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I'm quite certain that Superman, as Clark Kent, was raised to respect life.
Well, not really. This is the guy who, as a kid, saved lives, only to be told by his dad that he maybe shouldn't have. The guy who followed his dad's directions not to save him when there was no good reason not to save him. Now if the movie had followed that up with a never again moment or something that would have been . . . something. (Or did it? I don't remember. . .)
I was referencing "Superman" as a comic book character - as well as the movie serials, TV show and other movies made about him....not as a revisionist character in this badly written movie.
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Watched this for the FIFTH time last night.It just gets better and better.Speaking as someone who grew up watching the Reeve films, i think Man Of Steel is vastly superior and the best Superman movie ever made by far.
I love the Donner original but it is very dated now and Man Of Steel is a bold new vision for the character.I dont understand how anyone can think this movie is bleak.Superman saves the world and in the final scene as he completes his journey and becomes mild mannered reporter Clark Kent and Hans Zimmers glorious theme kicks in...its inspiring!
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Watched this for the FIFTH time last night.It just gets better and better.Speaking as someone who grew up watching the Reeve films, i think Man Of Steel is vastly superior and the best Superman movie ever made by far.
I love the Donner original but it is very dated now and Man Of Steel is a bold new vision for the character.I dont understand how anyone can think this movie is bleak.Superman saves the world and in the final scene as he completes his journey and becomes mild mannered reporter Clark Kent and Hans Zimmers glorious theme kicks in...its inspiring!
Absolutely agree. I love the Donner original - it will always have a special place in my heart. But having watched MAN OF STEEL again now, I absolutely loved everything about it. And the score definitely has some beautiful haunting themes.
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I'll confess: I begrudgingly gave this film a second chance and found it much better the second time around. Not perfect by any means, but, again, a lot better.
Dan
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Absolutely agree. I love the Donner original - it will always have a special place in my heart . . .
There's my cue! Good news for NY-area Williams fans . . .
http://www.bowtiecinemas.com/special-programs/?program=movies-mimosas&location=mm
"Superman" is coming back to the big screen in New York for two nights only, 02/08 & 02/09!
I requested my favorite movie at the theater's website a couple of months ago, and . . . "voila!"
A rare chance to see it projected in state-of-the-art digital and surround sound, and to see how it works its magic on a modern audience. Just how "dated" is it? Come find out! See you there!
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Re: Absolutely agree. I love the Donner original - it will always have a special place in my heart . . .
There's my cue! Good news for NY-area Williams fans . . .
http://www.bowtiecinemas.com/special-programs/?program=movies-mimosas&location=mm
"Superman" is coming back to the big screen in New York for two nights only, 02/08 & 02/09!
I requested my favorite movie at the theater's website a couple of months ago, and . . . "voila!"
A rare chance to see it projected in state-of-the-art digital and surround sound, and to see how it works its magic on a modern audience. Just how "dated" is it? Come find out! See you there!
Damn I'd love to be there. Can still remember clearly seeing this on the opening weekend in a packed theater and being wowed at the opening titles sequence and loving the rest of the movie.
Dated? NO. It remains a sweet and very entertaining movie. I guess to today's audience where all the heroes have to be dark and gritty it might feel dated. But, where's the sense of wonder?
Superman The Movie has heart and soul, something Man Of Steel lacks.
And no Michael Shannon mugging. There's yer money right there !
That's why I bought the Donner/Reeve original on Blu-ray and play it in multi-channel surround, heavy on the subwoofer! But a huge widescreen, which I have, does NOT come close to seeing it in a big theatre!!!
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I think what I look forward to most is experiencing it vicariously, through the audience reaction. Audiences don't miss a trick, and whatever little clever nuance present in the script or the performances goes over big in a theatrical screening. I'll try to remember what all the unexpected laughs are, for the next time I watch by myself.
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'For me , no film was a greater disappointment this year than MAN OF STEEL -- the trailer was promising , a lot of potentially great performances, a charismatic lead, state of the art CGI -- but it failed in so many ways - many already mentioned - but at its core, it did not engage me emotionally!'
YEP I agree with that statement! I'm sticking to the Reeve - Donner/Lester/Furie collaboration forever
- A Special Place In My Heart also & with dialogue like 'Come here Superman & kneel before Zod!' - Phewrar no contest!
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The biggest piece of shit I've seen all summer - Man of Steel. It excels in dissapointment.
I did like two of the score cues. That's it. I never want to see a frame of that film ever again. I look forward to not seeing the next one.
Can you believe it - The Mutant has it right and Tall Guy has it completely wrong?
brm
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Thanks for that, War.
ITG
Well, I've seen it now. And really liked it.
TG
You read it here folks.
Tall Guy liked what is quite possibly the worst film ever made!
brm
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Tall Guy,
Awwooo-a-waaaah,
But ummm. I have to ask if you were thrilled to see the most brilliant scientific mind of Krypton take to the skies on his fantastical beastly steed for an action chase sequence, speeding in & out of terrain at impossible speeds...(grin)
Makes you appreciate the real thing _ Avatar - DONT IT?
iF AVATAR is the apotheosis of sc-fi , cgi spectacle, MOS is the nadir.
bruce
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It's a Zack Snyder film. That's all that needs to be said. 
Zack "the hack" Snyder.
'nuff said!
brm
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If only the guy who directed the fantastic trailer, directed the film itself.......
sigh...................
bruce
ps ok there were two good things:
the MOS theme by Zimmer
Kevin Costner
dats it
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I've said it before and I say it again: somebody needs to rescue Superman from Warner Brothers.
For that matter, somebody needs to rescue D.C. Comics from Warner Brothers.
Warner Brothers has done nothing but screw up the superheroes. The characters wallow in political correctness and psychotic feminism. The films are miserably depressing, with intense guilt, torment, and suffering compounded by sadistic and prolonged violence compounded by endless cataclysm and monumental destruction. Everything is so over the top that credulity is shattered. The films are all noise and murky, dim, translucent, artificial cgi.
As I've said before in a previous thread on SUPERMAN RETURNS, from a metaphorical perspective, Superman flies because he is above mortal foibles. Clark Kent and Lois Lane should not be lovers; it is important that children in the audience see them get along as friends and as colleagues. They must remain morally centered and virtuous in their doings. Their relationship must remain platonic or they are not Clark Kent and Lois Lane. He is not there to support her journalism career in between occasional rescues. The stories don't have to be so personal. The violence doesn't have to be sadistic, the destruction doesn't have to be so massive, and the suffering doesn't have to be so gut-wrenching.
MAN OF STEEL, like LOIS & CLARK, SUPERMAN RETURNS, BATMAN BEGINS and THE DARK KNIGHT RISES, to name only a few, are sick movies made by desensitized people who operate within the isolated ego-bubble of Hollywood studios (I've been there, so I know). I don't know who is worse, Zack Snyder or J.J. Abrams or Christopher Nolan, but I wish they had never spoiled these franchises, and I wish Warner Brothers had never got hold of D.C. Comics in the first place. I reject these movies absolutely. I wish an entirely different mind had taken them on and done an entirely different thing with them. While it is good that the superheroes are finally being taken seriously, the movies are so neurotic and arch they're going to date faster than the old chapter serials.
Hokey though they may have been, ATOM MAN VS SUPERMAN (1950) and the George Reeves series (1952-57) remain the best live-action Superman because they get the spirit right. They were good-natured, and one felt entertained and refreshed after watching them (as repeats in the 1960s, in my case). THE ANIMATED SERIES from 1996-1998 is without a doubt the truest and most fully realized Superman, at least in its first two seasons.
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