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 Posted:   Nov 23, 2016 - 11:20 AM   
 By:   Metryq   (Member)

Y'know the problem there? .... training them to use the tray in the first place!

I've never had any cats that were strictly outdoors. My experience is that cats come fully programmed right out of the box. When my parents brought Wriggley and Bartlett home, they hadn't explored the living room more than five minutes, when Wriggley climbed into the pot of a rubber tree plant and fertilized it. He had no trouble finding the appointed litterbox later on.

Bartlett got his name after a string of cats named after reference books in the house. Very quiet and dignified. You'd never know Wriggley came from the same litter; we think he got left behind when the survey shuttle returned to the mother ship. Wriggley was incredibly polydactyl (he could count to 28). He got his name because he sounded like he had gum on his feet, click-click-clicking across hard floors and picking on carpets.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2016 - 11:56 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

And I'm confused by Tall Guy suggesting putting a litter box next to a food dish.... Noone in their right mind would do [that]

You're confused because you didn't read my post properly smile. There's a world of difference between "near" and "next to". And I query whether crouching outside to do our business would really obviate the need for toilet paper. I will however bow (but not squat) to your experience in that regard!


LOL, a WORLD of difference between "near" and "next to"? Really? How big is this WORLD you speak of? Regardless, why, gawd, why would you even put it "near" the food dish???

As to my latter comment, I guess you've never gone camping.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2016 - 11:58 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Most people enjoy indoor plumbing, and I dont think it's a crime to cat dignity to offer them that option for the many practical reasons I've given.
If we all crapped outdoors there would be major sanitary problems, but on the positive side the crouching posture usually obviates the need for toilet paper, saving trees.


You offer your cats indoor plumbing? Is there a cocktail cabinet next to the bidet?


You said yourself your cat used the sink. But obviously I was making an analogy between human toilet and litter box so your joke is pretty tangential.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2016 - 12:07 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I'd rather every human being was replaced by a cat!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2016 - 1:15 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

And I'm confused by Tall Guy suggesting putting a litter box next to a food dish.... Noone in their right mind would do [that]

You're confused because you didn't read my post properly smile. There's a world of difference between "near" and "next to". And I query whether crouching outside to do our business would really obviate the need for toilet paper. I will however bow (but not squat) to your experience in that regard!


LOL, a WORLD of difference between "near" and "next to"? Really? How big is this WORLD you speak of? Regardless, why, gawd, why would you even put it "near" the food dish???

As to my latter comment, I guess you've never gone camping.


Regarding the litter tray, we're not the royal family - space is limited. There are only so many places for the cat's stuff without either the food or the poop being in the living room!

As for camping, god no! You ever try being comfortable in any kind of bed that's at least 18 inches too short?

 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2016 - 1:20 PM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

I'd rather every human being was replaced by a cat!



Ha! I've been waiting to be attacked as a hopeless misanthrope -- which I am -- and my retort would be, I'm in good company -- Mark Twain.

And that reminds me of that old guy Peter Ustinov played in Logan's Run. He sure had a lot of cats.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2016 - 1:46 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

And that reminds me of that old guy Peter Ustinov played in Logan's Run. He sure had a lot of cats.

Perhaps he was suppose to suggest Twain, as the scene suggests a pun of the cliche of "fat cat" bureaucrats since Ustinov and cats lived in the US Senate Chamber.

 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2016 - 1:49 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

And that reminds me of that old guy Peter Ustinov played in Logan's Run. He sure had a lot of cats.

Perhaps he was suppose to suggest Twain, as the scene suggests a pun of the cliche of "fat cat" bureaucrats since Ustinov and cats lived in the US Senate Chamber.


iirc he was reciting T>S> Eliot's cat poem

 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2016 - 5:05 AM   
 By:   Metryq   (Member)

Perhaps he was suppose to suggest Twain, as the scene suggests a pun of the cliche of "fat cat" bureaucrats since Ustinov and cats lived in the US Senate Chamber.

I'd call that a reach. "Old Man" (Ballard in the book) never said a word about fat cats, nor was there anything to invoke Twain. The book was not really political, although it had a social point to make. The movie, like most such adaptations, watered down the story to a simple "small guy overthrows the oppressive authority single-handed."

It would have been more appropriate to have Old Man hanging out in the Library of Congress. If anything, the Senate was chosen to underscore the contrast between the dream of the Founding Fathers and the world of the 23rd century—the opposite of satire. (Old Man made the sketchiest allusion to the Gettysburg Address.)

The movie never explains the nature of the cataclysm, and we can only guess whether or not it was world-wide. If it had been a nuclear holocaust, then most likely D.C. would not exist. The domed city was a microcosm of the situation in the book, where the entire world was overpopulated and resources limited.

So if anyone in the movie could be termed "fat cats," it would be all the pretty people living in the domed city.

And as Mr. Marshall noted, Old Man was quoting from Old Possum's Book of Practical Cats by T.S. Eliot.

 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2016 - 8:23 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)


Bartlett got his name after a string of cats named after reference books in the house. Very quiet and dignified. You'd never know Wriggley came from the same litter.


i thought you were gonna say Bartlett started digging tunnels in the garden, putting the goons to sleep and getting 76 cats in the street to escape!!! wink

 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2016 - 8:28 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

i thought you were gonna say Bartlett started digging tunnels in the garden, putting the goons to sleep and getting 76 cats in the street to escape!!! wink

Ho, ho, ho. Keep diggin' with yer paws and fer heaven sake, possum, no miaowing. smile

 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2016 - 8:32 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Or flicking dirt in the litter tray?

"Im sorry zat ze soil ist not more to your liking, Herr Oberst!"

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2016 - 2:41 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Ha! I've been waiting to be attacked as a hopeless misanthrope -- which I am.

That's no surprise, but you might be attacked for being un-American. Doesn't the song go "America, America, dog shed his fur for thee..."

 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2016 - 8:27 PM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)


One of the reasons having a kid has never appealed to me.



The world's loss.


This gave me a chuckle Tall Guy.

We have three cats, two indoor and one who refuses to stay inside unless it is extremely cold or wet outside. The Calico is human-like and watches certain TV channels as if she understood the content. The Maine Coon weighs 25 lbs. and has a meow like a two week only kitten. The Russian Blue is the biggest love machine in the world and sleeps in positions that would make a contortionist envious. Yes, litter boxes are gross but they are part of the deal of having indoor cats. Having lost two beloved cats to a coyote eight years ago, we learned a harsh and painful lesson about letting our cats outside. We have tried desperately to keep the Russian in but he became neurotic when we did. Now we compromise by letting him out only during the day and he willingly comes in before dark each day. Well, gotta go ask each of them for their Christmas list.

 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2016 - 9:21 PM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

Ha! I've been waiting to be attacked as a hopeless misanthrope -- which I am.

That's no surprise, but you might be attacked for being un-American.


I am un-American in many ways -- most because I'm disappointed the country is not better.

Anyway, I spent the second half of Thankgiving day over at my father's, hanging out with his two cats, which are friendly cats that like being petted and scratched behind the ears.

But I'm glad they're his pets. Let him feed them, pay the vet bills, and clean the litterbox. I'll just enjoy petting them.

 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2016 - 2:24 AM   
 By:   Metryq   (Member)

But I'm glad they're his pets. Let him feed them, pay the vet bills, and clean the litterbox. I'll just enjoy petting them.

That sounds like the people who say they like kids, so long as they're someone else's.

My dad was a high school English teacher. And while the students loved him, they hated a reprimand from him more than one from the principal. He'd start by telling them not to be nervous, "I have the heart of a little boy. I keep it in a jar in my desk!"

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2016 - 4:11 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

My dad was a high school English teacher. And while the students loved him, they hated a reprimand from him more than one from the principal. He'd start by telling them not to be nervous, "I have the heart of a little boy. I keep it in a jar in my desk!"

Your dad was Robert Bloch?

 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2016 - 7:30 PM   
 By:   Metryq   (Member)

Your dad was Robert Bloch?

He was an avid sci-fi fan—actually taught a special literature course using sci-fi stories. He had lots of Bloch on the shelf, so I wouldn't be surprised if he lifted that line and filed the serial numbers off.

 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2016 - 8:24 PM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

Have you ever said "What's new, pussycat?" to a pussycat? I have.

 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2016 - 12:40 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

No but ive sung it to one.

 
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