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Apr 18, 2013 - 8:56 AM
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Ado
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I must be one of the very few that was never bored while watching this film. (That's not to say I didn't cringe at a few things, or that some aspects of the production could have been better.) But I was enthralled from the opening of Ilia's theme to the conclusion of the end credits. Sadly it was the death of science fiction film making.
Sadly it was the death of science fiction film making--
This is an interesting statement. Can you expand on that idea?
There were a lot of thoughtful and interesting Science Fiction films in the past which explored a lot of ideas about humanity and science innovation. Forbidden Planet, 2001, Silent Running, Star Trek TMP.
The biggest complaints about Star Trek the Motion picture were that it was too slow, didn't have enough action, and lacked a villain in the traditional sense. From that point forward almost all Sc Fi films are "war " stories or "personal revenge" stories. Science fiction used to be awe inspiring, now its just action adventure.
Wow, pretty excellent idea, I agree here, and appreciate your help on the 'less is more" remark too. Yes, When I think about it Sci-Fi other than Star Trek has become alien attacks and humans fight back and we have seen it over and over again. Alien might have been the turning point in that direction. It is interesting that 1979 brought us these two films ST TMP and Alien. The first had a wonderment and exploration and hopeful romantic view of space, whereas the second told us that space is full of horror and death and torment.
I was thinking that the J.J. Abrams films have unfortunately taken the combat/action way for Star Trek and I still watch them, but they are action pictures now and they do not have the heart or philosophy or wonder that they once did.
Filmmakers cannot speak the language of awe,wonder or the natural romance of space it seems. Perhaps there are a few exceptions like Solaris remake a few years ago, someone else can bring up a couple more? Well Hyams made 2010 which was a commercial failure, they remade The Day the Earth stood still, that was a failure. So yes, I think we have a case that non-combat sci-fi is a no-go and when it is attempted now it is pretty much a failure commercially. So if a 2001 or a Star Trek TMP were tried now, it would never get past the script stage.
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Apr 18, 2013 - 9:26 AM
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Solium
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Filmmakers cannot speak the language of awe,wonder or the natural romance of space it seems. Perhaps there are a few exceptions like Solaris remake a few years ago, someone else can bring up a couple more? Well Hyams made 2010 which was a commercial failure, they remade The Day the Earth stood still, that was a failure. So yes, I think we have a case that non-combat sci-fi is a no-go and when it is attempted now it is pretty much a failure commercially. So if a 2001 or a Star Trek TMP were tried now, it would never get past the script stage.
Forgot to mention 2010. A film I enjoy a lot and another good example. You are correct those previous films would never get past the script stage today. Its also interesting you bring up the polar opposites of TMP and Alien. Two excellent films that had two very different things to say. Both are good. Whats not good is the ditto head mentality in Hollywood today. There is no originality at all. Music, trailers, movie posters, everything is a clone of one another.
Edit: Regarding the expression of awe, wonder and natural romance- sadly audiences don't care for such things all that much. So film makers don't go there anymore. Another good example would be the fly by of the Enterprise in TMP. For some of us it was awe inspiring, for many others a snore fest.
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