights. It puzzles me when a piece like this comes along which, while derivative like all hero-things are these days, has some imagination at work behind it and only yields a medium response from audiences while something as inanely derivative as 'Avatar' ('Dances with Aliens') conquers the world. There's no accounting for distaste. My only complaint was that I felt the 3-D kinda sucked and fell flat. Giacchino's score was also good - has anybody else noticed that the guy can REALLY cut the mustard with his action writing (almost on par with Williams) but seems to lack the ability to write inspired main themes? (Very sub par to Williams).

 
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